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John Estcourt February 12th, 2009 02:47 AM

Hi, Scott i'm connecting from the BNC output on the XH-A1 so i assume the signal is 576i
Yes the dvd picture is sharper, but I can still focus using the player which is great when im using the jib arm. Im not sure how much better the likes of the Ikans are but at 4 times the price they would have to be somthing special.

Scott Brickert February 14th, 2009 01:26 AM

OK, I'm finally getting the rig dialed in.

I agree, it's a great bang for the buck, and it'll do the job for composing and focus.

Thanks for posting about it.

John Estcourt February 14th, 2009 04:42 AM

Phew, glad your happy with it Scott. I would hate to think you bought one on my recommendation and didnt like it.
Im just in the process of making a sunscreen for it, once its finishedI will try to get round to posting a picture of it set up but the weather is just dire.
cheers john

William James Ryan February 25th, 2009 06:25 PM

Maybe I should have just posted this info here, but here's the thread re: the clamp mount I built for my Sony 820.



http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/sdtv-hdtv...steadicam.html

Peer Landa March 7th, 2009 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gints Klimanis (Post 887584)
The only decent one in clarity and contrast was the Insignia 10.2" although its color depth was low in that banding was easily seen in browns. It is obviously better than the Sony FX820 in hand.

Okay, since I've always trusted Gints (ever since his exclusive demo of the SGI pre-Indigo at our lab in 1991) I went ahead and got me an Insignia and hacked it into an external onboard monitor -- here's a silly video of my camera rig, including some other DIY hacks:
YouTube - My big rig camera... and my scalloped guitar... and my workout routine

-- peer

Martin Amada March 22nd, 2009 04:53 AM

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I bought a SONY FX870 after reading the first few posts in this thread, because I needed an inexpensive solution for use with my DIY cine-adaptor.

Here's a photo of the mount I had a machinist make for me. The uprights are aluminum and the cross bar is stainless steel. It's as light as I could make it. The slots in the uprights allow access to the video jack, the DC input and the on/off switch whether the monitor is inserted right side up or upside down.

The other rigs pictured including the rod support system and follow focus are custom builds.

Martin

Nicholas de Kock March 22nd, 2009 08:07 PM

Has anyone tried the LG DP391B?
LG DP391B - Portable DVD Player - With Photo Frame: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

Lee Stringer March 30th, 2009 04:20 AM

I just brought a LG DP281B today and first thoughts are great. It's an older model 2007ish and thus was on close out at S$199 (about US$120) but it has a 800x480 screen and looked better than some of the more expensive newer models. A quick test showed the normal lack of detail in a darks, but the picture is very clear and I could focus easy.
Now to the eternal problem off fixing it to the camera.

L

Martin Amada March 30th, 2009 06:16 PM

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Here's how I made the sun hood from 3/16" (4mm) acrylic. The two machine screws you can see sticking up from the back will allow for a much larger and super lightweight extension hood with side flaps to be attached.

Martin

Gints Klimanis March 30th, 2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee Stringer (Post 1035743)
I just brought a LG DP281B today and first thoughts are great. It's an older model 2007ish and thus was on close out at S$199 (about US$120) but it has a 800x480 screen and looked better than some of the more expensive newer models.
L

Check my list of 2008 models in which I tested 12 units running at the same time all showing the menu of the same DVD. There is a substantial variability in picture clarity among the models in the same price range. I would check out particular models in person and compare to others.

Graham Hickling March 30th, 2009 07:00 PM

Link for that list?

Gints Klimanis March 31st, 2009 12:52 PM

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/888896-post96.html

Correction. I only tested 8 players. I'll have to check out the Sony FX870, which seems to boast 12-bit , 108 MHz video DAC. Most of the softness of these players seems to come from their deinterlacing methods. The main problem with portable devices is that they compete more on battery life and price than on picture quality.

Ivan Snoeckx April 16th, 2009 01:22 PM

Two or three weeks ago I also bought a Sony DVP-FX870, because the tube of my PVM-9041 died and I needed a small field monitor immedeatly.

The carrying case that comes with the DVP-FX870 is worthless for viewing. So now I'm looking for a better one with a foldable hood that also can be used in bright sunlight.

I already sorted out 3 cases that I think would fit. Only the connections and swithes on the side of the LCD keep me from buying one of the cases below. Do you think it's possible to plug in a 90 degree plug in to the monitor when it's in one of these cases? The Sony DVP-FX870 measures: 225,4(W) x 33,5(D) x 164,9(H)mm or 8,86(W) x 1,3(D) x 6,45(H) in.

KATA LCM-9

Petrol PLCD-3

PortaBrace MO-LCD8.4

Anyone maybe using such a case for their Sony DVP-FX8xx, or another one then the Sony?
Any thoughts or other suggestions are very welcome.

John Peterson April 17th, 2009 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivan Snoeckx (Post 1100750)
Two or three weeks ago I also bought a Sony DVP-FX870, because the tube of my PVM-9041 died and I needed a small field monitor immedeatly.

The carrying case that comes with the DVP-FX870 is worthless for viewing. So now I'm looking for a better one with a foldable hood that also can be used in bright sunlight.

I already sorted out 3 cases that I think would fit. Only the connections and swithes on the side of the LCD keep me from buying one of the cases below. Do you think it's possible to plug in a 90 degree plug in to the monitor when it's in one of these cases? The Sony DVP-FX870 measures: 225,4(W) x 33,5(D) x 164,9(H)mm or 8,86(W) x 1,3(D) x 6,45(H) in.

KATA LCM-9

Petrol PLCD-3

PortaBrace MO-LCD8.4

Anyone maybe using such a case for their Sony DVP-FX8xx, or another one then the Sony?
Any thoughts or other suggestions are very welcome.

For my FX820 I picked up one of these on clearance at Target for $12. It works very well with just enough room in it for the unit and some extras.

Case Logic 7-9 In-Car DVD Player Case > Automotive Organization > Case Logic

John

Ivan Snoeckx June 27th, 2009 05:34 AM

Last thursday I had the PortaBrace MO-LCD8.4 delivered. I have choosen this case because the measures come as closest to the ones of the Sony DVD-player.

The case comes without instructions, so it was a little bit of a hassle to figure it all out. First impression is the stand is a very weak thing. This weekend I'm going to use it on a shoot.

Ivan Snoeckx June 28th, 2009 08:59 AM

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After the shoot I took some pictures of the PortaBrace MO-LCD8.4 monitor case.

The monitor case from PortaBrace is not custom made for the Sony DVP-FX870 portable DVD-player, but it all fits very well. It comes with a carrying belt and a black rain cover that sits in the front pouch and can be deployed around the back of the case (oeps, forgot to take a picture of it). User instructions are not included so it took me a while to figure it all out.

I've made a short cable with a 90 degree connector that can be connected to the side of the DVP-FX870 permanently.

Setup is really quick and viewing is now much better with the foldable hood. Only the stand bothers me. The angle cannot be changed and I find it very week.

Paul Tauger June 28th, 2009 10:35 AM

Buy.com has these for $161.18 out the door:

Sony DVPFX820 Portable DVD Player - DVPFX820/W - Buy.com

I assume these (or something similar) are more or less a necessity for using a Depth of Field adapter?

And can I assume that, when open, they fold flat?

Adam Gold June 28th, 2009 01:15 PM

Just noticed that B&H seems to have a newer, larger version for only a little more:

Sony | DVP-FX930 Portable DVD Player (Black) | DVPFX930 | B&H

Paul Tauger June 28th, 2009 01:18 PM

I found a factory refurb with Sony warranty on eBay for $114. I've also ordered this, which seems like a potentially simple (and cheap) mounting solution:

UltraClamp Aluminum Support | B&H Photo Video

John Peterson June 30th, 2009 05:19 AM

After using the FX820 for awhile with my Sony PMW-EX1 I noticed that the image isn't that great using the composite out on the camera so I switched to the Green connector on the component output from the camera and it is much sharper even though the image is black and white. Much better for focusing which is all the monitor is good for anyway.

Also, check the Sony Store if there is one near you. The one in Woodbury Commons in New York near me is where I bought mine new. They had them on clearance a few months ago for a little over $100.

John

John Peterson June 30th, 2009 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Tauger (Post 1164528)
I found a factory refurb with Sony warranty on eBay for $114. I've also ordered this, which seems like a potentially simple (and cheap) mounting solution:

UltraClamp Aluminum Support | B&H Photo Video

Let us know how it works out. One reviewer there said the clamp fell off the first time he used it. I don't know if what he used was even as heavy as this monitor.

John

Marty Hudzik June 30th, 2009 08:53 AM

That is a high def signal coming out of the EX1, right? The Sony will show that in B&W? I have got to try this with my H1 immediately. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Peterson (Post 1165160)
After using the FX820 for awhile with my Sony PMW-EX1 I noticed that the image isn't that great using the composite out on the camera so I switched to the Green connector on the component output from the camera and it is much sharper even though the image is black and white. Much better for focusing which is all the monitor is good for anyway.

Also, check the Sony Store if there is one near you. The one in Woodbury Commons in New York near me is where I bought mine new. They had them on clearance a few months ago for a little over $100.

John


Michael Thames August 14th, 2009 10:04 PM

I just bought the Sony DVD monitor. Thanks for all the info. I do have a question. I don't know anything about how to hook up my XH-A1 to this thing, I don't know the names of all these wires and such.

Can I just walk into Radio Shack and show them my A1 and the DVD player and get fixed up?

Can someone tell me exactly what I need to get to hook this up, in simple to understand language?

Thanks!
Michael

Marcus Martell August 15th, 2009 05:47 PM

Anybody in Europe using theese monitors?

Adam Gold August 16th, 2009 11:42 AM

For USA users, refurbed FX820s are available at the Sony Online Outlet for $120 (and free shipping) with Sony Warranty. As we don't even need the DVD player functions, this seems like a low enough price to experiment with a few -- if they don't work as external monitors, we can throw them in the car for the kids.

https://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...52921665368413

Next step: Target or Walmart to find those kits to mount to rear of a car seat mentioned earlier in this thread. Those and a few zip ties should secure to tripod legs or top of arms (I have two-handled rigs).

Are the Manhattans or SmallHDs better? Undoubtedly, but at four times the price or more I'm going to check these out first. I really like the idea of using the green component feed for a sharper B&W picture.

Jim Snow August 17th, 2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gints Klimanis (Post 882229)
Adobe OnLocation (I think this used to be DVRack) is looking more interesting.

The problem with OnLocation is that there is a delay before you see it on screen which makes it useless as a shooting monitor where you need to view the display in real time in order to control your camera. If you read Adobe's description of it, you will notice they make no claims about using it as a shooting monitor.

Marcus Martell August 18th, 2009 06:45 AM

This?

PHILIPS DCP852/37X Portable 8.5"

anybody?

Ivan Snoeckx August 18th, 2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Martell (Post 1227252)
Anybody in Europe using theese monitors?

ˇHola Marcus!

I'm from Europe and use the Sony DVP-FX870. Somewhere on one of the previous pages of this thread you can find some pictures of my LCD display in Portabrace case.

Annie Haycock August 18th, 2009 04:18 PM

I've been using a phillips DVD player (not sure which model) and it works fine. The picture isn't brilliant, but a lot better than the small LCD screen for focussing.

John Estcourt August 19th, 2009 02:10 PM

Hi Annie, yes Ive got one of the phillips 11 inch DVD players and I use it on my camera crane, its okay especially with my home made sun hood around the screen.
Its not HD but focusing is possible and I got it at a bargain price so its better than the LCD on the Canon.
cheers john

Marcus Martell August 20th, 2009 07:33 AM

Hi, how much did pay it Ivan?Where?

Thx a lot my friend, i can't find it with a reasonable price(not less thas 290euros)!

Ivan Snoeckx August 22nd, 2009 08:07 AM

Hola Marcus,

You can order the Sony DVP-FX870 online by Pixmania in Spain for 215 Euros.

Pixmania: Sony DVP-FX870

Hope this helps!

Marcus Martell August 23rd, 2009 02:18 AM

Thank a lot my friend!How should i attach it to my z1?

thx

Marcus Martell September 20th, 2009 03:11 AM

Did anybody try the sony DVP FX730?

thx

Marcus Martell September 20th, 2009 06:39 AM

Hi, i found the fx870 for229 euros;
the fx 850 for 219 euros and the dvpfx930b for 259.Which should i buy?

Bill Busby September 20th, 2009 07:40 AM

Marcus, if you're going to go this route instead of the SmallHD monitor, get one of the Sony's that has the 800x480 rez. All of the Sony dvd players look similar in appearance, but have different rez specs.

Marcus Martell September 20th, 2009 10:25 AM

i need em for wednsday, is there a lot of diffrence between the fx850 and the fx870?

thx

Where can i buy in EU the lil Item where i can attach it @the camcorder?

Kevin Walsh September 24th, 2009 10:47 PM

Has anyone tried this? AUVIO™ 7" High-Resolution Portable Digital TV - RadioShack.com

Robert Rogoz November 2nd, 2009 11:59 PM

I wonder about this player: 1 PC 9 Inch LCD Screen Portable DVD Player + TV - DVD-T8400
The specs call for 800x600 screen resolution

Gerald Webb November 21st, 2009 02:35 AM

hi guys, quick question.
If I got the sony dvp fx930 from the U.S. (im in Australia) it will be ntsc, the GY HM100 im using is PAL. Will that be an issue for using it as a monitor, or is it just for DVD playing compatibility?
thanks for any info.


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