JVC vs Sony NTSC monitors at DVinfo.net

Rich Rosen · August 4th, 2002, 02:51 PM

I've always thought that JVC was more bang for the buck than Sony. There seems to be a $200 difference for the same features. Any reason NOT to go JVC? I have the money for either but could use the saved money for other stuff. Thanks.

Chris Hurd · August 4th, 2002, 03:24 PM

I've always appreciated the switchable 16:9 feature of the Sony PVM-14M2U and similar monitors. Does the JVC equivalent offer 16:9 as well?

Rich Rosen · August 4th, 2002, 04:03 PM

Here are some specs of a JVC. Seems it has what you say is necessary for $875.

The BM-H1310SU broadcast color production monitor is designed for studio reference or critical viewing applications. Features a spectacular 750 lines of horizontal resolution, SMPTE-C phosphers and switchable 4:3/16:9 aspect ratios. Features an advanced CPU with memory for instant parameter setting recall.

A Blue Check mode is built-in to allow chroma/phase adjustments to be made easily and quickly.

• Underscan allows the entire active picture area to be displayed. This allows the operator to view and check the pictures edges.
The Pulse Cross feature displays the blanking area and sync/burst signal by displaying the horizontal and vertical intervals.

Chris Hurd · August 4th, 2002, 04:08 PM

I'm looking over the specs for this JVC monitor in a B&H catalog and it appears that it's PAL / NTSC switchable as well, which can be a significant assett for some folks. My own initial feeling is for the Sony, if not for its reputation alone, as I'm in the market for a pro monitor myself. Based on the specs and price of this JVC model, though, I can't see any reason not to go for it.

Rich Rosen · August 4th, 2002, 04:13 PM

a reply on another forum says they are very good. as i said in my origianl post...i've always felt sony's were overpriced and if there was another monitor that was just as good, savings would be realized. To me this looks like it. I think I'll get it on Tuesday at B&H.

Barry Goyette · August 4th, 2002, 06:02 PM

Here's a question that I've had since the first time I looked at an older xl1 on an 800 line sony monitor at B&H photo. The footage looked dreadfully fuzzy (especially compared to the $16000 sony dvcam sitting next to it.) But for those of us using Mini DV Canon cameras, is there any need to go to a 750 line monitor? (Especially if it makes us insecure about our image quality.) Or will a standard 500 line monitor do just as well.

Any thoughts?

Jeff Donald · August 4th, 2002, 08:56 PM

Monitors are one of the things that specs don't tell the entire story. A monitor's image has to look right. It has to look right to you, to the editor, but most importantly the client. Its tough to explain specs to a client. The client expects the image to look a certain way. For most clients, editors etc. the Sony phosphors, the Sony image, is what looks right. JVC monitors have great specs and so do the Panasonics. So, what am I saying? If your the only one who will look at the monitor, pick the monitor that looks best to you. But if there is a chance your clients will view the image, get the Sony.

Jeff

Robert Poulton · April 30th, 2003, 07:06 PM

I was just looking at the specs for BM-H1310SU and on JVC's home website it said it was using p-22 phosphors not SMPTE-C as stated on BHphoto's website. I'm just confused any reason why they would get it wrong and who is right?

Rob:D

Jeff Donald · April 30th, 2003, 09:09 PM

I suspect B & H is wrong. The price seems way too cheap for SMPTE-C phosphors, but just a guess.

Robert Poulton · May 1st, 2003, 01:59 AM

Lol. Yah I would think so. Since when would JVC post something wrong about a product. So what is the lowest price I can expect to pay for a SMPTE-C monitor?

Rob:D

August 4th, 2002, 02:51 PM	#1
Rich Rosen New Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 23	JVC vs Sony NTSC monitors I've always thought that JVC was more bang for the buck than Sony. There seems to be a $200 difference for the same features. Any reason NOT to go JVC? I have the money for either but could use the saved money for other stuff. Thanks.

August 4th, 2002, 03:24 PM	#2
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	I've always appreciated the switchable 16:9 feature of the Sony PVM-14M2U and similar monitors. Does the JVC equivalent offer 16:9 as well? __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

August 4th, 2002, 04:08 PM	#4
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	I'm looking over the specs for this JVC monitor in a B&H catalog and it appears that it's PAL / NTSC switchable as well, which can be a significant assett for some folks. My own initial feeling is for the Sony, if not for its reputation alone, as I'm in the market for a pro monitor myself. Based on the specs and price of this JVC model, though, I can't see any reason not to go for it. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 30th, 2003, 07:06 PM	#8
Robert Poulton Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 245	BM-H1310SU is p-22? I was just looking at the specs for BM-H1310SU and on JVC's home website it said it was using p-22 phosphors not SMPTE-C as stated on BHphoto's website. I'm just confused any reason why they would get it wrong and who is right? Rob:D

April 30th, 2003, 09:09 PM	#9
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I suspect B & H is wrong. The price seems way too cheap for SMPTE-C phosphors, but just a guess. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

August 4th, 2002, 04:03 PM	#3
Rich Rosen New Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 23	Here are some specs of a JVC. Seems it has what you say is necessary for $875. The BM-H1310SU broadcast color production monitor is designed for studio reference or critical viewing applications. Features a spectacular 750 lines of horizontal resolution, SMPTE-C phosphers and switchable 4:3/16:9 aspect ratios. Features an advanced CPU with memory for instant parameter setting recall. A Blue Check mode is built-in to allow chroma/phase adjustments to be made easily and quickly. • Underscan allows the entire active picture area to be displayed. This allows the operator to view and check the pictures edges. The Pulse Cross feature displays the blanking area and sync/burst signal by displaying the horizontal and vertical intervals.

August 4th, 2002, 04:13 PM	#5
Rich Rosen New Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 23	a reply on another forum says they are very good. as i said in my origianl post...i've always felt sony's were overpriced and if there was another monitor that was just as good, savings would be realized. To me this looks like it. I think I'll get it on Tuesday at B&H.

August 4th, 2002, 06:02 PM	#6
Barry Goyette Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo CA Posts: 1,195	Here's a question that I've had since the first time I looked at an older xl1 on an 800 line sony monitor at B&H photo. The footage looked dreadfully fuzzy (especially compared to the $16000 sony dvcam sitting next to it.) But for those of us using Mini DV Canon cameras, is there any need to go to a 750 line monitor? (Especially if it makes us insecure about our image quality.) Or will a standard 500 line monitor do just as well. Any thoughts?

August 4th, 2002, 08:56 PM	#7
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	Monitors are one of the things that specs don't tell the entire story. A monitor's image has to look right. It has to look right to you, to the editor, but most importantly the client. Its tough to explain specs to a client. The client expects the image to look a certain way. For most clients, editors etc. the Sony phosphors, the Sony image, is what looks right. JVC monitors have great specs and so do the Panasonics. So, what am I saying? If your the only one who will look at the monitor, pick the monitor that looks best to you. But if there is a chance your clients will view the image, get the Sony. Jeff

May 1st, 2003, 01:59 AM	#10
Robert Poulton Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 245	Lol. Yah I would think so. Since when would JVC post something wrong about a product. So what is the lowest price I can expect to pay for a SMPTE-C monitor? Rob:D