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I really love this trailer, but something missing.. · May 6th, 2009, 09:53 AM

Hi guys,

I just finished a trailer.. or maybe highlight is more appropriate word for it.

Sina & lanh Cinematic Wedding Trailer on Vimeo

I love this trailer so much maybe because its so different than the other trailers that I have cut, but i still think something is missing.. especially on the ending part. i think the cuts maybe too fast, but i liked it that way too. so confusing.

Please let me know if there is any boring bit, especially the ending part or if theres any that can be improved.

thanks,

Santo

Stephen J. Williams · May 6th, 2009, 11:14 AM

santo,

another great piece... The audio at the beginning is a little abrupt in my opinion. Why not carry some of it over to the clip before like you did in the other parts of your video?

Also, tons of great steady-cam footage in there, but maybe a tad to much.

I loved the shot underneath the tree with the leaves falling. Was someone above the camera making the action happen. Or did you just get lucky and happen to catch the wind at the right time?
Also, I really liked the use of the ambient audio. I've been trying to add this more into my videos as well...
The ending looked great to me... I thought it was the perfect place to close out a great video.

Huge fan of your work,
steve

Susanto Widjaja · May 6th, 2009, 10:39 PM

Thanks Steve, appreciate it.

The leaves falling was "man-made" we had two guys bumping the tree there :P

ambient audio just adds to the cinematic feel i think.

I will try to not put every steadicam footage in the future trailers! that is correct!

Thanks again,

Santo

Dean Morris · May 7th, 2009, 06:46 AM

Santo,

I possibly would have to agree about the amount of gliding shots - it seemed like there were too many, sometimes of the same/similiar scene. The dilmea can be that it gives the appearance of being 'over done'.

I too also loved the natural audio and missed it as the piece went on. Perhaps more audio could've been included in the later part as it's a longer song. An option may be to cut the song which would then give you the opportunity to scene select more and choose the best gliding shots to entwine with the more static shots.

Susanto Widjaja · May 11th, 2009, 06:51 AM

Thanks for your input Dean :)

Douglas Thigpen · May 11th, 2009, 08:44 AM

Great video. I agree about the audio though, first thing I noticed. I would fade the levels in and out of existence.

Susanto Widjaja · May 14th, 2009, 09:01 AM

Thanks Douglas.

Summary of the feedbacks so far would be to loose some of the glides and add more audio eh?

cool cool... really make sense a lot.

Thanks again guys!

any more feedback welcome :)]

Santo

Anthony Vu · May 14th, 2009, 11:21 AM

love the framing at 0:08 of the OTS bride shot.

I totally dig the shot at 1:16

I actually don't mind too much steadicam shot as long as it's edited well. I do think some shots weren't as steady as they could have been.

I'm not big on getting the other videographer in the shot. For some reason it "feels" ok for photographers to be in the videos, but not videographers. But that's just me.

Overall a very nice job. Love to see more in the future. :)

Anthony

Simon Denny · May 14th, 2009, 11:17 PM

Hey Susanto,
I was watching your footage and thought I know this place.
Earlier this year I also shot a wedding at the Chinese gardens.

Cheers
Simon

Tim Kay · June 22nd, 2009, 02:44 AM

Just watched the video, well almost 4 mins of it, didn't make it to the end.

I really liked what you did here. I can tell that you're a creative shooter. And you really hustled for shots. I do have some pointers to think about and apply what you wish.

First - A teaser should be kept under 2 mins, 1 is ideal. It felt a lot of the same themes/shots were repeated and losing focus.

Great use of getting happy faces. You really brought us in with there lovely smiles.

Gonna go on a limb here and say it wasn't the over use of the stedicam but it was the almost constant rotation that may leave some of your users with motion sickness! Cut 1/2 of them - IE, the shots where you got them from the side. Inter cut them with static shots, rack focuses to separate the mood of the video. My favorite shot was the shallow depth of field Cake shot. Static and Simple

Lastly, your coloring/b&w felt unmotivated. I was trying to buy it but kept asking why we're in sepia/b&w/color at random times. Create a pattern, it's a lot more effective as a cinema device. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

You have a lot of great footage there - your client will be happy and these edits will only make it stronger!

May 6th, 2009, 10:39 PM	#3
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	Thanks Steve, appreciate it. The leaves falling was "man-made" we had two guys bumping the tree there :P ambient audio just adds to the cinematic feel i think. I will try to not put every steadicam footage in the future trailers! that is correct! Thanks again, Santo __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

May 11th, 2009, 06:51 AM	#5
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	Thanks for your input Dean :) __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

May 11th, 2009, 08:44 AM	#6
Douglas Thigpen Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego, CA / Apex, NC Posts: 81	Great video. I agree about the audio though, first thing I noticed. I would fade the levels in and out of existence. __________________ Douglas Thigpen http://www.dthigpen.com/ - http://www.nicetryproductions.com/

May 14th, 2009, 09:01 AM	#7
Susanto Widjaja Major Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 622	Thanks Douglas. Summary of the feedbacks so far would be to loose some of the glides and add more audio eh? cool cool... really make sense a lot. Thanks again guys! any more feedback welcome :)] Santo __________________ If a picture is worth a thousand words, what about motion picture? website: www.papercranes.com.au \| blog: www.weddingvideosydney.net

May 14th, 2009, 11:17 PM	#9
Simon Denny Trustee Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 1,409	Hey Susanto, I was watching your footage and thought I know this place. Earlier this year I also shot a wedding at the Chinese gardens. Cheers Simon Last edited by Simon Denny; May 15th, 2009 at 12:26 AM.

May 6th, 2009, 11:14 AM	#2
Stephen J. Williams Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 768	santo, another great piece... The audio at the beginning is a little abrupt in my opinion. Why not carry some of it over to the clip before like you did in the other parts of your video? Also, tons of great steady-cam footage in there, but maybe a tad to much. I loved the shot underneath the tree with the leaves falling. Was someone above the camera making the action happen. Or did you just get lucky and happen to catch the wind at the right time? Also, I really liked the use of the ambient audio. I've been trying to add this more into my videos as well... The ending looked great to me... I thought it was the perfect place to close out a great video. Huge fan of your work, steve

May 7th, 2009, 06:46 AM	#4
Dean Morris Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 41	Santo, I possibly would have to agree about the amount of gliding shots - it seemed like there were too many, sometimes of the same/similiar scene. The dilmea can be that it gives the appearance of being 'over done'. I too also loved the natural audio and missed it as the piece went on. Perhaps more audio could've been included in the later part as it's a longer song. An option may be to cut the song which would then give you the opportunity to scene select more and choose the best gliding shots to entwine with the more static shots.

May 14th, 2009, 11:21 AM	#8
Anthony Vu Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 41	love the framing at 0:08 of the OTS bride shot. I totally dig the shot at 1:16 I actually don't mind too much steadicam shot as long as it's edited well. I do think some shots weren't as steady as they could have been. I'm not big on getting the other videographer in the shot. For some reason it "feels" ok for photographers to be in the videos, but not videographers. But that's just me. Overall a very nice job. Love to see more in the future. :) Anthony

June 22nd, 2009, 02:44 AM	#10
Tim Kay Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF & LA Posts: 195	Just watched the video, well almost 4 mins of it, didn't make it to the end. I really liked what you did here. I can tell that you're a creative shooter. And you really hustled for shots. I do have some pointers to think about and apply what you wish. First - A teaser should be kept under 2 mins, 1 is ideal. It felt a lot of the same themes/shots were repeated and losing focus. Great use of getting happy faces. You really brought us in with there lovely smiles. Gonna go on a limb here and say it wasn't the over use of the stedicam but it was the almost constant rotation that may leave some of your users with motion sickness! Cut 1/2 of them - IE, the shots where you got them from the side. Inter cut them with static shots, rack focuses to separate the mood of the video. My favorite shot was the shallow depth of field Cake shot. Static and Simple Lastly, your coloring/b&w felt unmotivated. I was trying to buy it but kept asking why we're in sepia/b&w/color at random times. Create a pattern, it's a lot more effective as a cinema device. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. You have a lot of great footage there - your client will be happy and these edits will only make it stronger! __________________ Event Production Services \| Video Production San Francisco

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