Giving a "cinema" look for wedding: at DVinfo.net
DV Info Net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Wedding / Event Videography Techniques

Wedding / Event Videography Techniques
Shooting non-repeatable events: weddings, recitals, plays, performances...

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old May 30th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Brazil
Posts: 57
Giving a "cinema" look for wedding:

Hello guys.

I would like to know if there is anywhere I can find material for study about giving a cinema, or film look into wedding video.
I not talking about "that" film look (24p, 35mm, etc..) I talking about editing, framing, camera techniques, angles, etc...

Is there any kind of information on web that fits my requests??

Do you know any?

Thank you so much!
__________________
wedding videography
Fellipe de Paula is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 31st, 2008, 12:37 AM   #2
Trustee
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 1,997
What kind of film?

There are lots of directors and they all make different kind of movies. Woody Allen compared to George Lucas compared to Peter Jackson. Pretty different stuff.
Jason Robinson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 31st, 2008, 06:35 AM   #3
Major Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Yeppoon, Queensland
Posts: 332
I personally learn from movies. Study films that have excellent cinematography and editing. There is tons of films out there so no point listing them but sit down pick a film you like and work out how the shots flow together. Still the best way is to go out there and shoot, pick a scene from a film and see if you can replicate it. Its amazing how quickly you learn things.
Peter Szilveszter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old May 31st, 2008, 07:34 AM   #4
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hermon Maine USA
Posts: 138
There is a lot of discussion concerning this all over this board, but one aspect rarely mentioned is (or at least not mentioned enough) is depth of field.
Shooting in 24p or adding film effects in post is great, but I think the most noticable and practical tehnique for a film look is using a shallow depth of field.
I learned this by simply watching movies, and was reinforced after reading articles on why film guys hated using digital video. The main beef was not resolution, but how the lenses worked with the camera. They simply could not get the same depth of field they were used to with thier 35mm rigs.(sorry to over-simplify a complicated issue, but I'm not smart enough to get into all the details).

So, my vote is watching movies as well. I always try to picture where the cameraman is standing in every scene.
Mark Ganglfinger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 2nd, 2008, 01:48 AM   #5
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Singapore
Posts: 163
We shall not discuss 24p and 35mm since they are already heavily discussed in other threads. I personally think watching more movies and try to focus on the technical aspects helps you in framing your subjects. Another neglected aspects when it comes to wedding is lighting. It is the lighting which give your scene a dynamic cinematic feel. Watching more MTV helps too when it comes to editing wedding highlights.
With interesting framing + good lightings + 24p + 35mm + color grading, I think most wedding video are able to achieve the cinematic feel.
Kenny Shem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 2nd, 2008, 09:11 AM   #6
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Montéal, Canada
Posts: 115
I would agree with Kenny,

A HUGE part of filmaking is focused on lighting and good lighting. Most of the time lighting determines how armature your shots will look like, positioning a window close by, proper exposure and an correct white balance, all these elements factor in the look one would achieve in order to get the Hollywood style and look some of us try to obtain.
Carl Wilky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old June 7th, 2008, 11:30 PM   #7
New Boot
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Panama City, FL
Posts: 8
perspective! when in nyc, my girlfriend and i were in times square at 3am or so and a guy that looked just like spike lee was shooting video on top of a 6' a-frame ladder.
me: "omg thats spike lee!"
gf: "noooooo!"
me: "yea it is. shooting video at 3am on the top of a aluminum a-frame ladder is totally something i could see spike lee doing"
gf: "omg. i think you're right!"
so after working up enough courage to approach a working spike lee, we were sadly disappointed to find out it wasn't him. turns out the guy was with the company that produces hell's kitchen. he was testing perspectives ahead of time so that they would have a solid plan of attack for camera placement. depth of field and background for each shot could be assesed before the show and they could pick the angles that gave them the best results. he even used my girlfriend and i for a few minutes as human stand-ins for the contestants to just depth of field and angles. no spike lee, but a cool guy nontheless and had plenty of knowledge and expertise to share with total strangers harassing him at work.

like stated above, study movies and productions that have the look and feel that you are going for and then ask yourself, how did the DP accomplish this shot? take your theories and test them ahead of time on your friends and family and then apply the techniques you used that gave you the results you like to your production. if you can visit the venue prior to the event, do so with your camera and a stand in and try different perspectives. study, replicate, practice and preparation are key components in acquiring footage like the big boys.

dolly's, cranes & jibs are a lil' extreme for your average wedding production. a steady stick, glidecam &/or a harness rig however are not. with practice, you can replicate a lot of the same smoooooth movements and transitions of perspectives that large productions use to set themselves apart from the average video product, but at a small fraction of the price.

in my opinion, combining these aspects with the right "film look" technics such as filters & plugins in post, 24p, etc. will give you that closer to movie feel. hope my thoughts help! cheers!
-john c.
John Crusan is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY USA

Scan Computers Int. Ltd.
+44 0871-472-4747
Bolton, Lancashire UK


DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Special Interest Areas > Wedding / Event Videography Techniques

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:11 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2024 The Digital Video Information Network