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Joe Simon November 2nd, 2008 09:37 AM

Wedding Trailer
 
Here is a trailer that I finished last week -

Joe Simon Productions- Cinematic HD & Vintage Super 8 Wedding Films for the Stylish Bride.: Keely & Kyle HD Wedding Trailer

I'm really excited about the way it came out and the look we achieved with everything. It was shot with the XHA1, time-lapses were done with the HVX-200. We also used the Brevis 35 adaptor and a Kessler 8 ft. crane.

Thanks for checking it out.

Stelios Christofides November 2nd, 2008 10:01 AM

Joe
I really enjoyed your wedding clip, if only it was a bit longer, otherwise perfect!

Stelios

Stephen J. Williams November 2nd, 2008 10:05 AM

Joe, great clip... I like the use of your crane... I've bought a 4ft jib a few months ago but have been afraid to break it out at a wedding. Did anyone give you any strange looks as if it might be "overkill"?
Anyways, great clip once again.
Steve

Joel Peregrine November 2nd, 2008 10:14 AM

Hi Joe,

Really slick. It felt a bit sterile to me, as if the setting, inanimate objects and techniques are taking center stage rather than the people, but I probably lean too far in the other direction and don't get enough of the surroundings and details that you excel at.

Joe Simon November 2nd, 2008 11:17 AM

Thanks guys. I always limit my trailers to 1 min, it's just a glimpse of the wedding.

Stephen - We normally use the crane early in the pre-ceremony before the guests arrive and for the reception before the guest are let into the hall. We do have it set up for dancing, and the guest always think it's awesome.

Joel - The trailers I do focus more on the day as a whole then interactions with the couple. I try to show some detail shots as well as shots of the couple. But yes, It's not focussed entirely on them. I like to really open up the story with the pre-ceremony and let it unfold through the entire edit.

Eric Chan November 2nd, 2008 12:46 PM

Hi Joe,

Very nice clip... I assume you filmed it using the A1s. Did you use any custom preset. Did you apply a lot of color corrections to the final clips? I really like the color and would appreciate if you could share some hints of how to achieve them.

Thanks,
Eric

Art Varga November 2nd, 2008 02:28 PM

Joe - nice work! I love the crane shots. I know how much work goes into the setup. I've had my jib about a year but only been able to use it once at a wedding- too much going on. Do you shoot solo? Also the closing clip looked like you were using a Glidetrack or something.

Art

Kevin Shahinian November 2nd, 2008 02:47 PM

This is really great work. I'm glad you included some dialogue; really adds to the emotion.

Noa Put November 2nd, 2008 03:44 PM

It allways amazes me how much effort you guys put in your productions, it's like a real movie production, I was just waiting for someone to shout "cut!" :)
You got a good eye for detail and great shots, with how many are you that day? I mean, 35mm adapter, crane, glidecam and I thought I saw some glidetrack action? That must be quite some preperation and set up for an event that's not controlled.

I relay liked the color, willing to share the preset? Or has it been done in post?

Bruce Patterson November 2nd, 2008 04:14 PM

LOVE IT - great job! Loved that you were able to incorporate some jib shots - it added a great angle (pun intended) to the piece!

Travis Cossel November 2nd, 2008 04:38 PM

That was great! Perfect length, great shots, great grading. To me the only weak spot was the titling at the very end. I think a drop shadow might have helped. It was a bit hard to read.

I have to ask how you handle the jib. Do you use it yourself or pay someone else to do it? I shoot with myself and a 2nd shooter, but my 2nd shooter's never have the type of experience and skills to use something like a crane or a steadicam. Also, is the crane an add-on or something you just always bring?

Joe Simon November 3rd, 2008 09:43 AM

Thanks for the comments guys.

The color-correction on this trailer was done with Magic Bullet Looks. It's a great program for post work. My settings on the A1 are pretty flat I just crush the blacks to -2 and thats it. I really like to keep my footage flat so I have as much play as possible in post. The CC takes some time to do but I really love the look you can give the footage, it's really a night and day difference.

At the weddings where we use the crane and adaper( It comes with our second level package and is also an add-on) I have a 3 person crew including myself. I shoot with both the Brevis and the Glidecam, while my second shooter and assistant will get the crane shots early before the guests arrive. The crane is really simple to use, it's moving it around that takes the extra help. The Kessler crane is nice because it mounts to your tripod head, simple. The hard part is training your second shooter to get the right kind of shots! I've been lucky to have a guys that learn pretty quick!

After the crane shots I have the assistant follow me around and we trade cameras back and forth, one set up with the GlideCam and one with the Brevis. It works great so I can get the shot I need and not have to run back for a different camera setup.

There is a lot of setup and prep. work for days like this but I love the end result! We arrive at the venue 4 hours before the ceremony to get all of the shots we need. It's a lot of equipment to unload and set up but once you get a system going it's like clockwork.

The last shot was actually just a tripod pan, I don't have a Glidetrack(yet!) but they look awesome!

Thanks again for checking it out.

Joe

Ethan Cooper November 3rd, 2008 11:55 AM

Bravo Sir!

Very nicely done indeed.

Travis Cossel November 3rd, 2008 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Simon (Post 959034)
There is a lot of setup and prep. work for days like this but I love the end result! We arrive at the venue 4 hours before the ceremony to get all of the shots we need. It's a lot of equipment to unload and set up but once you get a system going it's like clockwork.

So are you covering bridal and groom preps? I'm curious because there's no way I could ever show up 4 hours before the ceremony. I usually start filming preps around 8 or 9 in the morning, then that transitions into the photoshoot time, and usually I get about 30 minutes to set up for the ceremony.

Carl Wilky November 3rd, 2008 04:42 PM

Joe, Joe, Joe!!! i really like your video. You did a great job of incorporating the emotion, the movements with the style of music and the couple. And the colour grading wasn't over the top.

My favorite parts were the crane shot you did in front of the stair case, very elegant. I don't know what type of lighting you had in the brides room but was it ever nice and soft, made it look very movie like. And lastly the tilt and zoom shot you pulled in the groom's room was top notch, I don't know why but it just makes the whole shot in this scene.

So that being said, i do have a few questions i hope you wont mind answering for me.

1) What type of microphone did you use in the bride's room, cause it was crystal clear. ( I'm assuming a good shotgun mic)
2) The shot in the groom's room, did you simply do it with a fluid tripod head or did you use a steady cam type of rig?
3) Which Magic Bullet preset did you use throughout this trailer?

Job well done and i must say that this clip falls into one of my all time favorite, Congrats Joe.

Patrick Moreau November 3rd, 2008 07:28 PM

Great imagery Joe. The story seemed a little disconnected overall, which is even more of a shame with such strong visuals. I think a mild VO in there could have started to tie it together but I can understand if you are going for a simpler approach with a trailer.

P.

SiuChung Leung November 3rd, 2008 08:00 PM

What a 'WOW' video and I can learn a lot from that!!! It is happy to see anyone who put such a effort into a wedding. Wedding Video like this will encourage more couple to choose Wedding Video service, also encourage other wedding videographer go one step further. It great to see a wedding video at this level. Thank you very much!

Joe Simon November 4th, 2008 09:27 AM

Travis - We're lucky that most of the weddings we shoot take place at one location. We can get there early before the B&G arrives. We then do bridal preps on location. We do get some church weddings but with those I work with the B&G where they are doing the preps and send the rest of my team to get the shots needed at the church location. I do understand when you have multiple locations it makes it a lot harder to work with this setup. Especially hard when you are working with Catholic churches that do 3 or so ceremonies in one day!

Carl- Thanks for the comments. The brides room footage was all natural light. There is a big window that lets in just the right amount of lighting contrast. Also a lot of the look in those shots is from the 35 adaptor and the CC work we did.

We use the Audio-Technica - 4073A shotgun mic. I love it, it gets amazing sound.
The shot in the grooms room was done handheld, it was the perfect moment to get a natural reaction. A bit of luck and a bit of anticipating the moment.
I created my own Magic Bullet present for this piece. Throughout the edit I changed the settings constantly. I spent a few hours just on CC tweaking each clip.

Patrick - Thanks for the comments. Your a great inspiration, and your work is amazing! I hope to reach the level of art you guys create someday!

Can you explain a little more about how the story seems disconnected? Your the second person to mention this so I'd love to hear any other insight that could help. I didn't think about adding in a VO and I can see how that could add emotion. Maybe something from the ceremony? When I'm working on these trailers I really focus on beautiful shots to tell the story. Thanks!

Anthony Sellitti November 10th, 2008 06:38 PM

Absolutely beautiful. I think it's perfect.

What music is that in there Joe? It's great!

Art Varga November 14th, 2008 01:43 PM

Joe - curious what do you use for a monitor on your crane? I can set up and breakdown my Skycrane pretty fast but setting up the monitor takes some time.

Art

Tim Kay November 17th, 2008 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Simon (Post 959411)
Travis - We're lucky that most of the weddings we shoot take place at one location. We can get there early before the B&G arrives. We then do bridal preps on location. We do get some church weddings but with those I work with the B&G where they are doing te use the Audio-Technica - 4073A shotgun mic. I love it, it gets amazing sound.
The shot in the grooms room was done handheld, it was the perfect moment to get a natural reaction. A bit of luck and a bit of anticipating the moment.
I created my own Magic Bullet present for this piece. Throughout the edit I changed the settings constantly. I spent a few hours just on CC tweaking each clip.

Patrick - Thanks for the comments. Your a great inspiration, and your work is amazing! I hope to reach the level of art you guys create someday!

Can you explain a little more about how the story seems disconnected? Your the second person to mention this so I'd love to hear any other insight that could help. I didn't think about adding in a VO and I can see how that could add emotion. Maybe something from the ceremony? When I'm working on these trailers I really focus on beautiful shots to tell the story. Thanks!


I'd like to throw my compliments out there as well for a job Well Done.

May we inquire to what a quote for a job this size is ?

Joe Simon November 18th, 2008 10:24 PM

Art - I don't use a monitor on the crane. We are using the XHA1's and just tilt the onboard LCD so we can see what we are framing. At weddings everything goes by so quick we don't have time to set up a monitoring system.

Andy - Thanks for the kind words. The weddings we do that have both the crane and 35 adaptor start at $4500.

Art Varga November 21st, 2008 11:09 AM

Joe - thats what I was hoping to hear regarding the crane. I'll have to practice the point and shoot method - and get a better pair of glasses to see the A1 LCD from 6 feet away:)

Thanks - Art


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