DSLR's for wedding video?
 

Now that they have been around a while wondering how they are working out for weddings.
I use them, but as a B and C cam to the EX1r but not sure I am sold on them.

I think they can be great for certain things but not sure for the every day wedding with things happening so fast its a great choice.

Could be me, but I am getting better results with my 1D IV than my 5D II. I am so glad I was not relying on the 5D II yesterday, after a few minutes of the ceremony, and it turning off and every time I turned it on having to reset the live view options. I finally just turned it off and put it up.

It is a new 5dII with firmware updated.

I am not saying I am giving up, but also missing back up audio options. I know there are work arounds but I am wondering if by the time you do all the work arounds if you couldn't just have an HMC150

I do not do wedding videography every week, usually about 6-8 a year and considering getting rid of the 5d II, getting the HMC150. I have a new Mac Pro, so feel its powerful enough to edit the HMC150 files.

I would still have the 1D IV for some use, and the 1Ds III for the stills.

Wondering what others think, and I know if I ask in the 5DII thread will probably get that its the best thing since sliced bread, but could be coming from people who have never used stand alone video cameras.

DSLR's are great at CREATING specialty shots, provided you have the time to take and re-take them. However, if you're trying to CAPTURE the event as it unfolds, a video camera wins, especially if the event is fast paced or unpredictable.

That is exactly how I am feeling right now. I know there is no such thing in this business as set it and forget it, for me DSLR's are taking me a lot of setup time to get what I am getting. Sure the rack focus is a cool effect, very seldom to I have time to play with it, its hurry up and get set up.

I rarely use Autofocus on my EX1r, but used to have the B cam on auto for certain things and this is not an option with DSLR.

If I hear a good argument for the opposite, I will probably sell the 5dII and get another full time video camera, at least will have another decent audio source.

I use a Pentax K7, perhaps not the most common camera mentioned in these forums, but I love using 30 year old prime lenses.

I also shoot a modest number of weddings in the course of a year. I find the idea of capturing video in a camera body designed to still images wonderful when I find a need for not only capturing video, but having the ability to use lenses that inherently have a short depth of field. DSLR designs, however, aren't making the capture of good video quick and easy. That will change in time.

At this point in time, a video capturing DSLR is the handiest thing for capturing short clips. It is always hanging around my neck for a quick shot (provided I have remembered to pre-set a useful exposure) that my tripod mounted video cameras would not be able to capture. I find the DSLR very useful during ceremonies. I rarely use it for receptions.

Hi Denny

I also am still very reluctant to go to the expense of a 5DII just to shoot the odd "creative" clips!! Here a body only sets you back close to $4K !!
I often find that things happen as you say, pretty quickly and you cannot fiddle around with setup cos the event will be over by the time you are ready!!

Getting my head around having to follow focus with that miniscule margin of DOF, having to capture audio and the 12 second limit on clips makes me reluctant to go this route although the results are awesome!!

Dunno about over there, but here most weddings are rush, rush, we are running out of time, etc etc...I really and truly more often than not, need a camera I can grab and film. The only "peaceful" period is possibily during the speeches and the FOB's 34 minute epic tale certainly doesn't suit a DLSR shoot unless you are prepared to run two or three to cover the times you need to reset the camera after 12 minutes are up.

Chris

I think that DSLRs have their place in the wedding filmmaker toolkit, especially when it comes to specialty footage or capturing stills and video both in close proximity. However, there is, I believe, an elephant in the living room which seems to get glossed over in the DSLR fever conversations... and that is the issue of accurate focus. Focus is just a serious pain when you are under pressure. I have a Z-Finder that does help, but even with something like that it's not always easy to tell completely in the heat of the moment - and then you get back to your edit with the footage and find out you were 1 or 2 feet out of focus. VERY frustrating, because being almost in-focus is in some ways more annoying than being completely out!

Using a monitor big enough to ensure you are in focus is rather impractical in a run/gun scenario like a wedding where you are using a DSLR to get those closeup shots, IMHO. Shooting with a DSLR rig with a monitor attached is not exactly discreet! I think that could be somewhat disruptive. Yes, some shooters would say that getting the good shots is more important than being discreet. I guess that is up to each shooter to figure out based on their rig and the attention it draws.

A lot of the footage I see lately with DSLR stuff in it try to stylistically cover up the constant search for focus with quick cuts or cuts that go in or out of focus "on purpose". It may be a stylistic edit choice, but I believe in some work it's just a cover-up for the focus problems encountered with DSLR shooting. I've done it, and I'm sure lots of us have - but I think it's wearing quite thin stylistically now, and hopefully will not be tolerated as a style for too much longer. I think it's going to be looked upon in a few year's time as a very dated stylistic look, much like other faddish techniques.

Bottom line - DSLRs are not easy to keep in focus. They can still be used very effectively, but the focus thing is something that cannot be brushed under the rug - it's a serious problem at times.

Well I feel better about asking now. I use a DSLR every day, and I am VERY comfortable with its operation but like said before it takes longer to set up than a video camera and IMO so risky unless you have another camera going.

I sold my 5D II already and probably going with the HMC150, I will have the 1D Mark IV for the specialty shots, if I ever get the time to do them.
I cant help but wonder if those who use these DSLR's a lot are just doing it for fun, or if they are actually making a living with them.

For me, I look forward to going back to 2 video cameras and having a little more piece of mind. I can survive with less specialty stuff for now.

I make a living using my Canon 7D. I show potential brides 2 samples. The first, my conventional video cameras and then the DSLR. I charge more for the DSLR and every brides goes for it. Focus is not an issue neither are the 12 minute clips. I worry more about the overheating. It seems there are a few people on these boards that are making excuses for not going the DSLR route, but that is their choice. My Canon A1's image doesn't compare to the Canon 7D.

Michael, I'm not making excuses for not using a DSLR - I have one. But with all due respect, you cannot honestly say that "focus is not an issue". Maybe you are very good at focusing, which makes it not an issue for you, but it IS an issue - not having auto-focus is an issue. You can cut around problems in the edit, but I know you've had people step in or out of focus in your camera work with a DSLR - it's unavoidable. Yes, it can happen with regular videocams too, but many of them have a pretty good auto focus that works better than DSLRs for run and gun shooting.

Glad it works for you, but for me would take charging 3X the amount. Its just a lot more work for me. I also worry about the heat, its a lot, and the cards get hot also and I often wonder if we know the long term effect of this heat yet.

The ex1r is better than my 5d II, so quality is not an issue.

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i would immediately send mine for service in that case :)

I have owned 2 5DII's and when with the right PP the Sony ex1 and Canon 1D Mark IV both had better video IMO.

Are you saying your getting different results?

DSLR are great for selective shooting if the camera overheat you turn it off or wait a few minutes and you're back in business for a while. but if you are shooting an event you cannot gamble on the camera if it overheats or not and that is my fear with DSLR.
I just did a 3 cameras fashion show shoot and the show went for 2H 30min, yes we had to change tapes on the cameras three times, but I never once was sweating if my cameras was going to overheat, and also the 12 min limit would have made my editing much more difficult, I did shoot some prep work before the show with my T2i and that was great, but will never cross my mind to shoot all with DSLR.

But Michael, that's a fashion show, not a wedding. I videotape Police graduations and the ceremony is over an hour. There are really no stop/start points like there is at an hour long wedding ceremony,so I use my Canon A1 for the graduation.

well said by michael simons

canon dslrs are not made for events. However, there are ways around it that people can do to make use of its power. So many wedding producers are using dslr full time now on their shoot. we even stopped bringing our canon a1 in the car anymore. There are certainly more work involved, but for us, its all worth it once we see the quality it brings to our production. To be honest, It has also allowed us to increase our price since our images really stand out and the couple really see the quality that they are getting.

Lastly, we got a job for producing a commercial video for well-known australian beer, James Boag last year because we shot the mock-up using the 5d. The ad agency were so impressed with the quality we produced. We were flown to tasmania and shot there in the bush for 3 nights. We never did anything like that with video before. Now our tools are comparable to those high-end commercial producers that are charging at least 50k for their jobs. How can it be better?

Santo

We use a 5D and 7D to video weddings. In fact we have no experience what so ever with a real video cameras. Because of this, we have gotten extremely good at focusing and knowing to take breaks every 10 minutes. It works out well but there is no room for error which makes it fun imho. Because you have so many variables that could screw things up, you must plan a head and know where you have to be which really is the daunting task.

Some bride and groom demand a documentary style wedding meaning the whole ceremony or the whole speeches at the reception which might run for more than 12 minutes without interruption, so the old video camera still pretty handy when it comes to those kind of events more than the DSLR.

Please QUIT with these threads. How many times do we have to rehash the same thing over and over? You can documentary style with dslr's as long as you stagger the cameras and have a good solid audio recording. case closed. If you need more of the picture in focus, stop it down and you're good. I'm still a rookie when it comes to a dslr and that is simple enough for me to get. Please stop making these cameras harder than they have to be.

Shaun, the great thing is you don't have to read these threads if you don't want to. Things change all the time and its nice to see what people are finding works or does not work. Some things work great, some things you realize were better off before.

Denny that's fine and dandy, but I think this thread does more to bash the dslr than help to create solutions on using the camera. There are ways to use these cameras in pretty much 95% of the applications we use regular cameras. I'm just tired of the bashing and excuses. If we want to have a real discussion on how to use the cams I'm all for it, but if every other word is why this cam is not like that cam then why are you using it in the first place. You can achieve dof with a regular cam and don't need a dslr for that.

I was not bashing at all, I was only saying for me, they are great for certain things, but if your often doing weddings where you are on the fly, that there may be better options.

I have seen some amazing footage with DSLR's but for me, there have been times the footage would have been better with a good quality video camera over what I got with the DSLR.

There will come a time when there will be DSLR cameras without a 12 minute limitation (I have small Sony P&S cams, they shoot for 30 minutes), but how much work is it to bring along a small "safety" camera or two... or three (Panasonic TM700's were around $800 at B&H, comparable Sonys and Canons are available for under $1K...) - stick 'em on tripods and let 'em run... you'll always have a cutaway.

I personally don't want the added stress of ANY camera malfunctions that are a "feature" (overheating and aliasing are the things that hold me back FOR NOW, I don't think they will be problems forever). I've got no doubt that the "glamour shot" benefits from a DSLR, if your market demands it, you'd better be able to offer it. Or if it fits your "style"... not every market has the same expectations.

I'm perfectly fine with manual focus and the challenges it presents - to me that's a "feature" that's worth the added work/skills required, and it's why I'm keeping an eye on Sony to see what if anything they ultimately come up with that mates with the vintage Minolta glass I've got, which has a certain magic...

It would be silly to ignore the DSLR-V as a viable tool, but it may not be the "right" hammer for everyone.

No need to get heated about it, it can do what it can do, it offers possibilities AND some challenges - reading various viewpoints will help someone make the choice for themselves, and see where it would "fit" in their kit and workflow.

Shaun, pointing out the negative part of the DSLR does not mean bashing them, I have one and I use it and I love it, but it does not mean I should sell my video cameras, What might work for you does not mean it works for others.

I think you guys totally missed my point. You guys keep saying what may work for some may not work for others. There are tools and other equipment out there to help put these cameras on par with a regular video cam. Someone mentioned how do you do a Documentary edit with these cams, like apple, we have a solution for that. Someone said they have focusing issues, we have a solution for that too. What about syncing in post, we have a solution for that too. My point being there is nothing wrong with pointing out flaws with a camera, but no one in this thread was discussing possible workarounds and ways to improve the usage of the camera applicable to regular everyday situations. As I stated before, if we are just going to post the negatives without discussing possible solutions to fix what doesn't work with cam compared to the regular cam then why did you buy it? The purpose of buying any camera is to use it as a tool and use it to its full potential, so writing this camera off as strictly a b cam is totally pointless imo. Just my thoughts. You can agree or disagree with me.

Shaun, since you're all about talking solutions, I'm interested to hear about your solutions for focusing on the fly during a wedding - since I've looked at just about any and every option that I can find and still come up wanting. I've used a Z-Finder, which helps, but is not always practical for all angles of shooting, and also can have fogging issues. I have an LCD monitor, but using that with a DSLR rig in a run/gun wedding is not very practical (not to mention heavy) and also is rather annoying/disruptive in an intimate wedding scenario. So what's your solution? Don't tell me "practice"- - even the world's best shooters are having focus issues with these cams.

Your posts show a general frustration at any discussion of DSLRs that point out their limitations - and they DO have limitations - they are not perfect for every shooting scenario. Even that House episode which used 5D's had to have remote follow-focus rigs to be able to do what they needed to do, which I have a feeling is impractical and out of reach financially for the vast majority of wedding shooters. Even then the director talked about how focus was a continual issue. No disrespect to you here, but I think he knows what he is talking about.

I LOVE these cams - I think the DSLR revolution is great - but I don't swing to either extreme here. They are great for what they can do, and not great for what they don't do very well. I'm open to new solutions for their liabilities - but if it involves a rig that triples or more the price of the camera and a focus puller to do what needs to be done, that's not very practical or realistic for those of us who are mere event videographers.

Bill Once again you totally missed my point. My frustration is not with a discussion of limitations, its a discussion with no solutions. Now you speak about run and gun situations and focusing issues. Explain exactly what you mean cause not all weddings and events is the cinematographer running around like a camera guy from cops so explain fully and I will offer up a solution. Also, it seems that you have a tool (the LCD monitor) and choose not to use it because of your personal preference which should have no bearing on what can be done with the camera. You could use the monitor and have perfect focus if YOU CHOOSE TO. You don't like the weight of it so you dont use it. I could tell you that you get better gas mileage out of your car if you change your oil, but if you choose not to take advantage of that advice then don't come back bash the quality of the car. As stated there are enough tools and real world workarounds to make the camera work that were not being discussed in this thread. Also the whole point that you concluded about the House episode was wrong. Please revisit Phillip Bloom's interview with the Director. They had 3 cams going at all times and at least 1 of the cameras at all times didn't use remote follow focus and the focus was pulled by the camera operator. The Director also admitted that the camera often had better shots than that of the cameras with the wireless follow focus. I said it twice already, so I guess it wont hurt to say it a 3rd time. I'm all for discussions of a cameras weakness to improve how we use it, but all negatives posted with no workarounds is unacceptable and not what this board was intended for. Use the solutions given to you and if you choose not to then don't complain. Simple. Its nothing hard about what I'm saying. As I stated before, you can agree or disagree with me. Just like you have your opinion I have mine. Simple.

I do see your point, Shaun. Are you using an LCD monitor outdoors at weddings? Do you have a portable monitoring rig? How did you attach it so that you are still really portable? What ARE your solutions? Please expound. I want to hear your experiences, cause I can certainly give you mine, first-hand, and they are far from "perfect", and I'm still actively looking for the best approaches. I'm not trying to just talk about limitations - I love my 5D and want to use it as much as possible. So please, share with us all, and I'm not being sarcastic here - I really, really want to know!

Ok. I've used gear from one of my friends for my 7d and used it for a wedding. I haven't used it for an outside wedding but I'm pretty sure we could pull off the same effects with the same gear outside. He's using an Ikan monitor with the dslr rig from cinevate. The monitor is attached to the top of the rig and you can move the monitor in different directions to get focus while standing in different positions. In run and gun situations i always think about camera placement and how certain shots will look and try to compose for that. Now after saying that, before I begin shooting I know which shots I'm looking for before I begin shooting. Using these cameras takes a lot preparation and that time is invaluable when shooting a wedding. I have been able to pull focus on a monitor and just by eye with great results. In a situation where there will be a lot of movement I try to stop down to get as much of the picture in focus as I can, but you can't plan for everything. No different than when i use my XH-A1. There are times where i miss shots, but never important moments but the key is always back ups. Btw Bill, I have a wedding next weekend and it will be an outside wedding. I'll come back and post my results, with and without the rig. Cool?

In regards of focusing, my advice is (like it or not) practise and experience

1. practise makes perfect. you just need to shoot more and more and focus more and more. you will get better

2. experience means that you know which situation demands certain settings on your camera.

for example, if I'm shooting the bride walking down the isle, i wouldn't shoot her on f1.4 I would probably shoot her on f2.8 maximum

when I'm shooting bride having her make-up done, I'd shoot her on f1.2-f1.8 cause I want the beauty shots and she's not moving much.

When there is anything important happening, I would stick to f2.8 maximum and mid shot until I'm comfortable with the scenario.

when the environment is low light, I will most like by on wider shot since it will give me greater depth of field and I can stop down more to get more light.

these kind of stuff really helps in making your decision while shooting so that you can minimise your chances of screwing the focus.

Its not wrong to crank your ISO up even though you can still stop down your aperture because you just want to be safe with your depth of field. shallow depth of field is not always good. but what is great, you can customise your depth of field however you want.

hope that helps

Santo

Practice is what ultimately will improve your cinematography skills no matter what the medium is. Learning to use a DSLR is like learning to use a steadicam/glidecam... lots of patience and practice. If you don't want to master focus pulling and the other challenges that a DSLR present, buy a regular video camera. Shooting with a regular video camera is like shooting with a zoom lens on a DSLR that has a constant aperture of F16 (estimate). You don't have to be good at pulling focus or know how to creatively use DOF because it isn't that present.

I recommend people who want to use DSLR's to go shoot photos with one, take a photography class, or intern with a photographer. Learning to be a photographer as well will put you ahead of the other guys out there. If you know someone shooting a narrative or some other film with a DSLR or 35mm adapter, get on board as the AC. I started shooting with 35mm adapters over 5 years ago so the transition to DSLR's was more of a blessing than anything. There are downfalls to using DSLR's, but you learn the limitations and work around them. It becomes a snap with practice. You can also find all your "solutions" on other message boards like the one that starts with cinema and ends with 5d. A good comprehensive knowledge base on DSLR's for video.

Anyone can use a DSLR or video camera, but that doesn't mean that they can produce amazing visuals just by owning them. I have seen photos from professional photogs that prove that anyone who can afford a camera can be deemed as a "professional".

I encourage everyone to push themselves to be more creative and fine tune their craft and never stop learning. The day you stop learning you might as well quit and do something else.

Shaun, I look forward to hearing your experiences. Please post pics of your outdoor rig, I would love to see what it looks like.

As for what you are frustrated with - i.e. people posting about limitations on DSLRs - is just part of figuring out solutions. From your own admission you haven't had that much experience with them - and luckily, you've been able to get great footage from them. That's very good. But there are those who, even tho they are good shooters, and have good focusing skills, still have issues with these cams in high pressure, "get the shot or else" types of scenarios. Just for example, a bride isn't really going to care why, but she will care that you didn't get her in focus when they kissed, because at that moment your LCD was reflecting sunlight, or because you weren't quite ready to get the shot and weren't able to pull the LCD into perfect view before focusing, etc... it happens. With a regular videocam it happens too, but with it you can still point the camera at the subject and if the autofocus is much good at all, you'll more likely than not get a decently focused, usable shot. No searching for focus, no stopping down, no having to deal with a cumbersome rig and external monitor.

Manual focus is a skill, and it takes practice, as you and others have stated. However, there is more to it than just the DSLR. If someone asked me what camera they should buy to start doing weddings, I would NOT recommend a DSLR as the first/only cam - mainly because it DOES require much practice, and extra equipment to really get it right. I would recommend a good solid videocamera that lets the shooter concentrate on composition and smooth pans, zooms and such. It's going to make the job 10 times easier to do for anyone who doesn't want to mess with a DSLR and all the stuff that it requires. Is it possible to get out of focus shots with a videocamera? Of course! Is it easier to focus with a DSLR than a videocamera with a good autofocus? No, it isn't. And, a videocam can adjust focus very fast and correctly while recording - can't do that with a DSLR - you're going to have to hope you can get it right without over or undershooting your focusing, and that is exactly why it's not ideal in some situations. If you do overshoot your focus it looks unprofessional and really tacky - and I see it ALL THE TIME in DSLR footage. People edit around it, but it happens all the time.

I consider myself a good litmus test here - because I've been shooting with videocams for years, and now am using both videocams and DSLRs. I know the benefits AND drawbacks of each. My wanting to talk about both is not "bashing" or speaking only of limitations... but they do have them, and regardless how you dress them up, they still do. We need to be realistic about the good AND the challenges so that people on these boards can make informed decisions - including you and me.

I shot an outdoor wedding on May 14 with my 7D. I'm a run and gun videographer. I have no problems with focus. I don't use a follow focus or external monitor. I use a Z-Finder. My A1 stays in the car. Is it more work to shoot with a DSLR? Hell yeah! But the results are worth it.

I was first scared to shoot with a 7D, that I returned it. Then I saw my second videographer shoot on his 7D and he footage never compared to mine. So i ordered it a 7D again from B&H and now I'm super happy with it. YES, the focus is an issue, but i've learned to be good at turning the dial in the right direction to keep it in focus. I find this camera keeps me on my toes. In the end BRO, this is all going to change with in the next year. Panasonic is going to release a DSLR camera that has all the functions of DSLR but with the auto focus so hold your panties and wait if you want too. I'm shooting solely on DSLR and nothing but solid reviews from brides.

I do use a regular camera for certain points of the ceremony, but that's it.

7D rules@!!!

There is a difference between the 5D and the 7D in terms of focus - the smaller sensor on the 7D gives it more DOF and that does help. When shooting with the 5D it is different - a bit more challenging to stay in focus.

Picking up a 7D may be well worth it for this, I guess one of my concerns is the HEAT. I can live with the heat on a 7d body, not like the lens is being affected. The 1D IV its another story, when you grab that body and feel how hot it is, not a good feeling at all, especially when its used all day every day to make your living.

I will continue to use it for specific short length shots, but am almost sure I am going with a second ex1r for my B cam. Time is my biggest enemy, having two identical cameras will save me time on the wedding day, and lots of time editing. I am by no means a great videographer, or editor so I need to keep it as simple as possible.

Thanks for all the input and to be honest I am super glad to see the 7d have good reviews. I know there are work arounds using DSLR, and many will be great with them. My eyes are not what they used to and our crew does photography and video and I need to make things as idiot proof as I can. For ME DSLR is too demanding for my situation.

Hey Denny I've been using DSLR only for my last 6 jobs. There are many frustrations I have with it and yet you do get a nice pleasing image. The funny thing for me though is that my XHA1 footage looks just as good because of the color. The more I look over my XHA1 videos in comparison to my DSLR footage the more I like both cams. I'm a little confused as I have read many posters say they leave their XHA1's in the car and yet I'm very thrilled with the look I get out of it. The difference is the DOF and a more 3D rendered look to the DSLR. For me both will have their place in future jobs. One thing I wish canon would do though is make the XHA1 tapeless. The XF300 is nice but the XHA1 is more than enough for me. They sure can be used on event jobs but there is so much that goes wrong you will definitely start to lose many hairs from the stress.

I hear so many good things about the XHA1 but my image is lousy. I have 2 friends that have the XHA1 and their image is lousy also. My GL1 has a better image than the XHA1. What are you doing to make your XHA1 image so good?

I am also using a Canon A1s and I can tell you that if you use it with manual control and custom presets you can get amazing images from it - including shallow DOF (the DSLR can do this easier, but it's still possible with the A1). As for it using tape, I use a Sony MRC1 CF recorder to record, which I have used now for four or so shoots and LOVE it. Now I have the quality of the Canon camera, lens and sensor with tapeless capability. It does eliminate capture time - the transferring of A1 files now takes minutes instead of hours.

One thing about the tapeless A1 workflow tho - it brings the files in as HDV files - you have to then convert them to something friendlier if you want to mix footage with other cams.

With proper tweaking I have found cutting between the A1 and the 5D to be painless, or close. Sometimes I tweak the color on the A1 to match the 5D a little bit better, but I'm also planning on creating or finding a preset for the A1 that is designed to match the 5D.

We transitioned from XHA1's to 7D's, and I guarantee you that the image you get from a 7D is better than the image you can get from an A1. The A1 is a great camera, no doubt. You can play with the settings and get a great looking image. But at the end of the day it just doesn't hold up to an image from the 7D. Anyone who thinks these cameras produce equal image quality needs an eye exam. d;-p

The 7D has much better resolution, sharpness, color reproduction, DOF, low light and so on. That said, and as others have pointed out, it's definitely not as easy to use as an A1. Sometimes I miss that about my A1's. But I don't miss the A1's image.

Yes Travis, totally agreed on the A1 vs. DSLR (Canon, anyway) cameras as far as quality of picture - but I do think they can still co-exist effectively if you are willing to squeeze the juice a bit harder out of the A1. What it lacks for me in terms of picture quality I think it gains in other ways, such as on-board professional audio inputs and very detailed color space adjustability, zoom, autofocus, and other on-board videocam features. Also with the MRC1 unit I'm able to record up to 244 minutes of data continuously - and I love that.

I think that there's probably a market right now for a device that will automatically start a new file on a DSLR by mechanical means so that a DSLR can be left unattended as a stationary cam without manually restarting every 12 minutes. That would help a lot of event shooters.


I think we're all waiting for the ultimate mutation of DSLR and videocamera strains to give us the perfect hybrid cam. The next couple of years are going to be extremely interesting in the prosumer/entry-level camcorder market.