Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive at DVinfo.net

Chris Bryan · April 26th, 2011, 08:13 AM

Hello everyone,

I'm a wedding videographer and I have a couple that has paid me to deliver all of their raw footage to them in addition to the edited version. I told them that I'd give them the footage on an external drive for them to keep. I have about 350gb of footage that I'd like to deliver to them. I kept the camera running for the entire ceremony (1.5 hours!) so one file alone is over 100gb. The question is, how do I deliver this to them on a drive? I know they have a mac laptop, but I'm concerned that they may want to view this footage on a pc at some point, so I'd like to give them a drive that's as compatible as possible. If I make the drive fat 32, then I can't transfer files to it over 4gb.

Suggestions?

Thanks!

Jeff Harper · April 26th, 2011, 08:29 AM

You simply ask them if they want it compatible with PC or Mac, and deliver accordingly. Pretty simple. Don't complicate it for them, or agonize over it.

Otherwise you would need to give them two hard drives if they request it.

For PC drive why would you not format to NTFS?

I would just let them decide, and try not to worry about it. They can move or have it moved to another hard drive later if necessary.

Chris Medico · April 26th, 2011, 08:35 AM

Make the drive NTFS and copy everything over.

Macs can read NTFS. I do this regularly to send data to a coworker that is Mac based.

If you make it HFS they won't be able to read it with a PC.

Jeff Harper · April 26th, 2011, 08:44 AM

Thanks, Chris, that is useful info, didn't know macs could read NTFS.

Joel Peregrine · April 26th, 2011, 09:58 AM

Hi Chris,

Just curious - which camera records at nearly 1GB per minute? Thats huge!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Bryan

Hello everyone,

I'm a wedding videographer and I have a couple that has paid me to deliver all of their raw footage to them in addition to the edited version. I told them that I'd give them the footage on an external drive for them to keep. I have about 350gb of footage that I'd like to deliver to them. I kept the camera running for the entire ceremony (1.5 hours!) so one file alone is over 100gb. The question is, how do I deliver this to them on a drive? I know they have a mac laptop, but I'm concerned that they may want to view this footage on a pc at some point, so I'd like to give them a drive that's as compatible as possible. If I make the drive fat 32, then I can't transfer files to it over 4gb.

Suggestions?

Thanks!

Ed Roo · April 26th, 2011, 11:13 AM

Can anyone tell me how to change the permissions on an NTFS formatted external hard disk drive so that a Mac can write to it?

Chris Medico · April 26th, 2011, 11:54 AM

Hi Ed,

That isn't advisable directly under OSx on Mac. It requires editing of system config files and has undesirable consequences.

You will need to install extra software to enable writing to NTFS.

Take a read here and see if this points you in the right direction:
Apple - Downloads - System/Disk Utilities - NTFS-3G

Osmany Tellez · April 26th, 2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Joel Peregrine

Hi Chris,

Just curious - which camera records at nearly 1GB per minute? Thats huge!

I believe pana HVX200a full HD is aprox. 1gb per minute....depends...also if shot native 24p or 30p or over 60p. I think...

Andrew Brown · April 26th, 2011, 02:53 PM

Unless they are planning on re-editing then isn't just a drive full of clips a bit pointless.
Why not just drag everything to a timeline and create a film of all the raw footage?

Chris Bryan · April 26th, 2011, 05:42 PM

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the responses, the camera I'm using is the Panasonic HMC150, I am delivering Prores files after final cut has unpacked the AVCHD files.

How do I format a hard drive as NTFS on a mac? When I go to format the drive on my mac the only options I have are the various Mac formats (Mac OS Extended etc.), MS-DOS FAT, and ExFAT.

Thanks again!

Jeff Harper · April 26th, 2011, 06:10 PM

How well will those huge clips will play for a customer on a laptop? Will they need a codec to play them if they don't have FCP? Just sounds kind of intense, but I'm a PC guy so what do I know.

Chris Medico · April 26th, 2011, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Bryan

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the responses, the camera I'm using is the Panasonic HMC150, I am delivering Prores files after final cut has unpacked the AVCHD files.

How do I format a hard drive as NTFS on a mac? When I go to format the drive on my mac the only options I have are the various Mac formats (Mac OS Extended etc.), MS-DOS FAT, and ExFAT.

Thanks again!

You will need to format the drive with a PC then install the software from the link above to write the files to the NTFS partition.

Ed Roo · April 26th, 2011, 08:00 PM

Chris - thanks for the pointer to the NTFS-3G info!

Chris Bryan · April 27th, 2011, 07:09 AM

Hey guys,

Thanks again for all of the responses, so it sounds like I'm kind of stuck as I don't own a pc and don't plan on buying one simply to give raw files to clients. What do you guys do to deliver Raw Files? I have clients that ask for it all the time and if they are willing to pay for it then I'd like to be able to give it to them. Again, for a typical 8 hour wedding I have around 200-300 gb of footage.

Thanks!

Chris Medico · April 27th, 2011, 08:11 AM

Chris,

If you do a quick search in this forum you'll see that subject well covered with a wide range of opinions already.

April 26th, 2011, 08:13 AM	#1
Chris Bryan Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: New York, NY Posts: 78	Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Hello everyone, I'm a wedding videographer and I have a couple that has paid me to deliver all of their raw footage to them in addition to the edited version. I told them that I'd give them the footage on an external drive for them to keep. I have about 350gb of footage that I'd like to deliver to them. I kept the camera running for the entire ceremony (1.5 hours!) so one file alone is over 100gb. The question is, how do I deliver this to them on a drive? I know they have a mac laptop, but I'm concerned that they may want to view this footage on a pc at some point, so I'd like to give them a drive that's as compatible as possible. If I make the drive fat 32, then I can't transfer files to it over 4gb. Suggestions? Thanks!

April 26th, 2011, 08:29 AM	#2
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive You simply ask them if they want it compatible with PC or Mac, and deliver accordingly. Pretty simple. Don't complicate it for them, or agonize over it. Otherwise you would need to give them two hard drives if they request it. For PC drive why would you not format to NTFS? I would just let them decide, and try not to worry about it. They can move or have it moved to another hard drive later if necessary. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 26th, 2011, 08:35 AM	#3
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Make the drive NTFS and copy everything over. Macs can read NTFS. I do this regularly to send data to a coworker that is Mac based. If you make it HFS they won't be able to read it with a PC. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

April 26th, 2011, 08:44 AM	#4
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Thanks, Chris, that is useful info, didn't know macs could read NTFS. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 26th, 2011, 11:13 AM	#6
Ed Roo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Columbus USA Posts: 312	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Can anyone tell me how to change the permissions on an NTFS formatted external hard disk drive so that a Mac can write to it?

April 26th, 2011, 11:54 AM	#7
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Hi Ed, That isn't advisable directly under OSx on Mac. It requires editing of system config files and has undesirable consequences. You will need to install extra software to enable writing to NTFS. Take a read here and see if this points you in the right direction: Apple - Downloads - System/Disk Utilities - NTFS-3G __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

April 26th, 2011, 02:53 PM	#9
Andrew Brown Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: UK Posts: 33	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Unless they are planning on re-editing then isn't just a drive full of clips a bit pointless. Why not just drag everything to a timeline and create a film of all the raw footage? __________________ www.memoriesonfilm.co.uk

April 26th, 2011, 05:42 PM	#10
Chris Bryan Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: New York, NY Posts: 78	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Hey guys, Thanks for all the responses, the camera I'm using is the Panasonic HMC150, I am delivering Prores files after final cut has unpacked the AVCHD files. How do I format a hard drive as NTFS on a mac? When I go to format the drive on my mac the only options I have are the various Mac formats (Mac OS Extended etc.), MS-DOS FAT, and ExFAT. Thanks again!

April 26th, 2011, 06:10 PM	#11
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive How well will those huge clips will play for a customer on a laptop? Will they need a codec to play them if they don't have FCP? Just sounds kind of intense, but I'm a PC guy so what do I know. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

April 26th, 2011, 08:00 PM	#13
Ed Roo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Columbus USA Posts: 312	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Chris - thanks for the pointer to the NTFS-3G info!

April 27th, 2011, 07:09 AM	#14
Chris Bryan Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: New York, NY Posts: 78	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Hey guys, Thanks again for all of the responses, so it sounds like I'm kind of stuck as I don't own a pc and don't plan on buying one simply to give raw files to clients. What do you guys do to deliver Raw Files? I have clients that ask for it all the time and if they are willing to pay for it then I'd like to be able to give it to them. Again, for a typical 8 hour wedding I have around 200-300 gb of footage. Thanks!

April 27th, 2011, 08:11 AM	#15
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Delivering Raw Footage on Hard Drive Chris, If you do a quick search in this forum you'll see that subject well covered with a wide range of opinions already. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com