'Not a very attractive bride'

Mike Lorushe · October 12th, 2013, 05:08 PM

I read about this in the metro newspaper on a way to a shoot a couple of days ago.

I think it mentioned that he apologised and gave them a full refund. As inappropriate as it was for him to make such comments, I think it was rather petty to release a story like this to the press.

Andrew Maclaurin · October 12th, 2013, 05:43 PM

i agree with those who have pointed out that many on here bitch about their clients, but then point the finger when someone is caught. nobody is perfect. yes, he seems to be a racist chancer who really should pay more attention to what he's doing. but then again he could be just a someone letting off steam (in a stupid way) with a dodgy website. Racism is uncalled for and plain stupid but who hasn't complained about idiot clients??? they exist and are numerous!

beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but some folk are, well...challenging, in a visual kind of way....

Dave Blackhurst · October 13th, 2013, 05:06 PM

A PRO will make the bride the most beautiful woman of the day, no matter how "visually challenging"... that's what separates the PRO from a wanker that spouts off and blames someone else for his inadequacies.... or that his clients were foolish enough to hire him at HIS OWN SET PRICE and expect he would do the job professionally.

I would suggest one thing can be learned from this is that ANY "wedding videographer" who makes disparaging comments about the bride is committing professional SUICIDE in a social media age...

Not everyone is a supermodel, but if you make them FEEL like they are, you will be the PRO they remember (in a GOOD way!)

Noa Put · October 14th, 2013, 01:05 AM

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A PRO will make the bride the most beautiful woman of the day, no matter how "visually challenging"...

Yeah, it's easy done in the new version of Edius, there are several blur presets ranging from good looking to plain ugly, I think the plain ugly preset is around 70% blur, works like a charm but I"d never tell the bride, I"m not that stupid.

Paul R Johnson · October 14th, 2013, 01:31 AM

Sound people spend long hours with headphones on privvy to the very private comments made by the talent wearing the mics - the key feature of the job is that nothing heard gets passed on - even if you hear the artiste slagging YOU off. Like "The sound guy is really piss1ng me off - he always come in here wanting the stuff back just when I want to relax - I'm going to tell him to F*ck off next time - he's a twat" - and then you have to go in, knowing that changing the routine might reveal you 'know', and of course the person is all smiles, just like you". It's all pretend, isn't it - it simply needs privacy maintained. That is all that went wrong.

People are allowed to be racist, bigoted, homophobic in private. No Government is going to try to prevent you having opinions. You just can't promote these in public.

Paul Mailath · October 14th, 2013, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Noa Put

Yeah, it's easy done in the new version of Edius, there are several blur presets ranging from good looking to plain ugly, I think the plain ugly preset is around 70% blur, works like a charm but I"d never tell the bride, I"m not that stupid.

I think you just did - this isn't a private thread is it?

Noa Put · October 14th, 2013, 06:38 AM

Well, my clients have a sense of humor so they will understand.

John Nantz · October 14th, 2013, 08:45 AM

And if things are really bad ....

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Originally Posted by Noa Put

Yeah, it's easy done in the new version of Edius, there are several blur presets ranging from good looking to plain ugly, I think the plain ugly preset is around 70% blur, works like a charm but I"d never tell the bride, I"m not that stupid.

.... you can pixilate!

Disclaimer: I don't have to worry because I don't do weddings.

Andrew Maclaurin · October 15th, 2013, 02:32 PM

I have found that the best solution for boring weddings is to hand over a blank dvd and to tell my client that after careful consideration I think this is the best option for their video. I then charge them extra as I had to edit down 2 hours of footage to... well, just the best bits. That's a lot of cutting!

Daniel Latimer · October 16th, 2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Maclaurin

I have found that the best solution for boring weddings is to hand over a blank dvd and to tell my client that after careful consideration I think this is the best option for their video. I then charge them extra as I had to edit down 2 hours of footage to... well, just the best bits. That's a lot of cutting!

HA! Quote of the night!

Nick Reuter · October 21st, 2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

I understand Adrian. Bestiality is widely available but I don't want to see it here. I do not see relevance here.

Wow, that's quite a leap from the OP. I think it's entirely relevant as a discussion post in a videography forum. This guys name was definitely already in the public domain so it's not like he caused any harm to anyone.

I am fairly new to DVInfo (a bit over a year) but I love it hear because I get answers to technical, practical, and business questions that I have as I slowly do different types of video work. This is informative and interesting and related to what we do. Sort of like that guy who hit the bride in the head with the quadcopter over the summer, or the grandmother who threw a glass of wine instead of confetti on the B&G as they left the church.

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It is my fondest hope that there are no members of this forum who will need to remember to keep their cameras turned off because they would say such things. If they do get caught saying such things then they have it coming anyway, they've asked for it.

True :) I have no real sympathy for this videographer

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I have not seen the news article, and I can tell you I do not feel sorry that I missed it. There is no telling who is telling the truth in the news half the time anyway, it's mostly he-said/she-said.

Except when it's recorded on camera!!

October 12th, 2013, 05:08 PM	#31
Mike Lorushe New Boot Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: London, UK Posts: 12	Re: 'Not a very attractive bride' I read about this in the metro newspaper on a way to a shoot a couple of days ago. I think it mentioned that he apologised and gave them a full refund. As inappropriate as it was for him to make such comments, I think it was rather petty to release a story like this to the press.

October 12th, 2013, 05:43 PM	#32
Andrew Maclaurin Major Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 396	Re: 'Not a very attractive bride' i agree with those who have pointed out that many on here bitch about their clients, but then point the finger when someone is caught. nobody is perfect. yes, he seems to be a racist chancer who really should pay more attention to what he's doing. but then again he could be just a someone letting off steam (in a stupid way) with a dodgy website. Racism is uncalled for and plain stupid but who hasn't complained about idiot clients??? they exist and are numerous! beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but some folk are, well...challenging, in a visual kind of way....

October 13th, 2013, 05:06 PM	#33
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	Re: 'Not a very attractive bride' A PRO will make the bride the most beautiful woman of the day, no matter how "visually challenging"... that's what separates the PRO from a wanker that spouts off and blames someone else for his inadequacies.... or that his clients were foolish enough to hire him at HIS OWN SET PRICE and expect he would do the job professionally. I would suggest one thing can be learned from this is that ANY "wedding videographer" who makes disparaging comments about the bride is committing professional SUICIDE in a social media age... Not everyone is a supermodel, but if you make them FEEL like they are, you will be the PRO they remember (in a GOOD way!)

October 14th, 2013, 01:31 AM	#35
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,015	Re: 'Not a very attractive bride' Sound people spend long hours with headphones on privvy to the very private comments made by the talent wearing the mics - the key feature of the job is that nothing heard gets passed on - even if you hear the artiste slagging YOU off. Like "The sound guy is really piss1ng me off - he always come in here wanting the stuff back just when I want to relax - I'm going to tell him to F*ck off next time - he's a twat" - and then you have to go in, knowing that changing the routine might reveal you 'know', and of course the person is all smiles, just like you". It's all pretend, isn't it - it simply needs privacy maintained. That is all that went wrong. People are allowed to be racist, bigoted, homophobic in private. No Government is going to try to prevent you having opinions. You just can't promote these in public.

October 14th, 2013, 06:38 AM	#37
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	Re: 'Not a very attractive bride' Well, my clients have a sense of humor so they will understand.

October 15th, 2013, 02:32 PM	#39
Andrew Maclaurin Major Player Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 396	Re: 'Not a very attractive bride' I have found that the best solution for boring weddings is to hand over a blank dvd and to tell my client that after careful consideration I think this is the best option for their video. I then charge them extra as I had to edit down 2 hours of footage to... well, just the best bits. That's a lot of cutting!