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Jeff Harper May 27th, 2014 09:42 PM

Re: Youtube and Copyright
 
David, you quoted me. yet you completely missed the meaning. The COPYRIGHT HOLDER is the decision maker in cases of matched content. The copyright holder, the entity who has the legal right over how a song can be used, decides the policy, not Youtube. Youtube simply executes the procedure according to policy of the copyright holder.

If I have a video with a copyrighted song and there is an ad on it, it is legal because the copyright holder has granted permission and is being compensated.

What makes the process risky for Youtube account holders who use copyrighted material is that there is no way to know, with certainty, what policy will be from song to song or from instance to instance.

The copyright holder is legally entitled to make these decisions and can choose when they want a video taken down or muted, or to have an ad attached to it.

The link below explains things. It is pretty much as I have stated.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797370

Chris Harding May 27th, 2014 10:10 PM

Re: Youtube and Copyright
 
Hey Jeff

I think the bottom line is just upload your video to YouTube and then see what they tell you.

If they put ads on (as instructed by the copyright holder) and you can live with ads, then no problem.
If they want the music removed they will also tell you (they have always given me an option to remove the offending track) so you can also do that
If they require the video to be removed then simply remove, take out the bits they don't like and replace with ambience or a royalty free track and upload again.

The bottom line is that you still can put your video on YouTube and allow it to be viewed but it could have some restrictions so surely the bride can live with that??

Chris

Jeff Harper May 27th, 2014 10:39 PM

Re: Youtube and Copyright
 
You are correct, Chris, we can gamble and see what happens. The problem is if your video is taken down you will get a strike. Then if you get a certain number of strikes, then your account will be terminated!

What makes it complicated and dangerous for you and me is not knowing what will trigger a strike.

Chris DeVoe May 27th, 2014 11:57 PM

Re: Youtube and Copyright
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Partington (Post 1846763)
The question is not the composition, but the recording surely? Each new recording carries a new copyright.

No, this was my recording. I recorded a classical pianist playing a work by Liszt. And some sleeze tried to claim a copyright on the composition.

David Stoneburner May 28th, 2014 09:43 AM

Re: Youtube and Copyright
 
I have one video that they muted the audio on due to a couple of songs in a mix that my son danced to. I was thinking of challenging it on the fair use basis of
1. It was incidental audio playing at the event. I didn't edit in the clean mix, camera mic only.
2. It is a documentation of historical event for that school and student. (I saw something about that within fair use)
3. It's commentary on the music but it in a movement. (I\'m not sure that can be considered commentary, but his original choreography is to the music and is a new derivative work from it.

I\'m not sure how strong of arguments they are, and I guess I wondering how easy it is for your account to be closed. YT does mention that they can close your account for a false claim.

Do you think that my claims above could be considered false and reason enough to close my account? It\'s not worth it for one video, but I would like to audio the audio back on. He also sings in the video later and that is muted out so it doesn\'t lend itself for being posted at that point. It currently has just over 5,000 views.

Jeff Harper May 28th, 2014 10:41 AM

Re: Youtube and Copyright
 
David, I would think you could try, sounds like they could reject your claim, but it doesn\'t sound false. On the other hand it might not be worth the risk. Good luck.


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