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Old February 9th, 2015, 12:25 AM   #1
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1/4 20 to belt buckle adapter?

So, I was filming an Indian wedding yesterday, and went light on gear -- instead of radio mics, I just took a bunch of Roland R-05s.

Now, when I was trying to mic the groom before he climbed on the horse, I ran into a problem -- no pockets anywhere. (Normally, there's pockets in the pants.) So, instead, he kind of tucked the recorder in between his pants and his skin, and the waist elastic must have been fairly tight, because it managed to hold on till the end of the ceremony.

Couldn't have been comfortable for him though, so the situation was not ideal... (The sound quality was awesome though.)

Question: do you know of any way to attach a belt clip to a 1/4 20 thread? Or how would you have attached the recorder in this situation?

If there's some readymade 1/4 20 to belt buckled adapter, I'd love to know about it. Otherwise... Well, I'm incompetent with anything DIY, but would it be as easy as making a hole in some sort of belt clip, then sticking a screw in?
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Old February 9th, 2015, 02:42 AM   #2
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Re: 1/4 20 to belt buckle adapter?

A Phone/mp3 player holder for running?

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ph...ed=0CAcQ_AUoAg

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Old February 9th, 2015, 01:06 PM   #3
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Hi Peter, one problem with a belt buckle adapter, DIY or otherwise, is that the clip is still going to dig into his skin if he's just wearing "ceremonial pyjamas pants" with no belt.

So yours is a brilliant suggestion. It occurs to me that some sleeves might be too tight to fit a recorder under them, but I guess most are going to be loose enough.

I've done a little bit of research. Seems like most phone armbands are too small for a Roland (phones are too slim these days).

However, another option that didn't occur to me before now is pouches specifically designed for wireless transmitters. There are at least two companies that make them -- "Wireless Mic Belts" (which sells on B&H) and Neopax (Product Line).


One issue with these so far -- not sure they're made in a size that would fit around an arm and be able to tighten (I'm thinking I need something about 9-10" in length, but the Neopax ankle belts seem to be 17", and the Wireless Mic Belts range doesn't include anything smaller than waist band).

Definitely going to buy a few to add to the kit. Might also be helpful for other people with no pockets -- some priests, female celebrants, bridesmaids at reception (if you have to mic them up for speeches).

Edit: Seems to be other companies to add to the list. Discovered that Shure makes various pouches, one specifically for arms: Wireless System Cases & Adapters | Shure Americas (search for "arm"). These sell on B&H for $16 (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/320521-REG/Shure_WA620_WA620_Neoprene_Armband.html), and maybe they're perfect for my uses. (Images of Shure arm band and waist band below).

Also found this soundie thread (less useful for weddings) about various chest harnesses: PSC micbra vs Neopax chest belt - Equipment - JWSOUNDGROUP.
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Old February 9th, 2015, 03:22 PM   #4
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Adrian: its your wedding. You're the groom. You have no knowledge of video but you'd quite like a decent video of your wedding. And this video guy comes up and starts trying to put an ARMBAND on you. Really!!!!!

You have Senny G3's don't you. Why didn't you simply put the supplied bracket on the back of a transmitter and slip it over the top of his trouserband. Thats what its for yes?

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p.s. re-reading your post, did you not take the G3's with you because you wanted as little kit as possible so you didn't have any in reserve?
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Old February 9th, 2015, 04:20 PM   #5
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Hey Peter, yep, I'm going to try the armband thing! It's basically going to be for south-east Asian grooms (since everyone else will have pockets), and those guys generally love video. I honestly don't think they'd have a problem, especially if you flagged it with them beforehand. If it means they'll have a great video, just tell them, and they'll do it.

One slight issue with wireless, apart from the fact that the clip might dig into his skin if he's wearing traditional pants, or that the weight of it might even make his pants fall down(!), is you then need to carry the receiver + recorder with you, or plug the receiver into your camera, because he's going to be walking from some distance away to the ceremony location. (And, without going too much into it, plugging into camera causes complications if, like me, you're shooting DSLR.)
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Old April 22nd, 2015, 05:09 PM   #6
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Some more information (in case anyone ever Googles this thread):

Digital SLR Belt Clip – For Audio Recorders » CheesyCam

A few ideas there. There are some readymade plastic clips. I've ordered them, and they're a lot clunkier and bigger than they look; not discreet at all. Cheesycam also links to some generic metal clips that are no longer available.

Another lead -- if you simply type "belt clip" into B&H, you'll get a few ideas. For instance, the standard clips for transmitter packs perhaps could be adapted with gaffer tape, and there's products like this:

-- http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/406900-REG/Denecke_BELT_CLIP_BELT_CLIP_for_Denecke.html
-- http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/326893-REG/Lectrosonics_BCWIRE_BCWIRE_Wire_Belt_Clip.html
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Old August 15th, 2017, 07:52 PM   #7
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Very old thread, but I came across in a search for a clip for a zoom audio recorder and found this: http://a.co/8R1IUMX
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