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Daniel Boswell · November 19th, 2006, 08:31 PM

Couple has a unique story. They have known each other since they were 5.

Music was choosen by clients. Its a little too classical for me..but they both played violin so they wanted it.

It also has a short SDE (same day edit) at the end. This full clip was screened at the reception.

http://homepage.mac.com/epiphany2002/timrhea_full.wmv

Jason Robinson · November 20th, 2006, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Boswell

Couple has a unique story. They have known each other since they were 5.

Music was choosen by clients. Its a little too classical for me..but they both played violin so they wanted it.

It also has a short SDE (same day edit) at the end. This full clip was screened at the reception.

http://homepage.mac.com/epiphany2002/timrhea_full.wmv

Unless you have monster / unlimited bandwidth (does the .mac account give you that) consider rendering a lower res / shorter version so the download isn't 104MB. I posted on clip of mine (first ever actually) and it ran up 1GB in bandwidth in 4 days on a 15MB file. So consider that i had ~110 downloads so that might hit you up to ~11GB.

Jason

Jason Robinson · November 20th, 2006, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel Boswell

Couple has a unique story. They have known each other since they were 5.

Music was choosen by clients. Its a little too classical for me..but they both played violin so they wanted it.

It also has a short SDE (same day edit) at the end. This full clip was screened at the reception.

http://homepage.mac.com/epiphany2002/timrhea_full.wmv

Ahhh bach Cello. I have used that piece from the same publication (set of complete bach cello suites) for a wedding introduction and it works very well for a formal mood. I might be in the minority of producers because I use almost exclusively classical music. For one, it is easier to get the license for the music, and secondly the library of possible themes and moods is wider than anything else I have seen.

Daniel Boswell · November 20th, 2006, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Robinson

Unless you have monster / unlimited bandwidth (does the .mac account give you that) consider rendering a lower res / shorter version so the download isn't 104MB. I posted on clip of mine (first ever actually) and it ran up 1GB in bandwidth in 4 days on a 15MB file. So consider that i had ~110 downloads so that might hit you up to ~11GB.

Jason

.Mac accounts have unlimited bandwith.

Jason Robinson · November 20th, 2006, 06:26 PM

I work a lot with the Ken Burns effect of slow pans, zooms, across still photos so I liked your style to start with. A few pointers:

1) Crop images that have white borders (probably due to scanning issues)
2) Don't end a zoom / pan before the fade starts. It makes the pan/zoom look a bit unplaned. Either slow the zoom / pan down so that the time needed is filled or start the cut / fade sooner.
3) VERY nice use of dialog / interviews. I like how you have some segments about 20 seconds of just music with the photos before the next interview.
4) The guys voice levels are a bit subdued compared to the background music at times. Consider adjusting the music levels down (slow changes of course) so his dialog is more prominet when compared to the music (specifically around 8:20)
5) I notice that most of the photos immediately before interview footage have a hard cut, and all photo transitiosn are crossfades (my favorite). This ends up making the transition to video very abrupt. Not sure specifically what to offer on that.... possibly a short crossfade (15 frames or less) or a fade to black/white and backup.
6) Most of your still photo effects are zooming in. Consider mixing slow pans or rotations with the zooms. The zoom effect (as others have told me of my sample) can get overused if continually in, in, in.

General comments: Who did the photos of the couple with the nice use of the depth of field (brick wall shot at 13:06). Just curious because I really like that shot. :-)

The couples story is amazing of course, especially considering the time span. Glad they had a love story made because that kind of story just is great for our medium.... a love story movie.

Despite the above comments sounding nit-picky, I loved your story and thought it flowed well. Over all run time is good 17 minutes.

Jason

Maurice O Carroll · November 21st, 2006, 01:28 PM

You've already proven yourself to be a cut above, Daniel, and you've produced some wonderful and memorable video over the past couple of years that I've known you.

For me, this video is your best work to date that you've shared with us... You've moved up a gear and all your clients are lucky people!!!

M

Daniel Boswell · November 21st, 2006, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice O Carroll

You've already proven yourself to be a cut above, Daniel, and you've produced some wonderful and memorable video over the past couple of years that I've known you.

For me, this video is your best work to date that you've shared with us... You've moved up a gear and all your clients are lucky people!!!

M

Is this my man Mo? (thought your last name was Sir?)

Thanks dude..you are too kind.

Maurice O Carroll · November 22nd, 2006, 05:17 AM

Someone else in their infinite wisdom decided my surname was Sirr... and I conveniently hid behind it for awhile because it I found it a tad funny.

Too kind? You know me - love or it hate it I'll say it as I see it.

Mossy

Daniel Boswell · November 22nd, 2006, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maurice O Carroll

Someone else in their infinite wisdom decided my surname was Sirr... and I conveniently hid behind it for awhile because it I found it a tad funny.

Too kind? You know me - love or it hate it I'll say it as I see it.

Mossy

LOL..too funny. Thought was a very "un-Irish" name. :)

David Mathew Bonner · November 25th, 2006, 03:45 AM

pretty slick Dee Boz

Mike F Smith · November 26th, 2006, 08:10 PM

This is a lot of nice work. I do echo what Jason has said. I also was distracted by the background composition of the broll interviews. I didn't like the fireplace mantel right at face level and the round plate later on. I found that distracting.

Mike

Louis Maddalena · November 30th, 2006, 07:13 PM

Very good video!

I have 2 questions:
1) How much did you charge? (if you are willing to share that information)
2) How did you get them to talk in such detail and not just answer your questions out right? (that is a problem I have, no matter I I phrase the question its always a 2 sentence answer)

Daniel Boswell · November 30th, 2006, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis Maddalena

Very good video!

I have 2 questions:
1) How much did you charge? (if you are willing to share that information)
2) How did you get them to talk in such detail and not just answer your questions out right? (that is a problem I have, no matter I I phrase the question its always a 2 sentence answer)

Thanks.

That package was $3500.

I had a really articulate couple I guess. I didn't do anything special other just have a conversation with them.

Waldemar Winkler · December 1st, 2006, 08:36 PM

Clean and simple and to the point. I have always felt the use of still images made so much more visual sense in the summary forms of wedding videos than real time... it gives the viewer time for revisiting memories. In any case you have made a remarkably good blend of past and present. The story is well said.

Dave Lammey · December 3rd, 2006, 06:41 AM

Great job, Daniel, great use of music, timing, etc. $3500 for all of that including SDE and all day wedding coverage? You should have charged at least twice that.

November 19th, 2006, 08:31 PM	#1
Daniel Boswell Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 189	Love Story + SDE Couple has a unique story. They have known each other since they were 5. Music was choosen by clients. Its a little too classical for me..but they both played violin so they wanted it. It also has a short SDE (same day edit) at the end. This full clip was screened at the reception. http://homepage.mac.com/epiphany2002/timrhea_full.wmv __________________ DBoZ

November 20th, 2006, 06:26 PM	#5
Jason Robinson Trustee Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 1,997	Technicals I work a lot with the Ken Burns effect of slow pans, zooms, across still photos so I liked your style to start with. A few pointers: 1) Crop images that have white borders (probably due to scanning issues) 2) Don't end a zoom / pan before the fade starts. It makes the pan/zoom look a bit unplaned. Either slow the zoom / pan down so that the time needed is filled or start the cut / fade sooner. 3) VERY nice use of dialog / interviews. I like how you have some segments about 20 seconds of just music with the photos before the next interview. 4) The guys voice levels are a bit subdued compared to the background music at times. Consider adjusting the music levels down (slow changes of course) so his dialog is more prominet when compared to the music (specifically around 8:20) 5) I notice that most of the photos immediately before interview footage have a hard cut, and all photo transitiosn are crossfades (my favorite). This ends up making the transition to video very abrupt. Not sure specifically what to offer on that.... possibly a short crossfade (15 frames or less) or a fade to black/white and backup. 6) Most of your still photo effects are zooming in. Consider mixing slow pans or rotations with the zooms. The zoom effect (as others have told me of my sample) can get overused if continually in, in, in. General comments: Who did the photos of the couple with the nice use of the depth of field (brick wall shot at 13:06). Just curious because I really like that shot. :-) The couples story is amazing of course, especially considering the time span. Glad they had a love story made because that kind of story just is great for our medium.... a love story movie. Despite the above comments sounding nit-picky, I loved your story and thought it flowed well. Over all run time is good 17 minutes. Jason Last edited by Jason Robinson; November 21st, 2006 at 12:48 PM.

November 25th, 2006, 03:45 AM	#10
David Mathew Bonner Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 156	pretty slick Dee Boz __________________ www.dmbvideo.com

December 1st, 2006, 08:36 PM	#14
Waldemar Winkler Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Durango, Colorado, USA Posts: 711	Clean and simple and to the point. I have always felt the use of still images made so much more visual sense in the summary forms of wedding videos than real time... it gives the viewer time for revisiting memories. In any case you have made a remarkably good blend of past and present. The story is well said. __________________ Waldemar

November 21st, 2006, 01:28 PM	#6
Maurice O Carroll Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 32	You've already proven yourself to be a cut above, Daniel, and you've produced some wonderful and memorable video over the past couple of years that I've known you. For me, this video is your best work to date that you've shared with us... You've moved up a gear and all your clients are lucky people!!! M

November 22nd, 2006, 05:17 AM	#8
Maurice O Carroll Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 32	Someone else in their infinite wisdom decided my surname was Sirr... and I conveniently hid behind it for awhile because it I found it a tad funny. Too kind? You know me - love or it hate it I'll say it as I see it. Mossy

November 26th, 2006, 08:10 PM	#11
Mike F Smith Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 156	This is a lot of nice work. I do echo what Jason has said. I also was distracted by the background composition of the broll interviews. I didn't like the fireplace mantel right at face level and the round plate later on. I found that distracting. Mike

November 30th, 2006, 07:13 PM	#12
Louis Maddalena Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NYC Area. Posts: 550	Very good video! I have 2 questions: 1) How much did you charge? (if you are willing to share that information) 2) How did you get them to talk in such detail and not just answer your questions out right? (that is a problem I have, no matter I I phrase the question its always a 2 sentence answer)

December 3rd, 2006, 06:41 AM	#15
Dave Lammey Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Simsbury, CT Posts: 247	Great job, Daniel, great use of music, timing, etc. $3500 for all of that including SDE and all day wedding coverage? You should have charged at least twice that.