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Marcus Martell · March 24th, 2009, 03:42 PM

How come i can't render the HDV 108050i rendered files with VLC?
I can read em with WMP but it show the videos cropped in 4/3. :(

Gints Klimanis · March 30th, 2009, 01:09 PM

Which version of VLC are you using? Also, post a sample file. I have no trouble reading rendering 1080i60 m2t files with VLC for the last two years.

Rick Diaz · March 30th, 2009, 01:49 PM

Have you set the preferences in VLC properly?

Steve Renouf · March 31st, 2009, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Martell

How come i can't render the HDV 108050i rendered files with VLC?
I can read em with WMP but it show the videos cropped in 4/3. :(

You don't say what format they're rendered in - apparently, cineform codec doesn't play with VLC

Cineform

Gints Klimanis · March 31st, 2009, 12:45 PM

Please post a small portion of your rendered .m2t file so we can try it out.

Marcus Martell · April 1st, 2009, 03:33 PM

Yep Cineform;that's why!
So wich custom render should i set to read my hdv 108050i?

Marcus Martell · April 4th, 2009, 11:36 AM

I want to know which format should i set to have the maximum quality HDV render( so every xp pc could read it).
Thx

have a nice week end

Seth Bloombaum · April 4th, 2009, 04:33 PM

If you're not concerned with Macintosh or Linux viewers, Windows Media Video is very, very good in several ways.

Great codec performance for the bitrate, good rescaling in the player, multibitrate files, good on and off the internet, good automatic codec updates, good penetration with PCs - I'm sure there are some others. Try WMV 9 at perhaps 6Mbps for 1080i.

If you have some control over the PCs that you want to distribute to, Cineform Neo Player is also very good for Cineform codec AVIs, but internet distribution is tough. Do I remember about 28Mbps at medium and 40Mbps at high quality? But great for harddrive playback.

For something that is truely cross-platform/cross-browser, Flash is an excellent choice that Vegas does not handle natively. There are 3 codecs in use - Spark, which is free and greedy for bitrate; VP6 is pretty good, costs several hundred $ USD, but comes with Flash CS3 and Flash CS4; and h.264, great codec, which Vegas can do, but not all viewers can yet handle.

Marcus Martell · April 5th, 2009, 05:44 AM

Ok Seth,thanks a lot!
Listen but what should you choose on the template tools to have the best quality HD rendered video?
I wanted also to know what does"uncompessed default" stands for on the Template tools.
Thx

Marcus Martell · April 5th, 2009, 08:50 AM

I forgot to tell u that WMP plays the hdv video in 4:3 aspect ratio.Suggestions?

Seth Bloombaum · April 5th, 2009, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcus Martell

...what does"uncompessed default" stands for on the Template tools.

There is no "best" format. Even uncompressed is not best in all circumstances. It may have no compression artifacts, but now you have a huge file that is difficult to move between PCs, that won't play back off a CD, that may drop frames off harddrive playback, etc. What we are looking for is "good" for our current distribution.

Uncompressed is used primarily as a digital intermediate format when moving video between vegas and another application, either because we need all that quality and/or we need to preserve an alpha (transparency) channel.

Uncompressed is not a distribution format - even movie theaters that are doing digital projection on large screens are not receiving uncompressed files, they use a JPEG2000-based compression...

Quote:

...what should you choose on the template tools to have the best quality HD rendered video?

For Windows Media 9, try the 8Mbps HD 1080-30p template or the 6 Mbps HD 720-30p template, depending.

Quote:

I forgot to tell u that WMP plays the hdv video in 4:3 aspect ratio.Suggestions?

That will be related to pixel aspect ratio. That should be 1.3333 for HDV 1080, or 1.0 for HDV 720p. See it in File | Render As | Windows Media Video 9 | Custom | Video | Pixel Aspect Ratio. If you start with one of the above templates it should be correctly set.

Marcus Martell · April 5th, 2009, 02:37 PM

Excuse me ,talking about Pal settings?
"For Windows Media 9, try the 8Mbps HD 1080-30p template or the 6 Mbps HD 720-30p template, depending. "
ican't find the solution hd1080-25

Mike Kujbida · April 5th, 2009, 02:47 PM

Marcus, after selecting WMV as the file type, click in the Template box and you'll see 5 Mbps HD 720-25p Video and 6.7 Mbps HD 1080-25p Video options.
Select either of these, click Custom, click in the Template box at the top of the Project tab and you'll see even more options.

Marcus Martell · April 5th, 2009, 03:54 PM

Thank you,really appreciate your suggestions guys!

Marcus Martell · April 6th, 2009, 12:01 AM

Guys just finished to render with the setting WMP9......It is a file of500 kb,how is it possible?
a 11 minutes video rendered in 2 hours and 23 minutes!I think something is wrong.
The same video rendered in cineform:20 minutes.

My pc: 4gb Ram,Nvidia quadro fx 3700,extreme x9000.

March 24th, 2009, 03:42 PM	#1
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Can't read the rendered m2t files with VLC... How come i can't render the HDV 108050i rendered files with VLC? I can read em with WMP but it show the videos cropped in 4/3. :(

March 30th, 2009, 01:09 PM	#2
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Which version of VLC are you using? Also, post a sample file. I have no trouble reading rendering 1080i60 m2t files with VLC for the last two years.

March 30th, 2009, 01:49 PM	#3
Rick Diaz Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 146	Have you set the preferences in VLC properly?

March 31st, 2009, 12:45 PM	#5
Gints Klimanis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,222	Please post a small portion of your rendered .m2t file so we can try it out.

April 1st, 2009, 03:33 PM	#6
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Yep Cineform;that's why! So wich custom render should i set to read my hdv 108050i?

April 4th, 2009, 11:36 AM	#7
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	I want to know which format should i set to have the maximum quality HDV render( so every xp pc could read it). Thx have a nice week end

April 4th, 2009, 04:33 PM	#8
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	If you're not concerned with Macintosh or Linux viewers, Windows Media Video is very, very good in several ways. Great codec performance for the bitrate, good rescaling in the player, multibitrate files, good on and off the internet, good automatic codec updates, good penetration with PCs - I'm sure there are some others. Try WMV 9 at perhaps 6Mbps for 1080i. If you have some control over the PCs that you want to distribute to, Cineform Neo Player is also very good for Cineform codec AVIs, but internet distribution is tough. Do I remember about 28Mbps at medium and 40Mbps at high quality? But great for harddrive playback. For something that is truely cross-platform/cross-browser, Flash is an excellent choice that Vegas does not handle natively. There are 3 codecs in use - Spark, which is free and greedy for bitrate; VP6 is pretty good, costs several hundred $ USD, but comes with Flash CS3 and Flash CS4; and h.264, great codec, which Vegas can do, but not all viewers can yet handle.

April 5th, 2009, 05:44 AM	#9
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Ok Seth,thanks a lot! Listen but what should you choose on the template tools to have the best quality HD rendered video? I wanted also to know what does"uncompessed default" stands for on the Template tools. Thx

April 5th, 2009, 08:50 AM	#10
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	I forgot to tell u that WMP plays the hdv video in 4:3 aspect ratio.Suggestions?

April 5th, 2009, 02:37 PM	#12
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Excuse me ,talking about Pal settings? "For Windows Media 9, try the 8Mbps HD 1080-30p template or the 6 Mbps HD 720-30p template, depending. " ican't find the solution hd1080-25

April 5th, 2009, 02:47 PM	#13
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Marcus, after selecting WMV as the file type, click in the Template box and you'll see 5 Mbps HD 720-25p Video and 6.7 Mbps HD 1080-25p Video options. Select either of these, click Custom, click in the Template box at the top of the Project tab and you'll see even more options.

April 5th, 2009, 03:54 PM	#14
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Thank you,really appreciate your suggestions guys!

April 6th, 2009, 12:01 AM	#15
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Guys just finished to render with the setting WMP9......It is a file of500 kb,how is it possible? a 11 minutes video rendered in 2 hours and 23 minutes!I think something is wrong. The same video rendered in cineform:20 minutes. My pc: 4gb Ram,Nvidia quadro fx 3700,extreme x9000.