Best spent money in NLE or on any book at all at DVinfo.net

Bryan Beasleigh · February 23rd, 2004, 09:54 PM

In the NLE catagory for best money spent.

1. Getting Edward's tips and tricks spiral bound so I can refer to them constantly. Word for word the most valuable book I have.

2. Buying Douglas Spotted Eagle's book. Very well written and very well laid out. About the best I've seen in any manual.

Both men deserve a big thank you. It's obviously a labor of love for both gentlemen.

Thanks guy's

Beas

Edward Troxel · February 23rd, 2004, 10:24 PM

Thanks for the kind words. They are much appreciated.

Marcia Janine Galles · February 23rd, 2004, 11:13 PM

Ditto! I have all Edward's newsletters in the same mondo notebook that I've placed the printed out Vegas manual in (I personally hate PDF versions of these things... I like reading curled up by the fire). And I agree that Douglas Spotted Eagle's book is a solid reference as well. But now what do I do with my shelves full of Avid references/books/manuals? ;-)

Rob Lohman · February 24th, 2004, 05:40 AM

Have you also added this to your collection, Bryan?

Edward Troxel · February 24th, 2004, 09:54 AM

That is a good addition, Rob. There's also many more good tutorials scattered around the web. Some are fairly easy to find - some more difficult. Here's a few more links to tutorial sites.

Sundance Media Group
Tutorials by Marty Hedler
BillyBoy Vegas Tutorials

Bryan Beasleigh · February 24th, 2004, 10:15 AM

As a matter of fact Rob ,yes I have.

The cost of binding pages and even laminating often used pages is minimal.

An aside:
I bought Vegas before Christmas and hadn't actual started to use it right away. The first project was rough and Edwards Tips N Tricks saved the day.

I finished the first project last week. The learning curve for vegas is steep and it's not intuitive like premiere but it sure is powerful.

Bottom line is , I could do the same project in less than a day once i got through the learning process.

Of course, Douglas's book arrived the day after i finished :)))

Glen Elliott · February 24th, 2004, 12:17 PM

<<<-- The learning curve for vegas is steep and it's not intuitive like premiere but it sure is powerful.

-->>>

I felt the same thing about the learning curve in Vegas- but in all honestly the only thing that made it difficult was the fact I was coming from Premiere. If I had started out learning Vegas and not Premiere it would have been so much easier. I had to *unlearn* many things.
Lastly I have to completly disagree with you about it "not being intuitive like premiere". Once the workflow is learned it's the absolute other way around- Vegas is *much* more intuitive than Premiere. The concepts that were difficult to get used to at first make so much sense now- all the operations are quite logical. Premiere is the poison that made it difficult. lol

Barry Rivadue · February 24th, 2004, 12:32 PM

This is a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a good ACID 4.0 tutorial or tips area? I'll be incorporating ACID into my Vegas program, and I always need all the help I can get. :D

Edward Troxel · February 24th, 2004, 12:51 PM

There's always the main Acid forum on the Sony site.

Barry Rivadue · February 24th, 2004, 05:43 PM

I knew there was an obvious solution out there. :D Thanks!

Bryan Beasleigh · February 25th, 2004, 12:26 PM

Vegas is easier to use once you learn it.

Edward Troxel · February 25th, 2004, 01:35 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bryan Beasleigh : Vegas is easier to use once you learn it. -->>>

Couldn't that be said about everything?

Jim Quinlan · February 25th, 2004, 01:43 PM

Where can I find Edward's Tips and tricks. Sounds intersting.

Edward Troxel · February 25th, 2004, 03:10 PM

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Andre Andreev · March 1st, 2004, 02:01 PM

The vegas manual is very well written (use the search tool, Luke!). Also, the 24p white paper is a must for all the 24p shooters (mainly the DVX100/100A lucky bastards).

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...p2.asp?DID=441

Oh, and one more thing. You have to USE the application.

Edit 2-3 one-minute projects and you'll get an understanding of what's what and more importantly, you'll know what you don't know. The Vegas Shortcuts PDF (link is on this page somewhere) contains a very brief workflow recommendation which is excellent.

But most importantly, create a few small, doable projects you feel passionate about and you'll get beyond the chaotic state of a new user who does not know where to begin and is trying to learn by reading Everything.

Have fun!

-- Andre

February 23rd, 2004, 09:54 PM	#1
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Best spent money in NLE or on any book at all In the NLE catagory for best money spent. 1. Getting Edward's tips and tricks spiral bound so I can refer to them constantly. Word for word the most valuable book I have. 2. Buying Douglas Spotted Eagle's book. Very well written and very well laid out. About the best I've seen in any manual. Both men deserve a big thank you. It's obviously a labor of love for both gentlemen. Thanks guy's Beas

February 24th, 2004, 05:40 AM	#4
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February 25th, 2004, 01:43 PM	#13
Jim Quinlan Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 177	Where can I find Edward's Tips and tricks. Sounds intersting. __________________ Jim

March 1st, 2004, 02:01 PM	#15
Andre Andreev Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 98	Stating the obvious The vegas manual is very well written (use the search tool, Luke!). Also, the 24p white paper is a must for all the 24p shooters (mainly the DVX100/100A lucky bastards). http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.co...p2.asp?DID=441 Oh, and one more thing. You have to USE the application. Edit 2-3 one-minute projects and you'll get an understanding of what's what and more importantly, you'll know what you don't know. The Vegas Shortcuts PDF (link is on this page somewhere) contains a very brief workflow recommendation which is excellent. But most importantly, create a few small, doable projects you feel passionate about and you'll get beyond the chaotic state of a new user who does not know where to begin and is trying to learn by reading Everything. Have fun! -- Andre

February 23rd, 2004, 10:24 PM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Thanks for the kind words. They are much appreciated.

February 23rd, 2004, 11:13 PM	#3
Marcia Janine Galles Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Camarillo, CA Posts: 340	Ditto! I have all Edward's newsletters in the same mondo notebook that I've placed the printed out Vegas manual in (I personally hate PDF versions of these things... I like reading curled up by the fire). And I agree that Douglas Spotted Eagle's book is a solid reference as well. But now what do I do with my shelves full of Avid references/books/manuals? ;-)

February 24th, 2004, 09:54 AM	#5
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	That is a good addition, Rob. There's also many more good tutorials scattered around the web. Some are fairly easy to find - some more difficult. Here's a few more links to tutorial sites. Sundance Media Group Tutorials by Marty Hedler BillyBoy Vegas Tutorials

February 24th, 2004, 10:15 AM	#6
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	As a matter of fact Rob ,yes I have. The cost of binding pages and even laminating often used pages is minimal. An aside: I bought Vegas before Christmas and hadn't actual started to use it right away. The first project was rough and Edwards Tips N Tricks saved the day. I finished the first project last week. The learning curve for vegas is steep and it's not intuitive like premiere but it sure is powerful. Bottom line is , I could do the same project in less than a day once i got through the learning process. Of course, Douglas's book arrived the day after i finished :)))

February 24th, 2004, 12:17 PM	#7
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	<<<-- The learning curve for vegas is steep and it's not intuitive like premiere but it sure is powerful. -->>> I felt the same thing about the learning curve in Vegas- but in all honestly the only thing that made it difficult was the fact I was coming from Premiere. If I had started out learning Vegas and not Premiere it would have been so much easier. I had to unlearn many things. Lastly I have to completly disagree with you about it "not being intuitive like premiere". Once the workflow is learned it's the absolute other way around- Vegas is much more intuitive than Premiere. The concepts that were difficult to get used to at first make so much sense now- all the operations are quite logical. Premiere is the poison that made it difficult. lol

February 24th, 2004, 12:32 PM	#8
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	This is a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a good ACID 4.0 tutorial or tips area? I'll be incorporating ACID into my Vegas program, and I always need all the help I can get. :D

February 24th, 2004, 12:51 PM	#9
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	There's always the main Acid forum on the Sony site.

February 24th, 2004, 05:43 PM	#10
Barry Rivadue Major Player Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 508	I knew there was an obvious solution out there. :D Thanks!

February 25th, 2004, 12:26 PM	#11
Bryan Beasleigh Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,922	Vegas is easier to use once you learn it.

February 25th, 2004, 01:35 PM	#12
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Bryan Beasleigh : Vegas is easier to use once you learn it. -->>> Couldn't that be said about everything?

February 25th, 2004, 03:10 PM	#14
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas Tips, Tricks, and Scripts