Vegas .avi ugliness. What am I doing wrong at DVinfo.net

Roger Shealy · April 23rd, 2009, 05:46 AM

I'm working on a project where I shot in 30F (XHA1) and it renders great to wmv. I have similar examples in 24F as well. I was wanting to render to avi to xfer to another system so I rendered to HDV 720-30P intermediate (or HDV 1080-24P intermediate), and I get speckled, streaked images (see attachment). How do I avoid this and get a lossless image to xfer in Vegas?

Roger Shealy · April 29th, 2009, 04:41 AM

Anybody out there some great input?

John Peterson · April 29th, 2009, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Shealy

Anybody out there some great input?

It looks like interlacing artifacts to me.

Were you resizing?

What were your project properties and render setting?

This may be helpful:

Real time video scaling

Try a rough cut in m2t and then render using the cineform video for windows template. Keep the original full frame size. You can always re frame later.

John

Roger Shealy · April 30th, 2009, 04:59 PM

The project was 720-30P and I was rendering to 1080-30P intermediate HDV avi. For some reason Vegas doesn't have a 1080-30P project setting, but it does have 1080-24??

The Cineform for windows you mentioned, that doesn't seem to be a render option in Vegas 8. Is that a different piece of software?

Ike Tamigian · April 30th, 2009, 05:39 PM

Choose Custom for avi and in the Video window choose Cineform from the "Video format" dropdown list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Shealy

The project was 720-30P and I was rendering to 1080-30P intermediate HDV avi. For some reason Vegas doesn't have a 1080-30P project setting, but it does have 1080-24??

The Cineform for windows you mentioned, that doesn't seem to be a render option in Vegas 8. Is that a different piece of software?

John Peterson · May 5th, 2009, 08:03 AM

Roger,

Did you ever resolve this problem?

John

Roger Shealy · May 5th, 2009, 10:00 AM

I haven't rendered with your settings yet. I hope to give it a try tonight or Thursday. I may have another "out" by rendering to AVC and sending that to the other party, even if the avi fix doesn't work.

Thanks for your help and following up!

Ron Evans · May 5th, 2009, 01:47 PM

That actually looks like lost data. Does it happen every time in the same places? If it was coming from tape I would say it was a dropout. Are you using an external drive for this?

Ron Evans

Roger Shealy · May 5th, 2009, 02:30 PM

Ron,

It's not tape, items in the timeline as well as renders to wmv, avc, mpeg look great.

Ron Evans · May 5th, 2009, 04:33 PM

I realized its no tape but the image looks just like a tape dropout caused by loss of data. That's why I asked if it was going to an external drive that was not fast enough to record the data rate.

Ron Evans

Roger Shealy · May 5th, 2009, 06:31 PM

John,

The problem still continues. I get good renders in other formats, but HDV .avi, even with your instructions, yields yucko.

April 23rd, 2009, 05:46 AM	#1
Roger Shealy Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 772	Vegas .avi ugliness. What am I doing wrong I'm working on a project where I shot in 30F (XHA1) and it renders great to wmv. I have similar examples in 24F as well. I was wanting to render to avi to xfer to another system so I rendered to HDV 720-30P intermediate (or HDV 1080-24P intermediate), and I get speckled, streaked images (see attachment). How do I avoid this and get a lossless image to xfer in Vegas? Attached Thumbnails

April 29th, 2009, 04:41 AM	#2
Roger Shealy Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 772	Anybody out there some great input?

April 30th, 2009, 04:59 PM	#4
Roger Shealy Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 772	The project was 720-30P and I was rendering to 1080-30P intermediate HDV avi. For some reason Vegas doesn't have a 1080-30P project setting, but it does have 1080-24?? The Cineform for windows you mentioned, that doesn't seem to be a render option in Vegas 8. Is that a different piece of software?

May 5th, 2009, 08:03 AM	#6
John Peterson Major Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Monroe, NY Posts: 703	Roger, Did you ever resolve this problem? John

May 5th, 2009, 10:00 AM	#7
Roger Shealy Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 772	I haven't rendered with your settings yet. I hope to give it a try tonight or Thursday. I may have another "out" by rendering to AVC and sending that to the other party, even if the avi fix doesn't work. Thanks for your help and following up!

May 5th, 2009, 01:47 PM	#8
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	That actually looks like lost data. Does it happen every time in the same places? If it was coming from tape I would say it was a dropout. Are you using an external drive for this? Ron Evans

May 5th, 2009, 02:30 PM	#9
Roger Shealy Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 772	Ron, It's not tape, items in the timeline as well as renders to wmv, avc, mpeg look great.

May 5th, 2009, 04:33 PM	#10
Ron Evans Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 4,220	I realized its no tape but the image looks just like a tape dropout caused by loss of data. That's why I asked if it was going to an external drive that was not fast enough to record the data rate. Ron Evans

May 5th, 2009, 06:31 PM	#11
Roger Shealy Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fayetteville, GA Posts: 772	John, The problem still continues. I get good renders in other formats, but HDV .avi, even with your instructions, yields yucko.