What's the Verdict on Vegas 9 ? at DVinfo.net

Paul Kepen · June 16th, 2009, 10:55 PM

Currently using Vegas 8 Pro. Is it worth upgrading to V9 at this time? What does it do that V-8 doesn't ? (yes I know it has the 2nd monitor, but I can live without that).
I am thinking of waiting for V10, unless some one can tell me that there is a great performace boost or feature set in V9 that I am unaware of. I tried doing a search, but got almost every thread with V9 in it, so Thanks in advance for your helpful opinions - PK

Edward Troxel · June 17th, 2009, 06:50 AM

Vegas 8 has the "second monitor" as you put it. It's the TRIMMER. It's just docked differently in 9 by default than it is in 8. In fact, 8.0c added many of the new trimmer features now found in 9.

You could look over my April 09 newsletter which lists the major new features. Then you can make a better informed decision as to whether or not to upgrade.

Yang Wen · June 17th, 2009, 09:20 AM

Has anyone figured a solution for the decreased preview window frame rate in V9? I've disabled the automatic quality setting in V9 and that has made a little bit difference but my playback frame rate is still only 50% of the playback performance of version 8, for the exact same project. By anyone's definition, that is unusable..

Bill Ravens · June 17th, 2009, 10:22 AM

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Yang Wen · June 17th, 2009, 10:24 AM

Thanks Bill! I'll try that out tonight!

Paul Kepen · June 17th, 2009, 02:07 PM

Thanks Edward, I'll check that out this evening.

On a different note; I am having problems with DVDA. My AC3 audio sounds fine when played in VLC media player. It was encoded with V8, as was the Mpeg-2 Video using the BluRay Mpeg-2 encoding preset. The problem is, that in DVDA, almost all of the sound is in the right audio channel. If you look in the timeline you can even see the volume bars in the left channel are diminutive by comparison. What is causing this? How do you correct it? I can't seem to find anyway to adjust channel volume in DVDA. I should add, that the .ac3 audio is in 5.1 surround format. Thanks for any info - PK

Steven Thomas · June 17th, 2009, 05:34 PM

Nice find!
Thanks

Yang Wen · June 17th, 2009, 07:26 PM

Thanks Bill! that fixed my playback issue. I also found this page which seems to address the same issue but with a different resolution. Weird... http://www.custcenter.com/cgi-bin/so...ted=1242423710

Now rendering to Sony AVC and see if it crashes like it always does in Vegas 8c...

Kipjaz Savoie · June 18th, 2009, 11:03 AM

A big issue for me is the lack of Frameserver compatibility in Vegas9. I relied heavily on that in Vegas 8 and am very disappointed that I can no longer use it. Why this functionality isn't built in to Vegas to begin with is beyond me... Anyway, I'm still hoping for a solution to come along.

Mike Kujbida · June 18th, 2009, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kipjaz Savoie

A big issue for me is the lack of Frameserver compatibility in Vegas9.

Be patient for a bit longer.
It was reported on the Sony Vegas Pro forum (May 30 of this year to be precise) that Satish is currently working on the Vegas 9 Frameserver.

Kipjaz Savoie · June 18th, 2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Kujbida

Be patient for a bit longer.
It was reported on the Sony Vegas Pro forum (May 30 of this year to be precise) that Satish is currently working on the Vegas 9 Frameserver.

I'd somehow missed that, I hope it's true! There's no mention on the DebugMode home page that I could see. Really it can't come soon enough as it's making my work-flow significantly less streamlined without Frameserving. If I were Sony I'd buy the code from Satish and implement this from within Vegas. Does Sony have a suggestion box? ; )

John Wiley · June 25th, 2009, 06:25 PM

I've downloaded and have been using the trial of Vegas Pro 9 for about a week now. I've been doing a bit of playing getting to know it (previously using FCP on another machine) to see if I like it. However I'm having problems with it crashing fairly regularly, often when I hit Ctrl+Z to undo. Has anyone had any problems with this in the full version? My laptop is well within the recommended specs so I don't think that is the problem.

Thanks in advance
John

Jeff Harper · June 26th, 2009, 08:19 AM

For me, Vegas 9 is terrible, bad, crappy.

I've found it's timeline performance is the worst I've seen. I just installed Windows 7. Initially Vegas 9 64 bit Vegas 9 ran a bit better than it did on Vista, but 32 bit is bad.

Others say it works fine for them. I run a i7 processor, lots of ram, and the only program I have that gives me issues is Vegas 9.

Adobe Master Collection runs perfectly, and that says a lot about the state of my PC, as that collection of programs can be pretty buggy.

Perrone Ford · June 26th, 2009, 09:09 AM

There are a number of compelling features that make it a "must buy" for me. Several things I opined about on the Sony Pro forums got included including DPX and OpenEXR, REDCode compatibility, and XDCAMEX native compatibility.

I'll live with the growing pains for a while.

It's still missing some critical items (especially for broadcast work) but is really shaking off it's also-ran status to play near the front of the pack. I just wish Sony and Avid could bury the hatchet on the MXF format and read each others formats. That would make me VERY happy and keep me from jumping through dumb hoops every time I wanted to share something with the local TV stations.

Gene Gajewski · June 27th, 2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Harper

For me, Vegas 9 is terrible, bad, crappy.

I've found it's timeline performance is the worst I've seen. I just installed Windows 7. Initially Vegas 9 64 bit Vegas 9 ran a bit better than it did on Vista, but 32 bit is bad.

Others say it works fine for them. I run a i7 processor, lots of ram, and the only program I have that gives me issues is Vegas 9.

Adobe Master Collection runs perfectly, and that says a lot about the state of my PC, as that collection of programs can be pretty buggy.

Timeline performance? What's that?

Certainly, it can't be the UI of the timeline.

Adobe apps are famous for being obtuse. But oh, when you finally get used to them you get to enter the priesthood - and you must cling to your obtuse app like a unix programmer to emacs, lest someone pull aside the curtain and find out it's just another NLE, abeit with a crotchedy UI.

Adobe bombs out all the time. Vista's got it's problems, but it don't take no Data Execution Protection lip from anybody, and Adobe's no exception.

I'm getting ready to try Win 7 myself.

June 16th, 2009, 10:55 PM	#1
Paul Kepen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis Minnesota Posts: 347	What's the Verdict on Vegas 9 ? Currently using Vegas 8 Pro. Is it worth upgrading to V9 at this time? What does it do that V-8 doesn't ? (yes I know it has the 2nd monitor, but I can live without that). I am thinking of waiting for V10, unless some one can tell me that there is a great performace boost or feature set in V9 that I am unaware of. I tried doing a search, but got almost every thread with V9 in it, so Thanks in advance for your helpful opinions - PK

June 17th, 2009, 06:50 AM	#2
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Vegas 8 has the "second monitor" as you put it. It's the TRIMMER. It's just docked differently in 9 by default than it is in 8. In fact, 8.0c added many of the new trimmer features now found in 9. You could look over my April 09 newsletter which lists the major new features. Then you can make a better informed decision as to whether or not to upgrade. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

June 26th, 2009, 09:09 AM	#14
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	There are a number of compelling features that make it a "must buy" for me. Several things I opined about on the Sony Pro forums got included including DPX and OpenEXR, REDCode compatibility, and XDCAMEX native compatibility. I'll live with the growing pains for a while. It's still missing some critical items (especially for broadcast work) but is really shaking off it's also-ran status to play near the front of the pack. I just wish Sony and Avid could bury the hatchet on the MXF format and read each others formats. That would make me VERY happy and keep me from jumping through dumb hoops every time I wanted to share something with the local TV stations. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

June 17th, 2009, 09:20 AM	#3
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Has anyone figured a solution for the decreased preview window frame rate in V9? I've disabled the automatic quality setting in V9 and that has made a little bit difference but my playback frame rate is still only 50% of the playback performance of version 8, for the exact same project. By anyone's definition, that is unusable..

June 17th, 2009, 10:22 AM	#4
Bill Ravens Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: santa fe, nm Posts: 3,264 Images: 10	Sony Creative Software - Forums - Vegas Pro - Video Messages

June 17th, 2009, 10:24 AM	#5
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Thanks Bill! I'll try that out tonight!

June 17th, 2009, 02:07 PM	#6
Paul Kepen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Minneapolis Minnesota Posts: 347	Thanks Edward, I'll check that out this evening. On a different note; I am having problems with DVDA. My AC3 audio sounds fine when played in VLC media player. It was encoded with V8, as was the Mpeg-2 Video using the BluRay Mpeg-2 encoding preset. The problem is, that in DVDA, almost all of the sound is in the right audio channel. If you look in the timeline you can even see the volume bars in the left channel are diminutive by comparison. What is causing this? How do you correct it? I can't seem to find anyway to adjust channel volume in DVDA. I should add, that the .ac3 audio is in 5.1 surround format. Thanks for any info - PK

June 17th, 2009, 05:34 PM	#7
Steven Thomas Trustee Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,896	Nice find! Thanks

June 17th, 2009, 07:26 PM	#8
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Thanks Bill! that fixed my playback issue. I also found this page which seems to address the same issue but with a different resolution. Weird... http://www.custcenter.com/cgi-bin/so...ted=1242423710 Now rendering to Sony AVC and see if it crashes like it always does in Vegas 8c...

June 18th, 2009, 11:03 AM	#9
Kipjaz Savoie Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 35	A big issue for me is the lack of Frameserver compatibility in Vegas9. I relied heavily on that in Vegas 8 and am very disappointed that I can no longer use it. Why this functionality isn't built in to Vegas to begin with is beyond me... Anyway, I'm still hoping for a solution to come along.

June 25th, 2009, 06:25 PM	#12
John Wiley Trustee Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Byron Bay, Australia Posts: 1,155	I've downloaded and have been using the trial of Vegas Pro 9 for about a week now. I've been doing a bit of playing getting to know it (previously using FCP on another machine) to see if I like it. However I'm having problems with it crashing fairly regularly, often when I hit Ctrl+Z to undo. Has anyone had any problems with this in the full version? My laptop is well within the recommended specs so I don't think that is the problem. Thanks in advance John

June 26th, 2009, 08:19 AM	#13
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	For me, Vegas 9 is terrible, bad, crappy. I've found it's timeline performance is the worst I've seen. I just installed Windows 7. Initially Vegas 9 64 bit Vegas 9 ran a bit better than it did on Vista, but 32 bit is bad. Others say it works fine for them. I run a i7 processor, lots of ram, and the only program I have that gives me issues is Vegas 9. Adobe Master Collection runs perfectly, and that says a lot about the state of my PC, as that collection of programs can be pretty buggy.