Do You Use More Than One Computer For Editing?

Edward Troxel · June 30th, 2005, 07:36 AM

Yes it is possible to force a specific drive letter (for example, you could use "V:" to specify it was your video drive)

Many people have used USB for capturing when having a conflict via firewire. It will take more CPU and I'm not sure how much that would affect DV Rack. I know it should work fine with Scenalyzer Live.

Test it out with DV Rack and let us know how it works. My gut feeling is that it should work fine.

Ian Stark · June 30th, 2005, 07:48 AM

Thanks again, Edward.

I will certainly report back although it may take a while as my laptop is being custom built by Alienware. I believe it has pretty good horsepower (3.4GHz P4, 2Gb RAM, 256 Mb graphics) so hopefully all will be well.

I don't possess DV Rack yet so I will also check out Scenalyzer Live.

Looking forward to the Kids in Pictures (I think you called it?) article.

Best,

Ian . . .

Edward Troxel · June 30th, 2005, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian Stark

Looking forward to the Kids in Pictures (I think you called it?) article.

Should be ready later today or tomorrow.

Jerry Waters · June 30th, 2005, 03:44 PM

As I understand the Sony license, you can have two copies - one laptop and another desktop - and you are within the license if you only use one or the other (no one else using the other). You could use one Vegas on both machines even if one is operating as a render machine to the other.

About SAN/NAS like system: This sounds interesting to me. I would like to shoot stuff using HDV Rack with external drives, connect them to my edit computer as part of the SATA already on there. I wasn't aware that was possible since I'm just now getting into these big files HDV entails. Could it be set up that way? How? Thanks for the info.

Van Lam · June 30th, 2005, 06:56 PM

I've been reading up on external SATA drives, what do you pro's think of them? Are they worth switching to?

Gary Kleiner · June 30th, 2005, 11:42 PM

USB 2 is fine. In fact it's a bit faster than firewire.

To have your drive show up with the same letter, you just set it in the Disk Management section of Computer Management (it's in Administrative Tools).
Right-click and Change Drive Letter and Paths.

Gary

Peter Jefferson · July 1st, 2005, 12:01 PM

2 machines.. both desktop.. both a lil slow by todays standards but theyre earning tehir keep so they stay until dual dual core untis are reasonabley costed... i give it 6 months.. lol

machine 1 is running a 160gb system drive
40gb for boot sector, 20 gb for games and the rest is for video

it also houses another 160gb meida drive.

This machines sole purpose is to capture footage (were talking average 10hours per job) and be a drafting machine.
All rough cuts are done on this.

theyre then transported to the main finishing machine using a now dead Lacie removable firewire drive.. the drive works, i jsut need a new case..
Either way, i save the project with the media onto this ready for transport.

This finisher houses
80gb system drive

120gb music/CG/GFX/Stock

2x120gb project storage drives (all actual projects are set up here, any scans, titles client info etc is saved with their projects)
One of these also acts as a cahce for any app that requires a cache area (nero, Architect, vegas prerenders, etc etc)

2x200gb Raw Media Project drives (capturing or storage of material from draft machine)

1x 200gb "Render to" Mastering drive

These mashines are not networked coz i cant be bothered anymore..

Don Donatello · July 1st, 2005, 12:22 PM

have 6 computers networked here ... 2 are laptops so sometimes they are off the network ...
tend to edited on DELL desktop w/3x400gig hd's and both laptops .. been editing on laptop more lately using wireless to outline/rough-cut projects then will use hardwire to fine cut.

Kevin Kimmell · July 7th, 2005, 11:59 AM

I'm currently on the Desktop/Laptop setup too. Mainly I use the laptop in the field and on the road and the desktop when I'm in the SOHO. I've got 3 external hardrives of varying sizes all of which tend to get full around project time...

I've been looking into this Buffalo Terabyte NAS solution. Is anyone familiar with their products? I'm not a big fan of Lacie for various reasons (not the least of which is cost/MB).

Here's the unit that's able to handle a Terabyte without RAID or less with the different raid solutions. What I really like is that I can add additional USB externals to it to make it share more space...

http://www.buffalotech.com/products/...&categoryid=19

Peter Jefferson · July 8th, 2005, 10:31 PM

"I'm not a big fan of Lacie for various reasons (not the least of which is cost/MB)."

i hear ya mate.. when i was supplying these, people would bring them back with HW striping and/or interface issues. from here we would try to salveage waht we could, and not even Lacie bothered to attempt to salvage any work made... which isnt good considering the main use of these drives is for media storage.

I recently had a Lacie fail on me and i lost a project which as actaully due for delivery this week. The interface shit itself, then the HW stripe followed but it was too late to remove teh drive by then. Once the striping dies, the drive was inaccessabe and the volume index got corrupted. I ended up having to remove teh drive and run a program called getdataback and used it for extraction. i then went out and bought a new enclosure and hopefully this wont die as the Lacie one did...

Not impressed i have to say..

June 30th, 2005, 07:36 AM	#16
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Yes it is possible to force a specific drive letter (for example, you could use "V:" to specify it was your video drive) Many people have used USB for capturing when having a conflict via firewire. It will take more CPU and I'm not sure how much that would affect DV Rack. I know it should work fine with Scenalyzer Live. Test it out with DV Rack and let us know how it works. My gut feeling is that it should work fine. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

June 30th, 2005, 07:48 AM	#17
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Thanks again, Edward. I will certainly report back although it may take a while as my laptop is being custom built by Alienware. I believe it has pretty good horsepower (3.4GHz P4, 2Gb RAM, 256 Mb graphics) so hopefully all will be well. I don't possess DV Rack yet so I will also check out Scenalyzer Live. Looking forward to the Kids in Pictures (I think you called it?) article. Best, Ian . . . __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

June 30th, 2005, 03:44 PM	#19
Jerry Waters Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 136	As I understand the Sony license, you can have two copies - one laptop and another desktop - and you are within the license if you only use one or the other (no one else using the other). You could use one Vegas on both machines even if one is operating as a render machine to the other. About SAN/NAS like system: This sounds interesting to me. I would like to shoot stuff using HDV Rack with external drives, connect them to my edit computer as part of the SATA already on there. I wasn't aware that was possible since I'm just now getting into these big files HDV entails. Could it be set up that way? How? Thanks for the info. __________________ Jerry Waters Arize Productions

July 7th, 2005, 11:59 AM	#24
Kevin Kimmell Major Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 209	Buffalo anyone? I'm currently on the Desktop/Laptop setup too. Mainly I use the laptop in the field and on the road and the desktop when I'm in the SOHO. I've got 3 external hardrives of varying sizes all of which tend to get full around project time... I've been looking into this Buffalo Terabyte NAS solution. Is anyone familiar with their products? I'm not a big fan of Lacie for various reasons (not the least of which is cost/MB). Here's the unit that's able to handle a Terabyte without RAID or less with the different raid solutions. What I really like is that I can add additional USB externals to it to make it share more space... http://www.buffalotech.com/products/...&categoryid=19

June 30th, 2005, 06:56 PM	#20
Van Lam Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Marin, CA Posts: 35	I've been reading up on external SATA drives, what do you pro's think of them? Are they worth switching to?

June 30th, 2005, 11:42 PM	#21
Gary Kleiner Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 166	USB 2 is fine. In fact it's a bit faster than firewire. To have your drive show up with the same letter, you just set it in the Disk Management section of Computer Management (it's in Administrative Tools). Right-click and Change Drive Letter and Paths. Gary

July 1st, 2005, 12:01 PM	#22
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	2 machines.. both desktop.. both a lil slow by todays standards but theyre earning tehir keep so they stay until dual dual core untis are reasonabley costed... i give it 6 months.. lol machine 1 is running a 160gb system drive 40gb for boot sector, 20 gb for games and the rest is for video it also houses another 160gb meida drive. This machines sole purpose is to capture footage (were talking average 10hours per job) and be a drafting machine. All rough cuts are done on this. theyre then transported to the main finishing machine using a now dead Lacie removable firewire drive.. the drive works, i jsut need a new case.. Either way, i save the project with the media onto this ready for transport. This finisher houses 80gb system drive 120gb music/CG/GFX/Stock 2x120gb project storage drives (all actual projects are set up here, any scans, titles client info etc is saved with their projects) One of these also acts as a cahce for any app that requires a cache area (nero, Architect, vegas prerenders, etc etc) 2x200gb Raw Media Project drives (capturing or storage of material from draft machine) 1x 200gb "Render to" Mastering drive These mashines are not networked coz i cant be bothered anymore..

July 1st, 2005, 12:22 PM	#23
Don Donatello Hawaiian Shirt Mogul Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: northern cailfornia Posts: 1,261	have 6 computers networked here ... 2 are laptops so sometimes they are off the network ... tend to edited on DELL desktop w/3x400gig hd's and both laptops .. been editing on laptop more lately using wireless to outline/rough-cut projects then will use hardwire to fine cut.

July 8th, 2005, 10:31 PM	#25
Peter Jefferson Inner Circle Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Aus Posts: 3,884	"I'm not a big fan of Lacie for various reasons (not the least of which is cost/MB)." i hear ya mate.. when i was supplying these, people would bring them back with HW striping and/or interface issues. from here we would try to salveage waht we could, and not even Lacie bothered to attempt to salvage any work made... which isnt good considering the main use of these drives is for media storage. I recently had a Lacie fail on me and i lost a project which as actaully due for delivery this week. The interface shit itself, then the HW stripe followed but it was too late to remove teh drive by then. Once the striping dies, the drive was inaccessabe and the volume index got corrupted. I ended up having to remove teh drive and run a program called getdataback and used it for extraction. i then went out and bought a new enclosure and hopefully this wont die as the Lacie one did... Not impressed i have to say..