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Zdravko Jancevski December 21st, 2005 10:57 AM

Clouds,Rain,Baloons...Plugin
 
I want to add some video filters that simulates clouds, rain, baloons or something to my video clip. I can't find such plugin. Help.
Regards.

Edward Troxel December 21st, 2005 11:39 AM

You can look at the Generated Media in Vegas but you may be better off looking at a particle generation program such as Particle Illusion.

Edward Troxel December 21st, 2005 11:41 AM

Realistically, you should have done two renders - 1 for the first half and 1 for the second half. Assuming that you, instead, have one large file, you might look at a program such as Womble that can split an MPEG2 file without re-rendering.

If you haven't rendered yet, just create a selection area over the first half and render that selection area. Now create a selection area over the second half and render that selection area.

Joachim Fainberg December 21st, 2005 02:37 PM

Video Output FX in Vegas 6 acting weird
 
Hi!

I recently began using Vegas 6 instead of version 5 of the program. I haven't noticed much differences yet, but the first thing that I discovered, is that when I played back a film in Vegas 6, that I had created in Vegas 5, the video output fx did not move anymore. (I have some film effects (dust, and so on)) In Vegas 5, they move, in Vegas 6, they stay still; not only in the preview window, but also after rendering. What's curious, is that I tested with a new project. I created a credit roll first, then inserted a movie clip. The video fx would move when the credit roll was playing, but when the movie clip began, it froze. (both in the preview window and after rendering)...

Have I missed something here?

Thanks in advance!

Best regards,
Joachim

Matt Brabender December 21st, 2005 03:28 PM

hehe - well there you go

go here:
http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/
download it - it's free - sometimes I use it to go from vegas to AE if I don't want to render out a big uncompressed avi file

Edward Troxel December 21st, 2005 03:30 PM

What version of Vegas 6 are you running? If you're not on 6.0c, try upgrading to that.

Colin Rayner December 21st, 2005 07:47 PM

Key frames in Text media window
 
I am struggling with this and am trying to do a simple (seemingly) list of text one line appearing a few seconds after the next. Maybe i can't get my head around it all, I don't know. Any tutorials out there that could help me, I could do it by creating several individual events and just add the next line after copying and pasteing I know, but would like to use the keyframes, that's what they are there for aren't they......
Thanks for any help.

Matt Brabender December 21st, 2005 07:53 PM

um ... kind of ... but not really
rule of thumb - do it the easy way

keyframes are great if you want to animate the text in some way - for example - expanding and softening the shadow as the text gets bigger to give it a real three dimensional look

but as far as having text appear at different times, I honestly think you're wasting your time doing it with keyframes.
I mean, that's what NLE does - it makes different events appear at different times - video, text, generated media - they are all events

So I would continue with creating different events.

Colin Rayner December 21st, 2005 07:55 PM

Right on, I'll stick with what I know,
Thanks for that!

Edward Troxel December 21st, 2005 08:28 PM

You can do this but you need to start at the END. First of all, type in ALL the lines that you want at the end. Now set the ending keyframe. Now go backwards to where the previous keyframe should be and remove the text from last line but DO NOT REMOVE THE LINE - just the text. Continue going backwards and deleting the text off the lines. In the end, you will get lines of text appearing.

Giuseppe Palumbo December 22nd, 2005 12:04 AM

Mixing Widescreen and 4:3 footage?
 
So tomorrow, i'm shooting my first music video with the Xl2. I was going to use 16:9 for the video but i have a few clips that are 4:3 and wondering if its possible to use them. What manipulations would i have to make to the clips? Should i just not even use them at all?

Takis Takop December 22nd, 2005 12:42 AM

thank you very much for your answers

Joachim Fainberg December 22nd, 2005 03:29 AM

I was using build 84.

Thank you very much! I am at this moment downloading the 6.0c update and while checking the release notes, I found this under 6.0b's video fixes:
"A bug that prevented animation of the Film Effects plug-in has been fixed."

Perfect! Thanks again,

Best regards,
Joachim

Guy Bruner December 22nd, 2005 07:04 AM

You can drop them on the timeline with your widescreen project. Vegas will pillarbox them (black bars left and right). Or, you can pan/crop the 4:3 to 16:9. There is a preset in pan/crop for this.

Ty Chu December 22nd, 2005 09:24 AM

Sony Vegas 6.0 + DVD configuration ?
 
Hello There:


I will be picking up Sony 6.0 + DVD.
I have a Dell 8400 P4 3.2ghz 800 fsb, and four SATA drives of 320gb, 1.2tb total. Can I configure my system to boot off of one drive and have all video and audio reading and writing off three drives as raid stripe 0? Will Sony Vegas allow that?

Thanks in advance for any pointers

ty

Zdravko Jancevski December 22nd, 2005 09:44 AM

Frameserving or....???
 
I wonder if it is a good idea to frameserver with Debugframeserver Vegas project to TMPGEnc for encoding or render with native (Main Concept) Vegas renderer . I prefere TMPGEnc because here I can see what size will be created MPEG file, if it's too large to fit on a DVD disc I will be decrease bitrate. Here in Vegas using native encoder I can't see the project size, I have to use bitrate calculator and that is not good idea for me.
To use frameserver for encoding it means longer time for render or I'm wrong?
Regards.

Gary Kleiner December 22nd, 2005 09:50 AM

Vegas would not have a problem with that . It's more a matter of having a raid controller and proper hardware configuration.

Gary

Zdravko Jancevski December 22nd, 2005 10:23 AM

Spltting and Drag Events
 
I usually work my video projects with scene selected events( for example captured video about 2 Hrs contains about 40 scene selected events). I put them into timeline, selecting all events ant applaying transitions to first two events (then automatically applay to all events).My problem appears when I want to manual split some event on timeline in two point (start and end , about 30 Sec length) and change it's speed (Ctrl + Drag) on the rigt to produce slow motion or splitting the whole time line in two parts and put third extern video clip between two of them.In that case I have to select the right part of timeline with selection edit tool to link and lock all events with transition, drag the selected timeline events to the right, put extern video clip between,or drag events to right for slow motion, selecting right part of event again and drag the events back to the left side to link all three video events on the time line.If the video clip is longer then 1 hour it takes me long and boring time draging the video events from selected point to the right side and back again..Maybe I can do it with some easyest way, for example to lock whole events line, then spliting to desired point and draging without using selection edit tool.Probably you know what I mean.
Regards.

Edward Troxel December 22nd, 2005 10:39 AM

How many tracks are we talking about? If you're only dealing with a single audio/video track combination, you might try right-clicking the event and choosing "Select Events to End" which will select everything right of that event. Then you can easily move it over.

You might also want to take a look at ripple editing. With it, the right side should just ripple into place when you resize the event.

Edward Troxel December 22nd, 2005 10:41 AM

The only reason I would go to TMPGenc is if I was getting a better quality encode there. Otherwise, I would just stick with Vegas and use the bitrate calculator. However, if you ARE going to TMPGenc, using the frameserver is a good way to do it.

What's the problem with using the bitrate calculators? If you'd prefer a chart, you can find one in Vol 1 #7 of my newsletters.

Ty Chu December 22nd, 2005 10:58 AM

Thanks Gary
 
Thanks Gary, will have to configure my box then.

Good Day !!!

Ty

Adam Woodworth December 22nd, 2005 11:33 AM

Hi Everyone,

I just wanted to let everyone know that I've updated the plugin a lot since the last post was made here. It now has a *MUCH* faster and better edge detection algorithm, and supports color edge output. Also, the plugin is now packaged in a very easy to use installer, just like any other Windows software.

www.mirkwood.com/vegas

Let me know if you end up using the plugin on any projects! You can contact me via: www.mirkwood.com/mail.shtml

Thanks,
Adam Woodworth

Colin Rayner December 22nd, 2005 01:21 PM

Thanks Ed,
I want to get it sorted out, so I am going to give it a go. That's what I thought maybe easier to work backwards.
Cheers for that.

Colin Rayner December 22nd, 2005 01:59 PM

OK Ed,
I got the last two lines off ok, but I am getting all the text moving down at the keyframe for the third line off working backwards. I have double checked and have in the placement window all at top left plus all in editing window margined to the left. I am copying and pasteing then removing the last line only.
I just can't understand why the text is moving, the y number of the text placement is different at the third line key frame, tried changing it to the same as all the rest, and it moves me to free-form and there is still movement (back upwards).
Have I missed something?

Paul Kepen December 22nd, 2005 03:30 PM

Peter Jefferson, Could you please explain?
 
Hi Peter, just wondering what your saying. I think your saying Vegas encoding is superior to Adobe? Or is it the other way. I would think Adobe Premiere with its big reputation would have to have good rendering/encoding, but maybe not?

" there's no quality difference if yu use premiere rather than vegas"

actually there is, vegas aliasing (or lack of) is far cleaner, not to mention the codecs within vegas pretty much poo on anything (apart from the main concept codec, which is pretty ugly... )

Edward Troxel December 22nd, 2005 04:31 PM

Can you send me your VEG file and let me look at it? Or send me your e-mail address and I'll send you an example (which I'll have to make).

Takis Takop December 23rd, 2005 12:28 AM

Hi Paul, i am new at video editing and i thought that after effects could only work with premiere but from the posts i can see that there is no difference, i can use it with vegas too

Zdravko Jancevski December 23rd, 2005 01:06 AM

Top Field or Bottom Field
 
How can I find out what field is my AVI captured file, Top Field A or Bottom Field B.Regards.

Glenn Chan December 23rd, 2005 02:59 AM

This is usually determined by the format you used to record.

DV is lower field first.

If you're not sure you can playback on a CRT TV and see if the interlacing looks right.

Matt Brabender December 23rd, 2005 07:09 AM

yep, After Effects is a stand alone program that runs independantly of premiere.
As long as whatever file format you're using is supported, then you're good to go.

DJ Kinney December 23rd, 2005 01:06 PM

Batch render individual clips
 
Hi all!

I have 137 individual clips. I need to apply the same few effects to them (deinterlace, color curves, etc) and render them, but I would like to render them out to individual clips. So I would end up with 137 corrected clips.

Easy way to do this in Vegas 6?

Thanks,

DJ

Glenn Chan December 23rd, 2005 02:12 PM

1- Add the video FX to the track or video preview level.

2- Save the effect as presets. Hit F11 to toggle the big bottom thing on. Click on the video FX tab.

You can highlight all the clips in the timeline, and add filters to all of them at once. Hold the CRTL modifier if you dont want that window to pop up.

3- You can right click a clip and copy, and then paste attributes to other clips. However, it'll paste other stuff like pan/crop... so this can be dangerous.

4- Batch render: There might be a script for that. I'd probably look on the VASST website.

(EDIT: Sorry, I just realized I probably didn't answer your question.)

Edward Troxel December 23rd, 2005 02:15 PM

Scripting! You can easily do this with scripts. For example, just add all the events on the timeline, apply the effects as needed, and then use a script to render as you desire.

Using Excalibur, I would have Excalibur put regions around each clip on the timeline named for the clip and then use the DVD Asset Collector tool to render each region based on the region name. Two steps and you're done.

You might also look at the Veggie Toolkit which is probably the best batch rendering program out there today.

DJ Kinney December 23rd, 2005 02:18 PM

Thanks Guys. I have never been good at scripting. I never really figured out how to do it. I guess I'll have to figure it out here in a minute or two. Any easy script you can think of? I'll take a look at those sites, Ed.

Thanks so much.

DJ

EDIT: Whoah! I just realized that there is already a "Batch Render" script in the scripts menu. I don't know if this is what I'm looking for or not. I will have to get back to you on this.

Edward Troxel December 23rd, 2005 02:23 PM

There's also a batch render script included with Vegas. It also will render regions but you'd have to manually create those regions. Just go to Tools - Scripting - Batch Render to see it.

Troy Haines December 23rd, 2005 02:47 PM

Thanks for all the input guys.

I'm just a hobbyist so looking at just plugging a mic into the pc. Was hoping I could use my current soundcard input to record the VO. I have a high end ASUS motherboard which has a built in soundcard - Nforce4

How do i record voice in vegas and where can I buy something like a USB mic??


Thanks again guys, your all very help and I appreciate your help. Merry Christmas to all !!

Tony Rockliff December 23rd, 2005 04:44 PM

I frameserve to Procoder Express and very occasionally to TMPGenc, both excellent encoders and both of which give me better looking results than encoding in Vegas, no matter the MainConcept settings. MainConcept also has a problem encoding fast motion during a fade-in from black.

With TMPGenc you have to remember to use the correct 601 black level setting, with Procoder and MainConcept you don't. I find MainConcept fine for quick draft encodes, though.

Tony

Dan Euritt December 24th, 2005 12:08 AM

i made a pop stopper out of an old metal wire clothes hanger hoop with some panty hose strung across it, lol... i've been telling myself that i "graduated" when i got a studio projects c1 mic, recording thru an old mackie 1202 into a dv deck, then massaged gently with waves software.

i have a lot to learn about audio :-/ the problem with recording into computers is cheap noisy sound cards and noisy fans, so look to have the computer behind a closed door while recording into it.

i happen to have a pretty good voice, but it's totally untrained, which makes it unuseable for serious work... voice-over people are worth every penny, because they are actors as well.

Steve House December 24th, 2005 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troy Haines
Thanks for all the input guys.

I'm just a hobbyist so looking at just plugging a mic into the pc. Was hoping I could use my current soundcard input to record the VO. I have a high end ASUS motherboard which has a built in soundcard - Nforce4

How do i record voice in vegas and where can I buy something like a USB mic??


Thanks again guys, your all very help and I appreciate your help. Merry Christmas to all !!

Here's one USB mic that's on the market and inexpensive ...
http://www.samsontech.com/products/p...1810&brandID=2
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...ughType=search

Tony Conesa December 25th, 2005 01:25 PM

HELP- Problem Rendering!!!! - computer freezes
 
Hello everyone,

I am having a problem rendering on my computer.

Everytime I try to render, the computer freezes.
This happens everytime around 14 to 16 percent into the render process. No matter what the render specifications are, this happens.

I am using Vegas 4.0 and windows XP.

Here are the specifications on my computer-
my computer was made by my dad, so it is not a name brand. the motherboard is a Soyo dragon, and i am using windows XP and Vegas 4.0.

on my c drive, I have 31.2 gigs open and 83.2 gigs used (total-114.48gb)

My memory is 512 MB

VIA Technologies, Inc.
System Model: P4X400-8235
BIOS Version: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Version: x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7
Speed: 2393 MHz


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