NeoScene Footage..Vegas Crashes at DVinfo.net

Peter Ferriero · January 7th, 2010, 10:43 PM

Months went by with no Vegas problems..but here I am again...with MAJOR Vegas problems..
Using Mark II Footage..of course Vegas can't handle that on its own..so I used NeoScene to transfer..that part worked great..was able to edit footage..now when trying to render a 5 minute video for Vimeo..keeps crashing at all points..tried to render in multiple formats..moved all footage directly on C Drive and getting crashes near 80%.. a annoying message comes up that says Vegas has stopped working, and an option to report the incident, as if that would help the 100 times its happened today..anyone know of what causes this message to pop up?

Bill Binder · January 8th, 2010, 05:52 PM

Going to need way more info for this. 32 bit or 64 bit Vegas? OS?

Brian Luce · January 9th, 2010, 12:44 AM

Let me guess, W7 right?

Buba Kastorski · January 12th, 2010, 10:05 PM

I have the same situation, well a bit worse,
5Dmkii footage converted to avi in neoscene plus RED footage converted to prores, but I think problem is in the neoscene files,
basically because of this problem I went 64 bit OS and Vegas, and got the much faster i7,
but the problem is still there
I've tried to replace avi files with the originals from 5D, but then I'm getting red thing instead of footage
the only thing that helps, is to reduce the number of files in project media window, I edit in shorter segments and keep there only clips that are used in the segment , not the whole thing, but Vegas still crashes from time to time, and I seriously think to try some other NLE,
but what software can give me real time preview with no pre-render?

Cliff Etzel · January 13th, 2010, 12:02 AM

Give Edius Neo Booster trial a work over - once you work with it fully for 30 days you will not look back. I ditched Vegas Pro for Edius Neo (and eventually Edius 5.x) and it was a breath of fresh air.

Edward Troxel · January 13th, 2010, 08:26 AM

Cliff, I have a copy of Edius for testing some things. I find it much more difficult to use than Vegas. Nothing is where I think it should be. So it's really a matter of the user as to which will "be a breath of fresh air".

Phil Hendren · January 13th, 2010, 01:23 PM

I'm a vegas user but not an expert by any means. However, I do work with computers professionally (tech support, hardware, etc). When you get the error that asks if you want to report it (upon crashing) there should be a spot where you can look at the details and see the specific error info (it will usually give you some error text and a specific filename such as sv9n.dll - just a made up example, etc). Armed with the specific error details you can google them and see what you find.

If that doesn't work you could try running Windows task manager when it usually crashes and watch the system resources to see if that is your issue (although the task manager is going to use resources itself).

How much RAM do you have and how much available disk space on the OS main partition? How large are the files you are working with?

Dave Haynie · January 16th, 2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Ferriero

Months went by with no Vegas problems..but here I am again...with MAJOR Vegas problems..
Using Mark II Footage..of course Vegas can't handle that on its own..so I used NeoScene to transfer..that part worked great..was able to edit footage..now when trying to render a 5 minute video for Vimeo..keeps crashing at all points..tried to render in multiple formats..moved all footage directly on C Drive and getting crashes near 80%.. a annoying message comes up that says Vegas has stopped working, and an option to report the incident, as if that would help the 100 times its happened today..anyone know of what causes this message to pop up?

The worst problems I've ever had with Vegas were actually due to weird hardware issues. Basically, Vegas got all crashy when I managed to get significant thrashing on a hard drive. Not that you want that anyway, but too many huge assets at once all coming from the same drive, rendering to and from the same drive from 100GB Cineform files, calling up dozens of 6-12Mpixel JPEGs and PNGs to mix with video, etc. has in the past made it a very bad day for Vegas. Vegas 9 is much more less likely to crash on this than Vegas 8 was, but I'm also careful to use multiple drives, and also composite in stages when things get really complex. Don't know if this is involved in your rig or not, but it couldn't hurt to look at how much data you're actually demanding per second.

January 7th, 2010, 10:43 PM	#1
Peter Ferriero Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lyndhurst NJ Posts: 78	NeoScene Footage..Vegas Crashes Months went by with no Vegas problems..but here I am again...with MAJOR Vegas problems.. Using Mark II Footage..of course Vegas can't handle that on its own..so I used NeoScene to transfer..that part worked great..was able to edit footage..now when trying to render a 5 minute video for Vimeo..keeps crashing at all points..tried to render in multiple formats..moved all footage directly on C Drive and getting crashes near 80%.. a annoying message comes up that says Vegas has stopped working, and an option to report the incident, as if that would help the 100 times its happened today..anyone know of what causes this message to pop up?

January 8th, 2010, 05:52 PM	#2
Bill Binder Major Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 542	Going to need way more info for this. 32 bit or 64 bit Vegas? OS? __________________ BayTaper.com \| One man's multimedia journey through the San Francisco live jazz and creative music scene.

January 12th, 2010, 10:05 PM	#4
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	I have the same situation, well a bit worse, 5Dmkii footage converted to avi in neoscene plus RED footage converted to prores, but I think problem is in the neoscene files, basically because of this problem I went 64 bit OS and Vegas, and got the much faster i7, but the problem is still there I've tried to replace avi files with the originals from 5D, but then I'm getting red thing instead of footage the only thing that helps, is to reduce the number of files in project media window, I edit in shorter segments and keep there only clips that are used in the segment , not the whole thing, but Vegas still crashes from time to time, and I seriously think to try some other NLE, but what software can give me real time preview with no pre-render? __________________ I love this place!

January 13th, 2010, 12:02 AM	#5
Cliff Etzel Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 325	Give Edius Neo Booster trial a work over - once you work with it fully for 30 days you will not look back. I ditched Vegas Pro for Edius Neo (and eventually Edius 5.x) and it was a breath of fresh air. __________________ Cliff Etzel - Photographer Website \| Blog

January 13th, 2010, 08:26 AM	#6
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Cliff, I have a copy of Edius for testing some things. I find it much more difficult to use than Vegas. Nothing is where I think it should be. So it's really a matter of the user as to which will "be a breath of fresh air". __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

January 9th, 2010, 12:44 AM	#3
Brian Luce Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,290	Let me guess, W7 right?

January 13th, 2010, 01:23 PM	#7
Phil Hendren New Boot Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 18	I'm a vegas user but not an expert by any means. However, I do work with computers professionally (tech support, hardware, etc). When you get the error that asks if you want to report it (upon crashing) there should be a spot where you can look at the details and see the specific error info (it will usually give you some error text and a specific filename such as sv9n.dll - just a made up example, etc). Armed with the specific error details you can google them and see what you find. If that doesn't work you could try running Windows task manager when it usually crashes and watch the system resources to see if that is your issue (although the task manager is going to use resources itself). How much RAM do you have and how much available disk space on the OS main partition? How large are the files you are working with?