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Michael Best May 18th, 2006 08:38 PM

File to external drive worked - thank you

Justin Deming May 19th, 2006 07:36 AM

Slowmo
 
I am just learning to use Vegas 6d, and one thing is not working for me. I am attempting to slow down a small video clip, and it just isn't working right.

If I use the shuttle controls while previewing I can get the video to look exactly the way I want, but getting it to render the same way isn't happening.

I have tried using a velocity envelope to change the speed, but it only affetcts the video, and I can't add the same envelope to the video.

If I just stretch it out by dragging it (sorry I forget the term for this). I have 2 problems. 1, I can't slow it enough this way. 2, the audio sounds horrible. The audio takes on this chopped up, echoey sound that is nothing like what the shuttle controls do.

So, how do Vegas users normally create a slowmo event? I need the audio to stretch out with the video, the slowed down audio is a big part of why I want the slowmo in the first place.

Any help would be appreciated, thank you!!

Emre Safak May 19th, 2006 09:02 AM

Monitoring for a 5.1 Dolby Digital mix
 
How should I monitor the dynamics if the track sounds different once encoded? Should I work by the numbers; learn what +-6dB, +-12db etc. relative to the dialog baseline sounds like? Currently I use a trial-and-error approach of mixing by ear, rendering to AC3, then fixing the mix. I also want to learn how to use Dolby Digital's DRC feature.

How different is mixing for DTS?

Tim Goldman May 19th, 2006 09:26 AM

vegas or vegas bundle
 
i'm looking to get vegas in a few months along with my camera. So I was wonderign is it worht it to go ahead and pick up the vegas bundle with the dvd tools in it. Is this a good dvd creation program?

Chris Davis May 19th, 2006 10:50 AM

I really like it, but I don't have much to compare it to, other than the cheapie DVD creation tools that normally come free with a computer.

You can save markers in your Vegas projects that can be pulled into DVD Architect. You can also render directly to MPEG2/AC3 in Vegas which makes creation of DVDs much faster in DVD Architect.

Unless you have another DVD authoring program that you absolutely love, I'd go ahead and get the Vegas+DVD bundle.

Don Bloom May 19th, 2006 11:14 AM

DVDA is a wonderful DVD creation program and well worth the few extra dollars to get it with Vegas.

Don

Takis Takop May 19th, 2006 01:45 PM

vegas users - laptops
 
i can see that there are many people using vegas with their laptop and many others (like me) asking "which laptop can run vegas"
maybe its a good idea through this thread for the users who already use a laptop with vegas,to write the specs of their laptop and if vegas runs ok or not, just like a tiny vegas-laptop database for the rest of us who keep asking/searching

Chris Davis May 19th, 2006 02:00 PM

I just got a new laptop:

Dell Inspiron E1750
2GHz Centrino dual-core processor
1GB RAM
100GB 7200 RPM SATA drive
17" WUXGA screen (1900x1200)
256MB ATI Radeon X1400 video
8x dual-layer DVD+-RW

I have installed Vegas, but have not yet had the opportunity to do any editing on it. I expect it to perform very well.

BTW, this was sort of a "gift" from Dell. I was having a reoccurring problem with an 18 month old Inspiron 8600, and Dell sent this as a replacement.

Joe Bowey May 19th, 2006 03:40 PM

I use a laptop for my vegas 4 and it works great. I see Sony is coming out with a new laptop with Blue-ray burner and a 1920x1080 screen for around $3000.
I have a HP zx6000 what are you guys using for a monitor for preview?

Edward Troxel May 19th, 2006 06:48 PM

3.4 GHz P4
1 Gig RAM
2 60Gig 7200RPM drives

Vegas runs great on it.

Fred Foronda May 19th, 2006 10:35 PM

Audio problem when printed to tape
 
I was able to deliver the final product onto DVD with the audio being stereo using DVDA. Audio was perfect. When I printed the same project to HDV tape the audio was distorted I had to turn down the volume on my audio system. Did I do something wrong or is there a setting I missed on both the fx1 camera and or on Vegas 6..

thanks

Don Bloom May 20th, 2006 07:11 AM

Fred, Like I said in the other post on Edwards Vegas site-AC3 calls for some manipulation of the audio so when it's played it sound correct levels wise-we set the normalisation to -31 and the RFline to NONE and off we go. For tape however you need to set your audio effects and levels to what you want and when you finally happy with it lower the master level to -20db as its playing. Tape will produce a "real time" sound and if you don't lower the master level it will snap crackle and pop-remember that -12db in digitalspeak is the same as 0db in analogease and 0 will clip (so will -12 on tape)
just reprint the project anf you lower the master level and you should be set to go
Don

Sean Seah May 20th, 2006 10:15 AM

How to batch render into CF avi?
 
I used HDVspilt and now I have a 26Gb of clips in 1080-50i. How do I batch conver all of em to the CF intermediate avi? I'm doing it manually n it is one hell of a pain in the a**!!

I found this batch render script but when I run it, I select this avi 1080-50i, render selection, and it starts running. Nothing useful came out of the file. Do I have to put all the files on the tracks? If yes, do I put them into seperate tracks? Thanks in advanced...

Fred Foronda May 20th, 2006 11:06 AM

Thanks for the response, when I adjust the volume its on the master not the audio track right??

Don Bloom May 20th, 2006 11:58 AM

Well I guess it wouldn't matter if you only have 1 audio track but I have found the MASTER works for me. Just the way I was "trained". Obviously if you have multiple audio tracks then the MASTER is the only way to go.

Don

Paul Selph May 20th, 2006 02:47 PM

Photo Quality with Pan Crop
 
I have been looking at old post trying to fix a problem
I have been having with JPG photos in my video.
If I put a photo on the time line and then use pan/crop,
when I make it an AVI 720x480 and watch on TV set alot of the photos get
very jaggy and have the newcaster with the wrong tie effect, shimmer,. I have tried downsizing the photos to 720x480, no good, and I have set to progressive non-progressive and I still get same look, I have tried MPG2 format also. When I did some stuff in Moviemaker I didnt have that problem, lots of other problems but the photos looked fine. I am working on a project now with a combo of lots of photos and some video for my school but I want it to look good. If I dont use the pan/crop they are fine. I have 4 days to finish this. Thanks for the help
Paul

Jim Ohair May 20th, 2006 06:23 PM

Render at best quality in project properties or when rendering at end. I do this
and it eliminated this effect along with reduce interlace flicker in each photos
properties.
right click
then check reduce interlace flicker.

I don't resize pictures, I've never seen the need.

Edward Troxel May 20th, 2006 07:48 PM

Very fine lines cause this problem. As mentioned, rendering at BEST and using Reduce Interlace Flicker help. Adding a very slight blur can also help.

Paul Selph May 20th, 2006 08:01 PM

That helped quite a bit, I still have some but not a anoying as they were. What are your media settings on,
I hav mine on the 1.000 multimedia with progressive scan off and smart resample on, should these be the best or will progrssive work better. Thanks hopefull I can get to
work on putting it all together by Wed.
Paul

Jeff Baker May 21st, 2006 12:29 PM

DVD Architect 3.0c not seeing dvd burner
 
Everything was working fine (famous last words) and then I bought this new RiData 16X DVD-R media to use with my NEC ND-3520AW DVD Burner. When I tried to burn a project with the new media, DVD architect thought it was 24X CD media.

So I noticed a firmware upgrade for the NEC drive and flashed it to the latest (3.07 in my case).

Now Sony DVD Architect does not see the drive at all. Adobe Encore sees it (and also sees the 16x media), the Architect does not even see the drive anymore.

I have this whole project authored in DVD Architect, so I really need to burn from it and I can't seem to download the old firmware to get back to the point where it was working with Architect.

Any ideas? This is driving me nuts!

David Delaney May 21st, 2006 12:53 PM

Where do Presets go?
 
I am trying to put in the DayforNight preset from JetDV, but I cannot figure out where to put it in the folders?

Never mind, downloaded the Preset manager

John Rofrano May 21st, 2006 06:46 PM

You could buy GearShift and it will automate this process for you. Just point it to the M2T files in a folder and it will bring them all in one at a time and make CineForm AVI’s (or DV Proxies or both) for you.

You can try it for free for 15-days so it should help on this project and then you can see if it’s worth the money for future projects.

~jr

John Rofrano May 21st, 2006 07:21 PM

By default Vegas is trying to maintain the proper pitch of the audio and just slow down the time it takes to play. You don’t want this behavior so you have to turn it off.

Right-click on the Audio after you stretch it and bring up the properties dialog. On the Audio Event tab under Time Stretch / pitch shift make sure you check Pitch change: [x] Lock to Stretch option. This will make the pitch of the audio lower as you want.

It won’t follow the velocity envelope however. If you want it to gradually slow down you need to process it in Sound Forge with the Pitch Bend plug-in. This will let you apply an envelope to the audio to make it gradually get lower. Then you have to time stretch it in Sound Forge to make is last longer.

~jr

Bob Safay May 22nd, 2006 06:43 AM

Loading Vegas 6 and DVD3 updates
 
Question, I just finished loading the Vegas 6 and DVD 3 updates. Can I now remove Vegas 5 and DVD 2 off the hard drive, or are the eccential for running the updates? Bob

Chris Davis May 22nd, 2006 07:03 AM

This weekend I loaded a project on my Dell E1705 and I am extremely pleased with the performance of Vegas on my laptop. It's much smoother than my desktop editing machine, and the TrueLife 17" display is fantastic for editing. I really can't fit more than one project at a time on the laptop, due to the size of the hard drive, but this will be very nice for taking projects home to work on after hours.

Rob Lohman May 22nd, 2006 07:34 AM

They should be full installs. However, you can run both versions at the sime
time. So I would keep the previous versions around a bit longer just to make
sure everything works with the new versions (check the AC3 encoding for
example).

Good luck!

Richard Bender May 22nd, 2006 07:57 AM

Change hair color
 
I watched the sample on how to 2nd color correct change the color of a persons shirt. Is is possible to change hair color? Tips on how if it is.

David Jimerson May 22nd, 2006 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Bender
I watched the sample on how to 2nd color correct change the color of a persons shirt. Is is possible to change hair color? Tips on how if it is.

You would do the same thing you do to change the shirt color.

Sean Seah May 22nd, 2006 10:05 AM

Thanks John. I tried it n it works well. I hope to purchase it but I have one more problem with it. The manual says I can batch convert the files into a DV proxy while the YUV/CF conversion is optional. My aim is to edit the CF intermediate files n render em to DVDA3 PAL widecreen.

I converted a few DV proxy files (w/o the CF files) n edited them. They worked fine. But when I attempted to shift gears, an error popped up. Is it necessary to render the CF files in this case to shift gear? Reason is I'm using this for wedding-same day edits so time is critical. It took me 9hrs to convert 2hr15min of 1080-50i footage into CF! (The manual did mention its supposed to be like that!)

Please let me know if it is possible to render just the DV proxy, edit them on the timeline, then shift gears back to m2t, finally render to DVDA3-PAL widescreen. Oh yes, I rendered the DV proxy to a different folder as the m2t. Could that have caused the m2t error? Otherwise I have no choice but to downconvert using the FX1 and download it directly as PAL widescreen. I will give it another go tomorrow but if you have the answer please enlighten me. Gearshift is indeed a pretty nice product! Thanks!

Sean Seah May 22nd, 2006 10:07 AM

R FX1 DV converted files CF intermediate?
 
I attempted to convert HDV>DV directly from the FX1e. I'm now confused if the downloaded file is a DV-PAL or CF intermedia 1080-50i. The manual isnt clear on this. I'm not sure what to set for the file properties of Vegas 6. Thanks!

John Rofrano May 22nd, 2006 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Seah
Please let me know if it is possible to render just the DV proxy, edit them on the timeline, then shift gears back to m2t, finally render to DVDA3-PAL widescreen.

Yes, what you want to do (work on DV proxies and swap out for M2T later) will absolutely work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean Seah
Oh yes, I rendered the DV proxy to a different folder as the m2t. Could that have caused the m2t error?

If you rendered only the DV Proxy, GearShift should have forced you to place them in the same folder with the M2T files. If it did not, then you’ve found a bug. Please explain what you did step-by-step so I can reproduce it and fix it.

For now, if you move the DV proxies into the same folder as the M2T files the Shift Gears option will work just fine. Yes, they need to be in the same folder for the swap to work.

~jr

John Rofrano May 22nd, 2006 12:31 PM

If you downloaded from the camera to your PC with the HDV>DV camera option it's PAL DV Widescreen. Drop it on the Vegas timeline, right-click on it to bring up the properties dialog and look at the Media tab. It should be pretty obvious from the stream properties what type of file it is. Just look under Format. It will say DV or CineForm (not that the size of the frame wouldn’t give it away too) ;-)

~jr

Fred Foronda May 22nd, 2006 08:02 PM

Vegas 6 will not load
 
After many attempts to get the supplied CF codec to work and Vegas was not operating correctly I had re-booted my computer. Vegas 6 software (CD) is not able to install anymore. Anyone knows whats going on? I will try tech support but they're closed at the moment.

Thanks

Edward Troxel May 22nd, 2006 08:19 PM

Not sure how to get DVD A to see the drive but many people "prepare" in DVD A and the "burn" using something like Nero or Record Now.

Edward Troxel May 22nd, 2006 08:20 PM

Yep, you have to use the "Preset Manager" which is a free download from Sony. Glad you figured it out.

Edward Troxel May 22nd, 2006 08:23 PM

NOTE: some people have lost some of the default effects when uninstalling Vegas 5. If this happens, first try reinstalling Vegas 6 and if they're still gone reinstall Vegas 5.

Brian Luce May 22nd, 2006 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Foronda
After many attempts to get the supplied CF codec to work and Vegas was not operating correctly I had re-booted my computer. Vegas 6 software (CD) is not able to install anymore. Anyone knows whats going on? I will try tech support but they're closed at the moment.

Thanks

Is you're computer a little older? vegas 6 won't install on older computers sometimes., I had to use vegas 5.

Jeff Baker May 22nd, 2006 09:32 PM

Thanks, I had forgot of that alternative.

Fred Foronda May 22nd, 2006 09:44 PM

Nope, I previously had it up and running until I added the Connect HD trial verison. When it expried thats when I started to have problems. Thats why I rebooted my computer.

Rob Gregory-Browne May 22nd, 2006 10:03 PM

So Let Me Get This Straight
 
I'm new to HDV, via the A1U. I've been using Vegas since version 2, I believe. So let me get this straight:

In order to edit realistically in Vegas with HD footage, you have to render it down to DV. Then after you edit, you have to render again. But there' s no real point in rendering to HDV, because there's no real mechanism for delivery.

Am I understanding this correctly?

What's the difference between doing the conversion in Vegas and doing the conversion in the A1U during output/capture?


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