Cineform Neo Scene VS Canopos HQ at DVinfo.net

Matthew Amirkhani · March 29th, 2010, 05:27 AM

Hi All,

I purchased the Neo scene and after using it I noticed that it dose not have the sharpness ,cleanest and the quality as of Canapous HQ.

Neo Scene always give some the jagged edge. I tried different settings but still no luck. As for Canapos HQ I just render out and the picture quality it's amazing.

I would like to get some feedbacks as what others think?

Thanks
Matthew

Noa Put · March 29th, 2010, 07:16 AM

I have done some frame by frame comparison between a 1440x1080 m2t file against one converted into cineform neoscene and there was no difference in sharpness, only the neoscene avi file showed a little bit more detail (or information) in very dark area's. It was also a bit less contrasty.

Laurence Kingston · March 29th, 2010, 03:33 PM

When needed, Neo Scene does a cRGB to sRGB color conversion. Neo Scene will also slow down 30p to 29.97. Both these are necessary if you are converting video files from a Canon DSLR.

The cRGB to sRGB conversion takes the color range of the Canon (which is 0 - 255) and rescales it to the standard video 16 - 235 range. If you don't do this you will have an over-contrasty look on an HD TV with your whites blown out. On a regular computer screen the cRGB looks fine though and many people mistake this correction for degradation of the video quality.

If you leave the video at 30p instead of 29.97, Vegas will try to justify the slightly unstandard speed with the proper 29.97. This will result in either double images or dropped frames depending upon your settings.

March 29th, 2010, 05:27 AM	#1
Matthew Amirkhani Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 279	Cineform Neo Scene VS Canopos HQ Hi All, I purchased the Neo scene and after using it I noticed that it dose not have the sharpness ,cleanest and the quality as of Canapous HQ. Neo Scene always give some the jagged edge. I tried different settings but still no luck. As for Canapos HQ I just render out and the picture quality it's amazing. I would like to get some feedbacks as what others think? Thanks Matthew __________________ Canon XHA1, Brevis 35mm, Manfrotto 028,501,Vegas Pro 10e Last edited by Matthew Amirkhani; March 29th, 2010 at 07:10 AM.

March 29th, 2010, 07:16 AM	#2
Noa Put Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 9,509	I have done some frame by frame comparison between a 1440x1080 m2t file against one converted into cineform neoscene and there was no difference in sharpness, only the neoscene avi file showed a little bit more detail (or information) in very dark area's. It was also a bit less contrasty.

March 29th, 2010, 03:33 PM	#3
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	When needed, Neo Scene does a cRGB to sRGB color conversion. Neo Scene will also slow down 30p to 29.97. Both these are necessary if you are converting video files from a Canon DSLR. The cRGB to sRGB conversion takes the color range of the Canon (which is 0 - 255) and rescales it to the standard video 16 - 235 range. If you don't do this you will have an over-contrasty look on an HD TV with your whites blown out. On a regular computer screen the cRGB looks fine though and many people mistake this correction for degradation of the video quality. If you leave the video at 30p instead of 29.97, Vegas will try to justify the slightly unstandard speed with the proper 29.97. This will result in either double images or dropped frames depending upon your settings.