large video project, error when opening at DVinfo.net

Ian Planchon · July 27th, 2010, 01:35 PM

this keeps happening to me when I am editing long format projects with lots of video clips in the project bin:

I will close the file for the day, or even just minimize it and when I go to re-open, vegas won't find a large portion of the video files I was just editing with. It will give an error message saying it cant locate clip number xxxx then ask if I want to pick a replacement or skip.

anyone else have this happen? any ideas what I can do?

Mike Hammond · July 27th, 2010, 04:40 PM

Hi Ian,

This is similar to something I deal with on a very regular basis with Vegas. Though our problems aren't exactly the same, maybe reading my solution will help you with yours.

My issue is opening a project I've been working on and Vegas has somehow replaced one of my video clips with a different one. The audio is correct, and when I click on "Properties" of the wrong clip it reveals that the name of the file is correct. So Vegas is confusing the hell out of something.

Try this: Open a new project. Copy the section in the old project that is giving you trouble. Now, paste that section, as is, into the new project. Replace the media with the same file that it should be. Now copy and paste this new fix into the old project and save. That might fix it.

If not, when you paste the "broken" section into the new project, replace it with a different video file first, let Vegas populate the timeline with the new video file, then replace it again with the correct file. Let it populate and then copy and paste this corrected section back into your old project.

Ian Planchon · July 27th, 2010, 05:14 PM

thanks, I will give that a shot.

heres another question. this project is on the large side, I have about 12 hours worth of raw video that I am editing from. I have a quad core 2.93 ghz processor with 4gb of ram. every time I minimize vegas, then restore, or add material to the project media bin, it takes FOREVER for vegas to come back to life. is this just because there is so much for vegas to think about (its all HD video)?

I was reading about proxies, never actually worked with them before, but it made it sound like XDCAM EX video could not be turned to proxy files. what should I do? I have been working on the first minute of this piece, and it has taken me 7 hours to get the sound bites in, and find the right video, all just because vegas locks up for so long every time I go in and out of vegas.

Cliff Etzel · July 27th, 2010, 05:42 PM

if you have that much on one timeline, Vegas is going to choke.

You are better off breaking your project down into separate Veg files and then editing that way, then embed those veg files into a master veg to render accordingly.

Ian Planchon · July 27th, 2010, 06:55 PM

I only have one minute on the timeline, the 12 hours or raw is in the project media bin.

Craig Longman · July 28th, 2010, 12:27 AM

Try disabling the 'Close media files when not the active application' setting. I like having that normally, I'm sure it's the default, means you can minimize VMS and replace any file currently in use in your project. But maybe for so many big files it's just way too much to go all the way back through and re-open.

Gregory Lee · July 28th, 2010, 01:50 AM

I also have 4 gigs of RAM, but when I try to render, I often get a message saying Vegas is out of memory and to try closing other programs. Although I always close other programs, I still get the message even though my project timeline is only 35 min. I'm using Windows XP Pro 32 bit which doesn't recognize more than 4 RAM. Any suggestions? I'm have an Intel i7 920.

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Originally Posted by Ian Planchon

thanks, I will give that a shot.

heres another question. this project is on the large side, I have about 12 hours worth of raw video that I am editing from. I have a quad core 2.93 ghz processor with 4gb of ram. every time I minimize vegas, then restore, or add material to the project media bin, it takes FOREVER for vegas to come back to life. is this just because there is so much for vegas to think about (its all HD video)?

I was reading about proxies, never actually worked with them before, but it made it sound like XDCAM EX video could not be turned to proxy files. what should I do? I have been working on the first minute of this piece, and it has taken me 7 hours to get the sound bites in, and find the right video, all just because vegas locks up for so long every time I go in and out of vegas.

Ian Planchon · July 28th, 2010, 09:55 AM

i get that one a lot too.

now I am getting a lot of renders that don't actually finish. I am starting to think about switching NLE's.

Edward Troxel · July 29th, 2010, 07:12 AM

Options - Preferences - Video tab - what is the ram preview set to? You might try using a smaller value there. I wouldn't drop it to zero but you can drop it to 16.

Ian Planchon · July 31st, 2010, 02:41 PM

thanks edward, I keep that setting pretty low, and it has no effect.

Matteo Manson · July 31st, 2010, 08:46 PM

Hi Ian, it might be possible that it's your windows virtual memory setting? Sometimes when minimizing programs data will get swapped out of ram and that might be just too much? However, 12 hours is a lot of footage, maybe try dividing the project into 3 or 4 parts.

July 27th, 2010, 01:35 PM	#1
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	large video project, error when opening this keeps happening to me when I am editing long format projects with lots of video clips in the project bin: I will close the file for the day, or even just minimize it and when I go to re-open, vegas won't find a large portion of the video files I was just editing with. It will give an error message saying it cant locate clip number xxxx then ask if I want to pick a replacement or skip. anyone else have this happen? any ideas what I can do?

July 27th, 2010, 04:40 PM	#2
Mike Hammond Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: West Orange, NJ, U.S. Posts: 163	Hi Ian, This is similar to something I deal with on a very regular basis with Vegas. Though our problems aren't exactly the same, maybe reading my solution will help you with yours. My issue is opening a project I've been working on and Vegas has somehow replaced one of my video clips with a different one. The audio is correct, and when I click on "Properties" of the wrong clip it reveals that the name of the file is correct. So Vegas is confusing the hell out of something. Try this: Open a new project. Copy the section in the old project that is giving you trouble. Now, paste that section, as is, into the new project. Replace the media with the same file that it should be. Now copy and paste this new fix into the old project and save. That might fix it. If not, when you paste the "broken" section into the new project, replace it with a different video file first, let Vegas populate the timeline with the new video file, then replace it again with the correct file. Let it populate and then copy and paste this corrected section back into your old project. __________________ Mike Hammond http://www.yourcinematicwedding.com \| http://www.storyboardgroup.com

July 27th, 2010, 05:42 PM	#4
Cliff Etzel Major Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 325	if you have that much on one timeline, Vegas is going to choke. You are better off breaking your project down into separate Veg files and then editing that way, then embed those veg files into a master veg to render accordingly. __________________ Cliff Etzel - Photographer Website \| Blog

July 28th, 2010, 12:27 AM	#6
Craig Longman Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: London, ON Posts: 175	Try disabling the 'Close media files when not the active application' setting. I like having that normally, I'm sure it's the default, means you can minimize VMS and replace any file currently in use in your project. But maybe for so many big files it's just way too much to go all the way back through and re-open. __________________ CraigL

July 29th, 2010, 07:12 AM	#9
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Options - Preferences - Video tab - what is the ram preview set to? You might try using a smaller value there. I wouldn't drop it to zero but you can drop it to 16. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

July 27th, 2010, 05:14 PM	#3
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	thanks, I will give that a shot. heres another question. this project is on the large side, I have about 12 hours worth of raw video that I am editing from. I have a quad core 2.93 ghz processor with 4gb of ram. every time I minimize vegas, then restore, or add material to the project media bin, it takes FOREVER for vegas to come back to life. is this just because there is so much for vegas to think about (its all HD video)? I was reading about proxies, never actually worked with them before, but it made it sound like XDCAM EX video could not be turned to proxy files. what should I do? I have been working on the first minute of this piece, and it has taken me 7 hours to get the sound bites in, and find the right video, all just because vegas locks up for so long every time I go in and out of vegas.

July 27th, 2010, 06:55 PM	#5
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	I only have one minute on the timeline, the 12 hours or raw is in the project media bin.

July 28th, 2010, 09:55 AM	#8
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	i get that one a lot too. now I am getting a lot of renders that don't actually finish. I am starting to think about switching NLE's.

July 31st, 2010, 02:41 PM	#10
Ian Planchon Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: an Alaskan living in Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 513	thanks edward, I keep that setting pretty low, and it has no effect.

July 31st, 2010, 08:46 PM	#11
Matteo Manson Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 37	Hi Ian, it might be possible that it's your windows virtual memory setting? Sometimes when minimizing programs data will get swapped out of ram and that might be just too much? However, 12 hours is a lot of footage, maybe try dividing the project into 3 or 4 parts.