16+ Hours to render three minutes of footage at DVinfo.net

Eduardo Romero · September 26th, 2010, 05:32 PM

So I'm editing together a short film and I want to send one of the actors what I got so far and I'm right at the three minute mark. I out to render out as a MOV file at 1920X1080 HD, it's been rendering for 42 minutes all ready and it's stuck at 0%, the estimated time is at 17 hours and counting, I'm looking at my CPU and it's not moving, has it crashed or is really taking this long to render? How can I make this faster?

Chris Harding · September 26th, 2010, 05:50 PM

Hi Eduardo

You can shut it down cos it ain't gonna render!!! It happened to me once when there was an error during the edit and the render sat at 0%....something is not right with the setup..with me I had a volume slider set to infinity and amazingly enough that caused the render to halt!! (but nothing in the form of error messages!!)

What will the actor what your 3 min segment on???? computer??? If so maybe render it to something easy like MP4 and pop it onto YouTube ??? or just send the MP4 file.

Try a quick render using the Sony AVC render setting and choose the 1280x720 preset

Chris

Eduardo Romero · September 26th, 2010, 08:39 PM

I've tried a few different settings, same problem

Tom Majeski · September 26th, 2010, 10:42 PM

Is this a new problem or are you new to Vegas? What has been your past rendering times?
Just wondering if it's an install problem.

Eduardo Romero · September 27th, 2010, 12:57 AM

I've been using vegas for years but I just upgraded to AVCHD from Mini DV so I'm not sure how to optomize vegas for the format

Chris Harding · September 27th, 2010, 07:39 AM

It might help if we had a few more details???

What camera are you creating the AVCHD on ??? What computer and which version of Vegas???

It could be a single problem above or all three!!! To give you an idea I shoot on Panasonic and the MTS files import nicely in Vegas 9 and rendering down to MPEG2 on my little DuoCore takes roughly 8 minutes per minute on footage on the timeline....if you do the same with the HD file transcoded to DV-AVI it will render a 5 minutes clip in about 2 minutes where the MTS file takes nearly an hour!!

List some specs and I'm sure someone can help!!

Chris

Eduardo Romero · September 27th, 2010, 02:32 PM

It's a sony HDR XR500

The computer is a custom build

2.4 GHZ Quad Core processor
4 Gigs DDR2 Rams
500 GB SATA HDD
640 MB VRAM
Windows 7 64-Bit

Running Vegas 9.0 64- bit

I'm rendering the clips independantly to MOV files (3 MBPS) and I'll render back out to MTS when it's all finished, hope that'll work

Mike Kujbida · September 27th, 2010, 03:55 PM

Why are you rendering to MOV?

David Jasany · September 27th, 2010, 05:30 PM

What's your Dynamic RAM preview memory set to?

Eduardo Romero · September 27th, 2010, 11:18 PM

3 Gigs

And I honestly have no reason why I chose MOV I just did

David Jasany · September 28th, 2010, 05:20 AM

Change dynamic RAM preview to something low, such as 350MB, which is the default for Vegas 8.1. That will probably fix your problem. Also, the default number of rendering threads is 16.

Mike Kujbida · September 28th, 2010, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eduardo Romero

And I honestly have no reason why I chose MOV I just did

If you're sending the actor something for review purposes, use the "Internet 16:9 HD 30p" Template found under the "Sony AVC (*.mp4, *.m2ts, *.avc) Save as type".
Customize it as desired.
Quality is excellent, the file size is small and the render should be pretty quick.

Note: this render template is available in Pro 9 only.

Mike Kujbida · September 28th, 2010, 08:29 AM

Here's a screenshot of what I was talking about.

Jordan Brindle · September 28th, 2010, 09:42 AM

Just throwing this out there, it's unlikely the cause of the problem, but how many effects do you have applied to the clip?

Some times when Vegas reaches the point in a clip with a large effect/amount of effects it will slow down drastically and temporarily display a misleading render time, usually tripled or more, until the effect is rendered and the ETA returns to normal.

Eduardo Romero · September 28th, 2010, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Jasany

Change dynamic RAM preview to something low, such as 350MB, which is the default for Vegas 8.1. That will probably fix your problem. Also, the default number of rendering threads is 16.

It Worked!!!!!!!!

Thank you and thank everyone for your help!

September 26th, 2010, 05:32 PM	#1
Eduardo Romero Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 28	16+ Hours to render three minutes of footage So I'm editing together a short film and I want to send one of the actors what I got so far and I'm right at the three minute mark. I out to render out as a MOV file at 1920X1080 HD, it's been rendering for 42 minutes all ready and it's stuck at 0%, the estimated time is at 17 hours and counting, I'm looking at my CPU and it's not moving, has it crashed or is really taking this long to render? How can I make this faster?

September 28th, 2010, 08:29 AM	#13
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Here's a screenshot of what I was talking about. Attached Thumbnails

September 26th, 2010, 05:50 PM	#2
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Eduardo You can shut it down cos it ain't gonna render!!! It happened to me once when there was an error during the edit and the render sat at 0%....something is not right with the setup..with me I had a volume slider set to infinity and amazingly enough that caused the render to halt!! (but nothing in the form of error messages!!) What will the actor what your 3 min segment on???? computer??? If so maybe render it to something easy like MP4 and pop it onto YouTube ??? or just send the MP4 file. Try a quick render using the Sony AVC render setting and choose the 1280x720 preset Chris

September 26th, 2010, 08:39 PM	#3
Eduardo Romero Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 28	I've tried a few different settings, same problem

September 26th, 2010, 10:42 PM	#4
Tom Majeski Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: State College PA Posts: 45	Is this a new problem or are you new to Vegas? What has been your past rendering times? Just wondering if it's an install problem.

September 27th, 2010, 12:57 AM	#5
Eduardo Romero Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 28	I've been using vegas for years but I just upgraded to AVCHD from Mini DV so I'm not sure how to optomize vegas for the format

September 27th, 2010, 07:39 AM	#6
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	It might help if we had a few more details??? What camera are you creating the AVCHD on ??? What computer and which version of Vegas??? It could be a single problem above or all three!!! To give you an idea I shoot on Panasonic and the MTS files import nicely in Vegas 9 and rendering down to MPEG2 on my little DuoCore takes roughly 8 minutes per minute on footage on the timeline....if you do the same with the HD file transcoded to DV-AVI it will render a 5 minutes clip in about 2 minutes where the MTS file takes nearly an hour!! List some specs and I'm sure someone can help!! Chris

September 27th, 2010, 02:32 PM	#7
Eduardo Romero Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 28	It's a sony HDR XR500 The computer is a custom build 2.4 GHZ Quad Core processor 4 Gigs DDR2 Rams 500 GB SATA HDD 640 MB VRAM Windows 7 64-Bit Running Vegas 9.0 64- bit I'm rendering the clips independantly to MOV files (3 MBPS) and I'll render back out to MTS when it's all finished, hope that'll work

September 27th, 2010, 03:55 PM	#8
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Why are you rendering to MOV?

September 27th, 2010, 05:30 PM	#9
David Jasany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 313	What's your Dynamic RAM preview memory set to?

September 27th, 2010, 11:18 PM	#10
Eduardo Romero Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 28	3 Gigs And I honestly have no reason why I chose MOV I just did

September 28th, 2010, 05:20 AM	#11
David Jasany Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: North Carolina Posts: 313	Change dynamic RAM preview to something low, such as 350MB, which is the default for Vegas 8.1. That will probably fix your problem. Also, the default number of rendering threads is 16.

September 28th, 2010, 09:42 AM	#14
Jordan Brindle Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: UK Posts: 249	Just throwing this out there, it's unlikely the cause of the problem, but how many effects do you have applied to the clip? Some times when Vegas reaches the point in a clip with a large effect/amount of effects it will slow down drastically and temporarily display a misleading render time, usually tripled or more, until the effect is rendered and the ETA returns to normal.