Hw Vegas 10 would handle the files from Panny Af-100? at DVinfo.net

Marcus Martell · December 31st, 2010, 04:17 AM

Do u guys think about any issues with Vegas 10 and the files coming from the new Pana Af100?
My pc has a quad core with 4gb of ram

thx and happy 2k11

Jeff Harper · December 31st, 2010, 03:15 PM

The files are AVCHD, I believe. They would be a nightmare on an old quad core. You would need to transcode them before editing.

If your going to produce HD video I couldn't even imagine using a quad core with 4 GB ram, but people do it all of the time.

I would be impatient with SD footage on your PC, but that is just me.

So long story short, yes you could do it. But it wouldn't be fun.

Graham Bernard · January 1st, 2011, 02:58 AM

And if you aren't 64bit throughout that extra 1gb of RAM isn't being seen by Vegas either. So, if you aren't 64bit I understand you'd struggle even more.

Grazie

Chris Barcellos · January 1st, 2011, 03:33 PM

My assumption is it is going to be footage like comes out of 5D and the T2i. I have a Dell Core 2 Quad chip on board, and in Vegas 10, I have been able to use the raw 5D and T2i files and have decent performance. I am running in 32 bit and only have 3 gigs of memory. 10 has been a great improvement in that realm.

I believe it still is smarter to convert to Cineform for proper color correction and color space rendition, but this version of Vegas is solving many quick edit issues.

Jeff Harper · January 3rd, 2011, 03:27 PM

Files are definitely AVCHD. Are those files easier or more difficult than those from a 5d? Not sure. I know AVCHD files are a bear to edit on my overclocked i7. Multicamera edits are not even close to doable without conversion.

This camera sounds amazing....

Mike Kujbida · January 3rd, 2011, 04:24 PM

Jeff, thanks for posting the link.
I've read a number of Jan's posts on the Cow Vegas forum over the years and always wondered (given the unisex name) if it was a man or a woman.
Now I know :)

Jeff Harper · January 3rd, 2011, 09:08 PM

You're welcome. I actually had only meant to post a link, not embed the video, but when I pasted the url the video is what we get....hopefully the forum has no issue with it.

Marcus Martell · January 23rd, 2011, 10:45 AM

So guys after those weeks of using vegas with the aF100 diles, what could you tell me?

Jeff Harper · January 23rd, 2011, 11:04 AM

Marcus, anyone editing avchd files could pretty much tell you the same thing. It doesn't matter which camera they come from.

Marcus Martell · January 23rd, 2011, 11:11 AM

thx a lot my friend

Jay Bratcher · January 25th, 2011, 10:04 AM

My GH1 also produces AVCHD. On Windows 7, core i7 860, 4GB RAM, with Vegas 10 Pro (and Vegas 9 trial as well), AVCHD edits just fine. Granted there are some differences between the AF-100 codec and the GH1 codec, I suspec they will behave similarly.

If I compare it to say, h.264 from a 7D, I would say the AVCHD files are noticeably easier to work with. I suspect this is because Vegas and Windows both support AVCHD natively, while the 7D produces files which require Quicktime to decode. AVCHD seems to benefit from multiple cores, at least in Windows 7 and with Vegas Pro.

December 31st, 2010, 04:17 AM	#1
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Hw Vegas 10 would handle the files from Panny Af-100? Do u guys think about any issues with Vegas 10 and the files coming from the new Pana Af100? My pc has a quad core with 4gb of ram thx and happy 2k11

December 31st, 2010, 03:15 PM	#2
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	The files are AVCHD, I believe. They would be a nightmare on an old quad core. You would need to transcode them before editing. If your going to produce HD video I couldn't even imagine using a quad core with 4 GB ram, but people do it all of the time. I would be impatient with SD footage on your PC, but that is just me. So long story short, yes you could do it. But it wouldn't be fun. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

January 1st, 2011, 03:33 PM	#4
Chris Barcellos Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Elk Grove CA Posts: 6,838	My assumption is it is going to be footage like comes out of 5D and the T2i. I have a Dell Core 2 Quad chip on board, and in Vegas 10, I have been able to use the raw 5D and T2i files and have decent performance. I am running in 32 bit and only have 3 gigs of memory. 10 has been a great improvement in that realm. I believe it still is smarter to convert to Cineform for proper color correction and color space rendition, but this version of Vegas is solving many quick edit issues. __________________ Chris J. Barcellos

January 3rd, 2011, 03:27 PM	#5
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Files are definitely AVCHD. Are those files easier or more difficult than those from a 5d? Not sure. I know AVCHD files are a bear to edit on my overclocked i7. Multicamera edits are not even close to doable without conversion. This camera sounds amazing.... Panasonic AG-AF100 4/3" Camcorder on Vimeo __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

January 3rd, 2011, 09:08 PM	#7
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	You're welcome. I actually had only meant to post a link, not embed the video, but when I pasted the url the video is what we get....hopefully the forum has no issue with it. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

January 1st, 2011, 02:58 AM	#3
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	And if you aren't 64bit throughout that extra 1gb of RAM isn't being seen by Vegas either. So, if you aren't 64bit I understand you'd struggle even more. Grazie

January 3rd, 2011, 04:24 PM	#6
Mike Kujbida Inner Circle Join Date: May 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Canada Posts: 2,770	Jeff, thanks for posting the link. I've read a number of Jan's posts on the Cow Vegas forum over the years and always wondered (given the unisex name) if it was a man or a woman. Now I know :)

January 23rd, 2011, 10:45 AM	#8
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	So guys after those weeks of using vegas with the aF100 diles, what could you tell me?

January 23rd, 2011, 11:04 AM	#9
Jeff Harper Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 8,425	Marcus, anyone editing avchd files could pretty much tell you the same thing. It doesn't matter which camera they come from. __________________ "The horror of what I saw on the timeline cannot be described."

January 23rd, 2011, 11:11 AM	#10
Marcus Martell Trustee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: spain Posts: 1,202	Importing a dvd in Vegas thx a lot my friend

January 25th, 2011, 10:04 AM	#11
Jay Bratcher Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 110	My GH1 also produces AVCHD. On Windows 7, core i7 860, 4GB RAM, with Vegas 10 Pro (and Vegas 9 trial as well), AVCHD edits just fine. Granted there are some differences between the AF-100 codec and the GH1 codec, I suspec they will behave similarly. If I compare it to say, h.264 from a 7D, I would say the AVCHD files are noticeably easier to work with. I suspect this is because Vegas and Windows both support AVCHD natively, while the 7D produces files which require Quicktime to decode. AVCHD seems to benefit from multiple cores, at least in Windows 7 and with Vegas Pro.