Project Properties progessive vs interlaced at DVinfo.net

Dennis Khaye · July 29th, 2006, 01:28 PM

As I understand it (and PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong) if the footage you shoot will never leave a computer screen (no TV or film) then you want to make your field order in the Project Properties "None (progressive scan)".

but... (this is for film festivals so keep that in mind)

Q1: Are those projection monitors also progressive?

Q2: If you start the project with progressive, edit it, save it, render it, do you have to (a) recapture or (b) start a new project that's interlaced if you want to broadcast?

Dennis Khaye · July 31st, 2006, 06:30 AM

anyone? someone?

Douglas Spotted Eagle · July 31st, 2006, 08:53 AM

no point in recapturing, as odds are that the camcorder you used is interlaced unless it's a DVX100.
You can use Vegas as your deinterlacing tool, it does a very good job, but there are better deinterlacers such as those offered by Magic Bullet or DVFilm.
If you're going to film festivals, you probably want progressive. If you're printing to tape, you likely have no cnoice but to use interlaced, unless you've got a DVX.

Dennis Khaye · July 31st, 2006, 08:13 PM

Thanks for the response.

Canon XL 2 uses progressive doesn't it? So I do have to recapture or can Vegas de-interlace that progressive footage?

What I heard was, progressive is better. It's more picture, less artifacts. When you go to broadcast TV you need to de-interlace or the engineer will kick it back as incompatible. I hope this is right.

So those projection machines that throw an image on the screen, are they progressive, interlaced or doesn't matter because all they do is reflect what they see in which case progressive is better because there's more image to throw?

David Delaney · July 31st, 2006, 10:14 PM

Yeah, I want to know that as well - for projectors (HD), does it matter if it is Interlaced?

Kevin Richard · July 31st, 2006, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis Khaye

So I do have to recapture or can Vegas de-interlace that progressive footage?

Progressive vs interlaced.... you can't de-interlace progressive footage... progressive footage is not interlaced hence your original question.

interlaced is what you are watching on tv right now that is the NTSC standard.

You can capture your footage a hundred different times in Vegas and it will always be one way.. the way you shot it. if you shot it interlaced then it will always capture interlaced if you shot it progressive then it will always be progressive.

Dennis Khaye · August 1st, 2006, 12:10 PM

Actually the MPEG Edit Studio Pro version claims they can convert progressive to interlaced and interlaced to progressive. Not sure if I should post their text or not so I'll just throw the url out there for the curious.
h++p://mmm.kddilabs.jp/en/mpeg/mpro/20/FAQ.htm#b15 (fifth and sixth Q's from the bottom)

According to MPEG Edit Studio Pro, converting progressive to interlaced is easier than interlaced to progressive. So that answers all my questions right there.

Tape everything in progressive mode.

Douglas Spotted Eagle · August 1st, 2006, 12:16 PM

Vegas can turn progressive to interlaced, and interlaced to progressive as well. No magic happening there.

It's all determined by:
Project settings
Render settings
If you acquire Progressive, ie; Panny DVX or Canon XL2, then most folks stay progressive, but if you render to the default templates in DVD Architect, you'll get an interlaced final MPEG.
If you acquire interlaced, you'll edit interlaced, and generally output interlaced. But, you can either use one of a few deinterlacing plugins, or use Vegas built-in deinterlacing tools, and output progressive if you'd prefer.

Dennis Khaye · August 2nd, 2006, 01:09 AM

WONDERFUL, I love Vegas so much. Thanks again Douglas. I appreciate it.

David Delaney · August 2nd, 2006, 10:43 AM

Any have any experience with this? It is necessary and does it help with HD (I am using an FX1)?

July 29th, 2006, 01:28 PM	#1
Dennis Khaye Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 255	Project Properties progessive vs interlaced As I understand it (and PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong) if the footage you shoot will never leave a computer screen (no TV or film) then you want to make your field order in the Project Properties "None (progressive scan)". but... (this is for film festivals so keep that in mind) Q1: Are those projection monitors also progressive? Q2: If you start the project with progressive, edit it, save it, render it, do you have to (a) recapture or (b) start a new project that's interlaced if you want to broadcast?

July 31st, 2006, 08:53 AM	#3
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	no point in recapturing, as odds are that the camcorder you used is interlaced unless it's a DVX100. You can use Vegas as your deinterlacing tool, it does a very good job, but there are better deinterlacers such as those offered by Magic Bullet or DVFilm. If you're going to film festivals, you probably want progressive. If you're printing to tape, you likely have no cnoice but to use interlaced, unless you've got a DVX. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

August 1st, 2006, 12:16 PM	#8
Douglas Spotted Eagle VASST Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Stockton, UT Posts: 5,648	Vegas can turn progressive to interlaced, and interlaced to progressive as well. No magic happening there. It's all determined by: Project settings Render settings If you acquire Progressive, ie; Panny DVX or Canon XL2, then most folks stay progressive, but if you render to the default templates in DVD Architect, you'll get an interlaced final MPEG. If you acquire interlaced, you'll edit interlaced, and generally output interlaced. But, you can either use one of a few deinterlacing plugins, or use Vegas built-in deinterlacing tools, and output progressive if you'd prefer. __________________ Douglas Spotted Eagle/Spot Author, producer, composer Certified Sony Vegas Trainer http://www.vasst.com

August 2nd, 2006, 10:43 AM	#10
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	Connect HD Any have any experience with this? It is necessary and does it help with HD (I am using an FX1)?

July 31st, 2006, 06:30 AM	#2
Dennis Khaye Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 255	anyone? someone?

July 31st, 2006, 08:13 PM	#4
Dennis Khaye Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 255	Thanks for the response. Canon XL 2 uses progressive doesn't it? So I do have to recapture or can Vegas de-interlace that progressive footage? What I heard was, progressive is better. It's more picture, less artifacts. When you go to broadcast TV you need to de-interlace or the engineer will kick it back as incompatible. I hope this is right. So those projection machines that throw an image on the screen, are they progressive, interlaced or doesn't matter because all they do is reflect what they see in which case progressive is better because there's more image to throw?

July 31st, 2006, 10:14 PM	#5
David Delaney Trustee Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Niagara Ontario Canada Posts: 1,121	Yeah, I want to know that as well - for projectors (HD), does it matter if it is Interlaced?

August 1st, 2006, 12:10 PM	#7
Dennis Khaye Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 255	Actually the MPEG Edit Studio Pro version claims they can convert progressive to interlaced and interlaced to progressive. Not sure if I should post their text or not so I'll just throw the url out there for the curious. h++p://mmm.kddilabs.jp/en/mpeg/mpro/20/FAQ.htm#b15 (fifth and sixth Q's from the bottom) According to MPEG Edit Studio Pro, converting progressive to interlaced is easier than interlaced to progressive. So that answers all my questions right there. Tape everything in progressive mode.

August 2nd, 2006, 01:09 AM	#9
Dennis Khaye Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 255	WONDERFUL, I love Vegas so much. Thanks again Douglas. I appreciate it.