Camera Mounted LCD Monitors

John Locke · February 2nd, 2004, 07:24 AM

Aw, Ken... you've got me drooling now, but I can't find it (I was just about to send my monitor off to Nebtek...that's why I was looking for their site. But this stick on version sounds better). Tried every search combination I could think of...no luck.

Any other clues you can give? Remember a brand name, model number...anything?

Ken Tanaka · February 2nd, 2004, 11:09 AM

It is, indeed, Markertek that's selling this item. It's on the inside cover of their new catalog.

Based on their inventory reference I think it's a Delvcam product. Here are the Markertek references.

For Sony, Panasonic, JVC batteries:
DELV-BPSY -- $84.99

For Canon batteries:
DELV-BPCA -- $84.99

For Anton Bauer Gold Mount batteries:
DELV-ABG -- $144.99

It's basically an L-shaped plate to which the LCD monitor can be screwed. The battery mount is on the back of the plate, and has a power lead that would presumably plug into your monitor's power hole. (On the Pana 7" that would probably plug into the female lead of the multi-function cable.)

Good luck.

Kevin Dooley · February 2nd, 2004, 11:25 AM

I have the Panasonic 7" on order (it should arrive in a couple of days) and I just found the Nebtek converter. . .what's the turnaround time on sending in the monitor? I would need this by the end of the month (the 27th) would this be enough time?

Also, as far as mounting. . .I can't afford the B/W viewfinder, and the LCD is vastly superior to the color EVF so I was thinking it might be useful to simply remove the entire EVF fitting (since I don't use the on board mic either) and mount the LCD where the EVF usually mounts. Has anyone attempted this? Does anyone sell a mount like this or would I just have to manufacture something like this?

Ken Tanaka · February 2nd, 2004, 11:39 AM

Kevin,
Call Nebtek regarding their turn-around. They're a small company so I'm sure it varies.

You can run an XL1s without the viewfinder being attached. You just have to deal with toggling the status / menu displays on the external monitor. Experiment when your monitor arrives.

Jim Giberti · February 2nd, 2004, 11:54 AM

Any thoughts on the new Delvcam (bad name) 5.6" Hi res monitor they're advertising? The price is great and you could do the Canon conversion and a flexible tripod stand for around $300.

John Locke · February 3rd, 2004, 06:34 AM

Thanks for scrounging up that information, Ken.

I just stumbled across a surprising new product from Varizoom. Check it out here. It allows you to mount the battery underneath the monitor to prevent the monitor whiplash that I'm sure we've all encountered.

Rob DuBree · February 3rd, 2004, 12:15 PM

Ok Guys... Here's the deal.

I spoke with the owner of Varizoom last week who wanted to know if NEBTEK wanted to stock his new Li-Power option. I like the bottom mounting design for taking care of the "whiplash effect. However I do find that a 5" monitor does not suffer the way a 7" monitor does (as I'm sure Ken can attest to). The only flaw in the design is that it only handles something like 5200MA. Any BP945 will give you 7200MA which is a little over 25% more power. And I can tell you from experience... you want all the power you can get on set.

Yes, Delvcam has blatantly "knocked off" the NEBTEK Li-Battery Adapter... they also copied the double Hotshoe. What are the differences... far too many for me to list in this forum.

Yes there are many monitors we can add a Lithium-ion Battery (or Pro Box) to, and there also those that we cannot. We never really know until we get a look inside. Unfortunately Varizoom is one that we cannot, so anyone who has one (and wants to keep it) will have to look to them for another powering solution.

Why NEBTEK 5" or 7"?

The NEB50 series uses the top of the line Primeview module to give one of the highest resolutions and brightness' available in any 5" monitor without stepping up to HD. And no you don't need a hood unless your in a desert, on the ocean, or have the sun reflecting directly onto the screen.

The Panasonic TC-7WMS1 really speaks for itself. If we could a manufacture a monitor that offered all the "tweaks" and picture quality of this monitor we would have long ago. Because Panasonic kills us on pricing!

Rob DuBree · February 3rd, 2004, 12:21 PM

Ooops, forgot this question...
Turnaround time for a Li- Battery Adapter is 24-48 hours from the time we recieve a monitor. If we have previously added a Li-Battery Adapter to any particular brand of monitor (ie. Panasonic), turnaround time would be cut in half. With enough warning I can even get them back out the same day they arrive.

Chris Hurd · February 3rd, 2004, 12:33 PM

Guys, please allow me to suggest using Nebtek over Delvcam. Nebtek is a smaller company but because of this, it has its advantages. The company rep is right here on this board, whereas the other guys have probably never heard of us. Nebtek is at all the major trade shows, they are accessible, friendly, honest, hard-working -- they are "in the trenches" with the rest of us. Their turn-around is faster, their quality is better. You simply can't go wrong with Nebtek. Hope this helps,

Ken Tanaka · February 3rd, 2004, 01:23 PM

For those unaware, Rob is a representative of Nebtek, and a very good one at that!

Rob DuBree · February 3rd, 2004, 01:31 PM

Mea Culpa... I always forget to identify myself, even though I know half the names on the thread.

Thanks for the compliment Ken, I do my best.

How's the monitor working?

Ken Tanaka · February 3rd, 2004, 01:38 PM

My 'Nebteked' Panny 7" is working perfectly, Rob. Not a glitch.

Rob DuBree · February 3rd, 2004, 01:45 PM

Glad to hear it!
Thank you for referring John. I don't know if we will be able to help him, but I promise I'll do my best. Always need to lend a hand to a fellow Gaijin... Wakaru?

Jim Giberti · February 3rd, 2004, 04:32 PM

While we've got Rob here, isn't the Nebtek 5" considerably higher res than the Panny 7", actually twice the pixel count?

Rob DuBree · February 3rd, 2004, 04:54 PM

Hi Jim,
I'm sorry to say that is not the case...
Although the NEB50XL has the best Primeview module* available for a 5" TFT/LCD, non-HD monitor, the Panasonic still has the edge.

The NEB50XL is 960 x 234 with a total of 224,640 pixels.
The Panasonic TC-7WMS1 is 234 vertical x 480 horizontal x 3 with a total of 336,960 pixels.
I have asked the same question to Panasonic that all of you have asked... " What's up with that confusing resolution?" In the 3 years we have been a Panasonic Authorized Reseller I have yet to get an adequate response, but according to the Pixel count Panasonic would have the higher res.

The viewability of the NEB50XL is better (especially off axis) and the anti-glare/anti-reflective coating on the Primeview module makes it better for outdoor work, but the Panasonic offers all the image tweaks imaginable (Hue, Saturation, Color Contrast, Brightness). You can really make the image "POP", as opposed to the Color & Brightness only controls on the NEB50XL.

*Primeview module's are the same ones that were used in the Transvideo Rainbow series monitors.

Jim Giberti · February 3rd, 2004, 05:21 PM

<<The NEB50XL is 960 x 234 with a total of 224,640 pixels.
The Panasonic TC-7WMS1 is 234 vertical x 480 horizontal x 3 with a total of 336,960 pixels.>>

It's pretty bad marketing on Panny's part, because that 3x is both hard to grasp and missing in the specifications at places like B&H. On paper it looks like a 124k resolution. What is the comparable NIT of the 5" and the 7"? Is the Panny a good outdoor screen? I've owned the Nebtek 5" so I'm very familiar with it's daylight performance (which is great).

It was a resolution issue for me, and I'm really not comfortable on critical shoots with anything less than an Hi Res CRT like the 8045Q. That said, a bunch of upcoming travel shoots won't accomodate it, so I'm back looking for the best res LCD I can pack ight for flight.

Rob DuBree · February 3rd, 2004, 05:45 PM

I couldn't agree with you more. The first question anyone asks me is "What is the resolution?". If they could only come up with a standard resolution that anyone could recognize it would be a much easier sale for me.

The Panasonic NIT lists at not less than 300 cd/m.
The NEB50XL NIT lists at not less than 350 cd/m.

I actually like the NEB50XL better for outdoors (Sundance, Lake Powell, Moab), but I love the picture on the Panasonic when I'm in the studio. As far as replacing a CRT, I just got my hands on the new Panasonic BT-LH900P HD LCD monitor and it is amazing!
Unfortunately when I saw the price I almost had a coronary, and it is bulky monster (forget about mounting it on your camera).

I hear that they are now making the rental lists at most camera houses. It might be a great opportunity to check one out if it is a short shoot and you can get production to pay for it.

Jim Giberti · February 3rd, 2004, 05:57 PM

Rob, is there a # I can reach you at later this week? I'd like to talk about te 7' conversion etc.

Rob DuBree · February 4th, 2004, 11:15 AM

9:30AM - 5:30PM, Mountain Time
801-467-1920

Gareth Trezise · February 8th, 2004, 06:11 PM

Anyone know of a UK supplier of these Panasonic LCD monitors?

Rob DuBree · February 9th, 2004, 10:50 AM

Pro Active UK Ltd.- Neil Hart
18 Brickfields Industrial Estate
Finway Road
Hemel Hempstead, Herts
+44 (0) 1442 253313

Hope this helps...

John Locke · February 9th, 2004, 06:29 PM

Wakarimasu, Rob. Amazing how many ex-gaijins I bump into now.

For now, I'm going to go with the "under battery" solution by Varizoom. Eventually though, probably this year, I'll be looking at getting a larger monitor.

Alexis Vazquez · February 11th, 2004, 09:02 PM

I bought my Nebtek 5" like about a year, it's a great TFT, I only use it whth Tripods and I also made a custom adapter to atached on the back of the camera insteed of using it with the shoe mount, this way I can use the shoemount for on light . The Neb Tek is the way to go.

Alexis

G. Randy Brown · February 14th, 2004, 04:07 PM

Howdy,
I've been putting up with an el cheapo "Starvision" 7 inch LCD monitor that I bought on E Bay (designed for a car but with a shoe mount installed) that is worthless outdoors and the resolution is terrible. After reading this thread I gotta get me one of these 5" Nebteks everyone is talking about. Is there a difference between this:

http://www.zgc.com/zgc.nsf/0/1f4288e...5?OpenDocument

and

http://www.nebtek.com/5inch/NEB50Xlpage.html

other than the price?
TIA,
Randy

Ken Tanaka · February 14th, 2004, 07:40 PM

To my knowledge they are the same. ZGC is reselling the Nebtek monitor.

G. Randy Brown · February 29th, 2004, 10:42 AM

Thanks Ken,
I'm sorry to drag this up again everyone, but I have more questions regarding the Nebtek50XL.
As I mentioned above, I already own a (don't laugh) Starvision 7" LCD monitor (that mounts with a cheesy plastic shoe mount) and a 10 pound battery I have to lug around. The resolution claims to be 234 X 1440 (but I never use 16:9). I love the fact that the Nebtek50XL uses the little Canon baterries but I'd like to know that the Nebtek will indeed make a BIG difference from what I already have. I'm trying to compare apples to apples here, I know the Nebtek's resolution is 960 x 234 but I don't know how that compares to a 16:9 display of 234 X 1440 or if resolution is even important in picture quality. The Nebtek has 224,640 pixels but I don't know the pixel count of my "Starvision". I do know that the color is not representing what the camera records but the image is sharp enough if I turn down (way down) the default color setting. I also know it is useless in the sunlight and I need something I can use in the sun (even if I need to buy another Hoodman (is there another option for a hood, the velcro doesn't hold very well after a few uses).

Thanks very much guys,
Randy

Aaron Koolen · March 30th, 2004, 06:37 AM

Just found this thread, and I was wondering if the Neb50XL would work with the XM2 camera also? I imagine it would with the right video output cable?

Cheers
Aaron

G. Randy Brown · March 30th, 2004, 10:37 AM

Hey Aaron, I went to the link you posted but couldn't find out where to get the free meat : O
Just kidding...sorry. Actually, if the XM2 has an RCA video output it should work fine, right guys?
Randy

Dan Marker · April 11th, 2004, 08:33 AM

the varizoom doesn't offer a 7" and the nebtek's 7" costs too much

what about adding a TM-7002S (Black) 7" TFT LCD Monitor (Panasonic LCD panel) my guy says he can get me one for $150 - could I just get that?

thanks

Dan Marker · April 11th, 2004, 11:45 AM

that or the PYLE® 7.2 INCH LCD COLOR MONITOR I got a friend that will sell me this for about $75 mint condition

February 2nd, 2004, 07:24 AM	#31
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Aw, Ken... you've got me drooling now, but I can't find it (I was just about to send my monitor off to Nebtek...that's why I was looking for their site. But this stick on version sounds better). Tried every search combination I could think of...no luck. Any other clues you can give? Remember a brand name, model number...anything? __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

February 2nd, 2004, 11:09 AM	#32
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	It is, indeed, Markertek that's selling this item. It's on the inside cover of their new catalog. Based on their inventory reference I think it's a Delvcam product. Here are the Markertek references. For Sony, Panasonic, JVC batteries: DELV-BPSY -- $84.99 For Canon batteries: DELV-BPCA -- $84.99 For Anton Bauer Gold Mount batteries: DELV-ABG -- $144.99 It's basically an L-shaped plate to which the LCD monitor can be screwed. The battery mount is on the back of the plate, and has a power lead that would presumably plug into your monitor's power hole. (On the Pana 7" that would probably plug into the female lead of the multi-function cable.) Good luck. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 2nd, 2004, 11:25 AM	#33
Kevin Dooley Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 414	Panasonic 7" conversion I have the Panasonic 7" on order (it should arrive in a couple of days) and I just found the Nebtek converter. . .what's the turnaround time on sending in the monitor? I would need this by the end of the month (the 27th) would this be enough time? Also, as far as mounting. . .I can't afford the B/W viewfinder, and the LCD is vastly superior to the color EVF so I was thinking it might be useful to simply remove the entire EVF fitting (since I don't use the on board mic either) and mount the LCD where the EVF usually mounts. Has anyone attempted this? Does anyone sell a mount like this or would I just have to manufacture something like this?

February 2nd, 2004, 11:39 AM	#34
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	Kevin, Call Nebtek regarding their turn-around. They're a small company so I'm sure it varies. You can run an XL1s without the viewfinder being attached. You just have to deal with toggling the status / menu displays on the external monitor. Experiment when your monitor arrives. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 3rd, 2004, 06:34 AM	#36
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Thanks for scrounging up that information, Ken. I just stumbled across a surprising new product from Varizoom. Check it out here. It allows you to mount the battery underneath the monitor to prevent the monitor whiplash that I'm sure we've all encountered. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

February 2nd, 2004, 11:54 AM	#35
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	Any thoughts on the new Delvcam (bad name) 5.6" Hi res monitor they're advertising? The price is great and you could do the Canon conversion and a flexible tripod stand for around $300.

February 3rd, 2004, 12:15 PM	#37
Rob DuBree NEBTEK Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 54	Ok Guys... Here's the deal. I spoke with the owner of Varizoom last week who wanted to know if NEBTEK wanted to stock his new Li-Power option. I like the bottom mounting design for taking care of the "whiplash effect. However I do find that a 5" monitor does not suffer the way a 7" monitor does (as I'm sure Ken can attest to). The only flaw in the design is that it only handles something like 5200MA. Any BP945 will give you 7200MA which is a little over 25% more power. And I can tell you from experience... you want all the power you can get on set. Yes, Delvcam has blatantly "knocked off" the NEBTEK Li-Battery Adapter... they also copied the double Hotshoe. What are the differences... far too many for me to list in this forum. Yes there are many monitors we can add a Lithium-ion Battery (or Pro Box) to, and there also those that we cannot. We never really know until we get a look inside. Unfortunately Varizoom is one that we cannot, so anyone who has one (and wants to keep it) will have to look to them for another powering solution. Why NEBTEK 5" or 7"? The NEB50 series uses the top of the line Primeview module to give one of the highest resolutions and brightness' available in any 5" monitor without stepping up to HD. And no you don't need a hood unless your in a desert, on the ocean, or have the sun reflecting directly onto the screen. The Panasonic TC-7WMS1 really speaks for itself. If we could a manufacture a monitor that offered all the "tweaks" and picture quality of this monitor we would have long ago. Because Panasonic kills us on pricing! __________________ Robz

February 3rd, 2004, 12:21 PM	#38
Rob DuBree NEBTEK Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 54	Ooops, forgot this question... Turnaround time for a Li- Battery Adapter is 24-48 hours from the time we recieve a monitor. If we have previously added a Li-Battery Adapter to any particular brand of monitor (ie. Panasonic), turnaround time would be cut in half. With enough warning I can even get them back out the same day they arrive. __________________ Robz

February 3rd, 2004, 12:33 PM	#39
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,377 Images: 513	Guys, please allow me to suggest using Nebtek over Delvcam. Nebtek is a smaller company but because of this, it has its advantages. The company rep is right here on this board, whereas the other guys have probably never heard of us. Nebtek is at all the major trade shows, they are accessible, friendly, honest, hard-working -- they are "in the trenches" with the rest of us. Their turn-around is faster, their quality is better. You simply can't go wrong with Nebtek. Hope this helps, __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 3rd, 2004, 01:23 PM	#40
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	For those unaware, Rob is a representative of Nebtek, and a very good one at that! __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 3rd, 2004, 01:31 PM	#41
Rob DuBree NEBTEK Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 54	Mea Culpa... I always forget to identify myself, even though I know half the names on the thread. Thanks for the compliment Ken, I do my best. How's the monitor working? __________________ Robz

February 3rd, 2004, 01:38 PM	#42
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	My 'Nebteked' Panny 7" is working perfectly, Rob. Not a glitch. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 3rd, 2004, 01:45 PM	#43
Rob DuBree NEBTEK Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 54	Glad to hear it! Thank you for referring John. I don't know if we will be able to help him, but I promise I'll do my best. Always need to lend a hand to a fellow Gaijin... Wakaru? __________________ Robz

February 3rd, 2004, 04:32 PM	#44
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	While we've got Rob here, isn't the Nebtek 5" considerably higher res than the Panny 7", actually twice the pixel count?

February 3rd, 2004, 04:54 PM	#45
Rob DuBree NEBTEK Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 54	Hi Jim, I'm sorry to say that is not the case... Although the NEB50XL has the best Primeview module* available for a 5" TFT/LCD, non-HD monitor, the Panasonic still has the edge. The NEB50XL is 960 x 234 with a total of 224,640 pixels. The Panasonic TC-7WMS1 is 234 vertical x 480 horizontal x 3 with a total of 336,960 pixels. I have asked the same question to Panasonic that all of you have asked... " What's up with that confusing resolution?" In the 3 years we have been a Panasonic Authorized Reseller I have yet to get an adequate response, but according to the Pixel count Panasonic would have the higher res. The viewability of the NEB50XL is better (especially off axis) and the anti-glare/anti-reflective coating on the Primeview module makes it better for outdoor work, but the Panasonic offers all the image tweaks imaginable (Hue, Saturation, Color Contrast, Brightness). You can really make the image "POP", as opposed to the Color & Brightness only controls on the NEB50XL. *Primeview module's are the same ones that were used in the Transvideo Rainbow series monitors. __________________ Robz

February 3rd, 2004, 05:21 PM	#46
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	<<The NEB50XL is 960 x 234 with a total of 224,640 pixels. The Panasonic TC-7WMS1 is 234 vertical x 480 horizontal x 3 with a total of 336,960 pixels.>> It's pretty bad marketing on Panny's part, because that 3x is both hard to grasp and missing in the specifications at places like B&H. On paper it looks like a 124k resolution. What is the comparable NIT of the 5" and the 7"? Is the Panny a good outdoor screen? I've owned the Nebtek 5" so I'm very familiar with it's daylight performance (which is great). It was a resolution issue for me, and I'm really not comfortable on critical shoots with anything less than an Hi Res CRT like the 8045Q. That said, a bunch of upcoming travel shoots won't accomodate it, so I'm back looking for the best res LCD I can pack ight for flight.

February 3rd, 2004, 05:45 PM	#47
Rob DuBree NEBTEK Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 54	I couldn't agree with you more. The first question anyone asks me is "What is the resolution?". If they could only come up with a standard resolution that anyone could recognize it would be a much easier sale for me. The Panasonic NIT lists at not less than 300 cd/m. The NEB50XL NIT lists at not less than 350 cd/m. I actually like the NEB50XL better for outdoors (Sundance, Lake Powell, Moab), but I love the picture on the Panasonic when I'm in the studio. As far as replacing a CRT, I just got my hands on the new Panasonic BT-LH900P HD LCD monitor and it is amazing! Unfortunately when I saw the price I almost had a coronary, and it is bulky monster (forget about mounting it on your camera). I hear that they are now making the rental lists at most camera houses. It might be a great opportunity to check one out if it is a short shoot and you can get production to pay for it. __________________ Robz

February 3rd, 2004, 05:57 PM	#48
Jim Giberti Major Player Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bethel, VT Posts: 824	Rob, is there a # I can reach you at later this week? I'd like to talk about te 7' conversion etc.

February 4th, 2004, 11:15 AM	#49
Rob DuBree NEBTEK Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 54	9:30AM - 5:30PM, Mountain Time 801-467-1920 __________________ Robz

February 8th, 2004, 06:11 PM	#50
Gareth Trezise Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK Posts: 83	Anyone know of a UK supplier of these Panasonic LCD monitors?

February 9th, 2004, 10:50 AM	#51
Rob DuBree NEBTEK Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 54	Pro Active UK Ltd.- Neil Hart 18 Brickfields Industrial Estate Finway Road Hemel Hempstead, Herts +44 (0) 1442 253313 Hope this helps... __________________ Robz

February 9th, 2004, 06:29 PM	#52
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Wakarimasu, Rob. Amazing how many ex-gaijins I bump into now. For now, I'm going to go with the "under battery" solution by Varizoom. Eventually though, probably this year, I'll be looking at getting a larger monitor. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

February 11th, 2004, 09:02 PM	#53
Alexis Vazquez Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: USA Posts: 188	I bought my Nebtek 5" like about a year, it's a great TFT, I only use it whth Tripods and I also made a custom adapter to atached on the back of the camera insteed of using it with the shoe mount, this way I can use the shoemount for on light . The Neb Tek is the way to go. Alexis

February 14th, 2004, 04:07 PM	#54
G. Randy Brown Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 288	Howdy, I've been putting up with an el cheapo "Starvision" 7 inch LCD monitor that I bought on E Bay (designed for a car but with a shoe mount installed) that is worthless outdoors and the resolution is terrible. After reading this thread I gotta get me one of these 5" Nebteks everyone is talking about. Is there a difference between this: http://www.zgc.com/zgc.nsf/0/1f4288e...5?OpenDocument and http://www.nebtek.com/5inch/NEB50Xlpage.html other than the price? TIA, Randy

February 14th, 2004, 07:40 PM	#55
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	To my knowledge they are the same. ZGC is reselling the Nebtek monitor. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

February 29th, 2004, 10:42 AM	#56
G. Randy Brown Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 288	Thanks Ken, I'm sorry to drag this up again everyone, but I have more questions regarding the Nebtek50XL. As I mentioned above, I already own a (don't laugh) Starvision 7" LCD monitor (that mounts with a cheesy plastic shoe mount) and a 10 pound battery I have to lug around. The resolution claims to be 234 X 1440 (but I never use 16:9). I love the fact that the Nebtek50XL uses the little Canon baterries but I'd like to know that the Nebtek will indeed make a BIG difference from what I already have. I'm trying to compare apples to apples here, I know the Nebtek's resolution is 960 x 234 but I don't know how that compares to a 16:9 display of 234 X 1440 or if resolution is even important in picture quality. The Nebtek has 224,640 pixels but I don't know the pixel count of my "Starvision". I do know that the color is not representing what the camera records but the image is sharp enough if I turn down (way down) the default color setting. I also know it is useless in the sunlight and I need something I can use in the sun (even if I need to buy another Hoodman (is there another option for a hood, the velcro doesn't hold very well after a few uses). Thanks very much guys, Randy

March 30th, 2004, 06:37 AM	#57
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Just found this thread, and I was wondering if the Neb50XL would work with the XM2 camera also? I imagine it would with the right video output cable? Cheers Aaron __________________ My Website Meat Free Media

March 30th, 2004, 10:37 AM	#58
G. Randy Brown Major Player Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 288	Hey Aaron, I went to the link you posted but couldn't find out where to get the free meat : O Just kidding...sorry. Actually, if the XM2 has an RCA video output it should work fine, right guys? Randy

April 11th, 2004, 08:33 AM	#59
Dan Marker New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 22	the varizoom doesn't offer a 7" and the nebtek's 7" costs too much what about adding a TM-7002S (Black) 7" TFT LCD Monitor (Panasonic LCD panel) my guy says he can get me one for $150 - could I just get that? thanks

April 11th, 2004, 11:45 AM	#60
Dan Marker New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 22	that or the PYLE® 7.2 INCH LCD COLOR MONITOR I got a friend that will sell me this for about $75 mint condition