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Phillip Coolman
November 4th, 2003, 04:28 AM
I mailed mine in at the end of August. I checked my e-mail from Canon and it indicates the check was mailed on Oct 29th. Haven't received the check yet (Nov 3rd). However, it looks like it is taking slightly more than 8 weeks.

Phil

Guest
November 4th, 2003, 02:11 PM
i just got my camera back from canon to have it serviced for the blank white screen that would show up on my lcd and in the service details it says they replaced camera PCB ASSY along w/ some other adjustments.
its more out of curiosity as to what was done to my cam but does anyone know what PCB means?

Chris Fangio
November 4th, 2003, 02:53 PM
PCB = Printed circuit board

Chris F.

Guest
November 4th, 2003, 06:30 PM
would they have had to remove the glass on my lens to get to this?
because it came back with a nice little white speck of something underneath the glass that i now have to send BACK to canon to get fixed...putting all my projects off again for another 2 weeks.

Matt McDermitt
November 5th, 2003, 12:31 AM
Hi, I recently sold my GL2 in the hopes of purchasing the dvx100. Unfortunately I can't seem to get the money together! :)

My question is this: Would it be a good idea to purchase the XM2 (pal version,) even though I live in the US? I am REALLY after the film look and if the XM2 can give me 25P thats damn close enough!!

JUST AS IMPORTANT: Is it easy to convert PAL to NTSC in either After Effects or Vegas 4, once you have exported your final project (in pal)?

PLEASE! ANY HELP YOU CAN PROVIDE ME WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!

Thanks!!!

Matt

Ryan Krga
November 5th, 2003, 12:35 AM
I heard this once, I don't remember where, but I never had the question answered.

Does having image stablization on make the field of view less wide compared to having the image stablization off?

Ryan Krga

Ken Tanaka
November 5th, 2003, 12:56 AM
Hello Ryan.
You might be referring to versions of electronic image stabilization in which the image is oversampled on the CCD. A subset of those "gross" pixels are then recorded after the camera dynamically nudges them in the x/y plane to attempt stabilization.

I don't think that this presents any narrower field of view, since the "gross" area of the picture is not really part of the main frame anyway.

Ken Tanaka
November 5th, 2003, 01:05 AM
Matt,
At first glance it would seem to be a close match, eh? 25fps in Frame mode -vs- 24fps progressive? There have been many discussions on the topic of using PAL in NTSC-land and no definitive answer.

Here are two big factors to consider.

1. Dealing with PAL outside of your computer will be a bit of a hassle, and could become a much more expensive undertaking than just saving-up for the DVX100. For starters, you'll need a PAL-capable production monitor unless you plan to completely stay within the computer realm. There are many dual PAL/NTSC production monitors available but they're not cheap.

2. Buying a PAL camera in the U.S. will probably mean that any repairs will have to be made overseas. Canon's U.S. service facilities are not set up to deal with PAL equipment.

In the end, of course, you will still not have a true 24p camera. If that's what you really want, my advice would be to wait and continue saving for it.

Frank Granovski
November 5th, 2003, 02:56 AM
Someone posted this on dv.com's cam forum. I'm in Hong Kong. Today I went to a shop to order a Canon XM2 (since no shops stock them, it's all by special order). The salesman phoned Canon and was told the model is discontinued, and that they (Canon HK) had not been informed whether a new model will replace the XM2...In any case, it is no longer available. Add this to all the rebates in the USA for the GL2 and XL1s, and it does seem that Canon is on the verge of something. Since I was convinced of getting the XL2, I'm now frustrated. Though if a new and improved model is really coming, it might be worth a little wait. No news on Canon's web sites either in the USA or Asia, though.

Matt McDermitt
November 5th, 2003, 09:54 AM
Your probably right. I think im just going to keep saving for another month or two unless someone gives me a reason to do otherwise! :)

Ken Tanaka
November 5th, 2003, 11:07 AM
It would sure make for a short product life for the GL2...just over a year.

Peter Moore
November 5th, 2003, 01:37 PM
You know what rebates mean: new cameras are on their way!

Mike Altruda
November 5th, 2003, 07:58 PM
sounds like you turned off the "demo" mode sometime.

Trond Saetre
November 6th, 2003, 03:23 AM
The Canon XM2 is still available in Norway.
A local Canon dealer in Bergen, Norway told me today that the XM2 is not discontinued.

Jeff Price
November 7th, 2003, 03:51 PM
Not 10 minutes ago an adult Bald Eagle was circling over my house. Since the GL2 had a tape in it and the battery on (me bad) I went outside and started shooting.

I've always had trouble with focus under these conditions. The auto-focus will work some times, totally blow the focus and other times hunt. The probelm is that the bird in question may not show up large enough in the viewfinder to manual focus on. I feel like I'm close but the viewfinder is not sharp enough to tell for sure. All the while I'm trying to get good focus while holding the camera pointing straight up. If the image is large enough the focus is no problem.

Any tips? My wife's old Sony had a focus setting for infinity that worked well for situations like this. Focus zebras would sure be nice...

Bill Beasley
November 7th, 2003, 09:40 PM
Jeff,

I have experienced this problem many times. I use my GL2 primarily to shoot birds of prey. With distant subjects, the only thing that seems to help is to keep the subject near the center of the picture. Sometimes, if I am zoomed in all the way, I may have to zoom out slightly and the focus "catches up".

If the subject is changing distance rapidly, then the autofocus really has problems. I have not found any solution for this. As a TV news videographer using manually focusing lenses every day at work, I find these autofocus problems very frustrating at times. I rely heavily on the focus ring stop points on "pro lenses" to quickly get me in focus - not possible with most autofocus cameras.

Bill

Bobby Abernathy
November 8th, 2003, 07:01 PM
...of a GL2 :) Took me long enough, but I finally plopped down the cash and bought a kit from Zotz (who rock, by the way). I've been geeking out with it since I received it Thurs. evening, and man, I'm in love. What a great camera. This thing will be paying for itself in no time.

Thanks to this community for helping me make a wise decision.

Graham Bernard
November 9th, 2003, 12:05 AM
. . . and its name is?


Congrats . . . G

Bob Harotunian
November 9th, 2003, 11:39 AM
Out of curiosity, thought I'd try a few lunar eclipse shots with a GL2. These were shot from a city location at full optical zoom, 1/30 and 12db.

http://www.beaconvideo.net/lunar1.htm

Guest
November 9th, 2003, 12:53 PM
they look great, congrats

Richard Lewis
November 9th, 2003, 12:57 PM
Are there any gadgets out there that attach onto the viewfinder (not the LCD) that enlarge the image, so you don’t have to have it close to you eye?

Don Berube
November 9th, 2003, 03:01 PM
I believe that Century Optics is currently working on an adaptor that will enlarge the image on a viefinder such as you mention - perhaps we will see a demo of this at a tradeshow in the near future.

Will keep you posted if I see any more developments.

- don

Don Berube
November 9th, 2003, 03:05 PM
Hey cool. Here is a clip I shot recently with my XL1s using a PL-XL mechanical lens mount adaptor and an Angenieux S16 zoom lens.
http://noisybrain.com/SDTV/PL-XL/moon_jet_angenieux10-150.mov

- don

Danny Santos
November 10th, 2003, 10:48 AM
I should be receiving my dm-50 microphone sometime this week. Now I want to buy VL-3 video light. The problem is GL2 only has one accessory hot shoe.

I am wondering how you guys are set up? I would like to have the DM-50 microphone and the VL-3 light together in my GL2.

OR should I opt for another video light that doesn't use the GL2 hot shoe and what would you recommend?

Many thanks in advance. I am learning ..........

Alan McCormick
November 10th, 2003, 10:51 AM
Danny,

you can get a unit to use both, search the forum as I have seen it somewhere (sorry out of time otherwise I would look for you).

Rob Wilson
November 10th, 2003, 11:06 AM
Danny,

Not sure I've ever seen anything that will add another "Hot" shoe to the GL2. You would need to have both electically connected to the cam and all of the extra hot shoe devices I've seen are a second mount only, no electical connections. Between the two, I would opt for the VL3. I've used it frequently for close up (3-4 ft) interview type stuff and it does a good job of lighting without blinding the subject or annoying others in the area. DM50 is a good mic but there are better ones out there (most would required an XLR adapter though).

Jeff Price
November 10th, 2003, 12:10 PM
I've been playing around with this as well. In my case I've had a Sony 1.7x teleconverter on the camera as well.

I've found that with a typical full moon this arrangment has so much light coming in that the details of the moon get 'blown out'. One way of restoring detail is to turn the ND filter on. The other way is to go to full manual exposure and start "underexposing" until the details are restored. Under these conditions the light meter is pretty much worthless. It may tell you that you are fully underexposed (the sky is). What I've found is that what I'm seeing in the EVF is pretty much what I will see on the monitor as well - so I ignore the light meter.

For the lunar eclipse last Saturday I found I was able to shoot from moonrise until near totality. Most of this time I was at 1/60, 2.8 with no gain. This worked until there was only the barest sliver of a moon left at which point in time I had to kick up the gain. I should have quit while I was ahead as the increase in gain easily shows up as noise in the picture and I'll have to delete the footage anyway. I was not able to capture any of the soft reddish glow at full totality though - just not enough light.

Craig Hollenback
November 11th, 2003, 07:58 AM
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Erwin van Doorne
November 11th, 2003, 01:28 PM
I want to shoot a video-clip, outside during the day. What white balance card color should I use for a very blue, maybe even dark effect. Or should I ad the dark effect in post? Im using FCP.

TIA

Erwin.

Ken Tanaka
November 11th, 2003, 02:33 PM
Erwin,
There are two components to your stated objective: color and exposure.

To make something dark, simply underexpose the image. Be careful not to go too far with this. You'll have more control over your image brightness and contrast with your editing program.

To lend a blue cast to your image you can simply select the tungsten preset white balance. You can also experiment with blue-ish cards such as those from WarmCards.com.

Richard Lewis
November 11th, 2003, 03:38 PM
Thanks

Erwin van Doorne
November 13th, 2003, 01:37 PM
Okay and I want to get some depth of field in my video. I was playing with it, but I never got a good DOF yet. What iris settings work good outside for others, just as a reference and you have to tele (zoom) right, wide angle won't give you much DOF.

Christopher Sexton
November 13th, 2003, 02:30 PM
Anyone here know how I can save the manual settings (white bal/exp/etc) between VCR mode and Camera?

I'd like to be able to review my footage with out looing my settings.

Thanks.

J. Clayton Stansberry
November 13th, 2003, 03:21 PM
Yes, Zoom-in as much as possible.

Then, open the iris up as far as possible, and use the ND filter on the camera and you will have to add a couple others. This will give you the DOF you are after. I don't think adjusting the white balance will affect DOF at all.

Jack Robertson
November 13th, 2003, 10:14 PM
Hello Christopher,

I have had the same question a while back and no you cannot save the setting when you power off or go to VCR mode.

The only way to check your footage without loosing your settings is to follow Brian Dickson's suggestion:

Quote:
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Depending on how much review you need to do, the record search might do the job, without resetting things. Use the two buttons to the rear of the main power switch. Tapping the "record review" button (the one with the loopback icon) will playback the last 3 seconds and automatically return to your previous record point. You can review farther back or forward by holding down the '-' or '+' buttons. Letting go will re-engage record pause right where the tape is at.
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Here is the link to the thread:

http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11540

Cheers,
Jack

Christopher Sexton
November 14th, 2003, 08:34 PM
Hey Jack...I had been using that, and guess I will keep doing it, but sometimes it's just not enough.

Thanks for the info

Valentin Fuhrer
November 15th, 2003, 08:45 AM
Hi...

I have a similar set of considerations, that I'm agonizing over for my camera purchase.

First, Panasonic US assured me that DVX100's (PAL or NTSC) bought from a legit dealer in the US can be serviced here. Unless someone has experience otherwise, I have to assume that this is the case.

As far as editing, I intend to stay entirely in the computer until I need to produce a master for distribution or for DVD. BUT , in this case I would need the services of a post house that has the appropriate equipment (Tape etc) anyway. Since I can't handle this step in production regardless of format, wouldn't I be better off using the PAL DVX100?

I did get hold of a PAL dvx100 to borrow, and shot some footage which came into After Effects fine. I'll next try the same with Final Cut.

If I can work entirely in the computer, is there any point at which it does really become problematic to work from the PAL source? Or do I just do my final output to a particular NTSC format (uncompressed quicktime?)... get my settings right, and let the post house make the master tape etc.

Any ideas , help would be greatly appreciated...

Dirk Mitchell
November 16th, 2003, 02:54 PM
Monroe,
I'm having the same problem with the rewind. This just started, but I've had my camera since March and have had no problems. It's been used quite a bit however.

What ended up being the problem and did you get it fixed?

Thanks.

David Kelvin
November 17th, 2003, 01:00 PM
I've seen a few shorts done with the GL2, and some stuff was actually quite decent. However, I've never heard of any feature films being shot (indie or commercial) with the GL2. It's always the XL1 or the PD-150, etc.

Ken Tanaka
November 17th, 2003, 06:56 PM
That's a good question. Honestly, I don't know of any. The GL2 would pose some challenges for professional dramatic work, most prominently its lack of a professional lens focus control. The Sony PD150 would seem to share the same disadvantage, yet it has been used on quite a few indie features. Ah, but the PD150 has something that the GL2 does not: DVCAM compatibility and pro time code.

So I guess we'll just have to wait to see if anything comes up here.

Brian Huey
November 18th, 2003, 01:59 PM
This is an article about one shot with a GL1: Monsturd (http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/caminfo_user_profile_indie_filmakers_rick_popko_dan_west.htm)

Cheers,
Brian

Kiel Ellington
November 19th, 2003, 12:51 AM
My Canon ZR45 and my Canon ZR 10 both have an eject cassette flashing in the LCD and will not play or record. The ZR45 will eject any tape put in but will not record or play longer than 10 seconds. The ZR10 has a cassette stuck in it. It will not eject it. Is there a way for me to repair on my own? All I need is the know how-or-what is the problem here? Me? Any help would be so great. Thanks Kiel Elligton

Steve Luhr
November 19th, 2003, 01:05 PM
I'd first look hard at why both are exhibiting this problem at the same time. Are you in a humid area, or other demanding environment? Seems fishy to me. Not sure about the error messages with those cameras, but my old Sharp used to say that even in the slightest bit of rain, not necessarily repairable, but worth checking to see if the sensor is off I suppose.

Steve

Brian Kaz
November 20th, 2003, 08:47 AM
While looking for info on OpTex 16x9 lenses, I found this link to a full length film:

http://doradovillagefilms.com/babysbreath/main.htm


They used a GL2 and the OpTex anamorphic lens. The screens look good, but I feel they could have gussied up the look of their film in post a bit.

George Saunders
November 21st, 2003, 07:32 PM
I need to get a spec of dust out from behind the first lens plate on my GL2 by tomorrow morning. Any one know how?

Jeff Donald
November 21st, 2003, 07:56 PM
I posted a reply in your other thread here. (http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17435)

Alan Van Vliet
November 22nd, 2003, 05:34 AM
Douglass Trumball used a filming techique called Showscan (I think it was on 70 mm) in which shooting was done at 1/60 of a second. The effects were almost surrealistic.

Motion at 1/60 appeared to be "slower" than when shot at higher speeds of 1/90, 1/120. etc.

1/60 of a second seems to work well in frame mode. I am curious as to whether or not it well present well in normal mode compared to the speeds a still photographer would use. (1/500 to 1/1000), particularly when looking for quality, sharpness and the ability to get high quality slow motion.

Any thoughts???

Thanks in advance,

Al

Steve Iacono
November 22nd, 2003, 03:57 PM
cuz 1/60 is a slower shutter speed than 1/90 , 1/120 etc

Josh Ray
November 23rd, 2003, 02:40 PM
I'm thinking of purchasing a battery off eBay. It says its compatible with the GL1 and XL1 but doesn't list the GL2. Will it still work?

Jean-Philippe Archibald
November 23rd, 2003, 02:43 PM
Yes, GL and XL series share the same type of battery. Any of the BP-xx batteries (or equivalents) will work on your GL2.