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Old May 22nd, 2007, 11:37 PM   #1
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Sunny Day! 24P Low light and Handheld Test

Finally got around to this. Not as much movie magic as last time because I'm busy with some paying projects.

Someone on forum asked me to shoot a lowlight test and a handheld test with 1/48 Shutter, 24P

I actually shot 2 separate tests. Both handheld, second WMV is low light test.

First Test "Sunny Day"
http://solomonchase.com/HV20/handheld.wmv EDIT: 1st CLIP UPDATED: Fixed interlace, added more panning shots

Second Test "Concert"
http://solomonchase.com/HV20/concert.wmv (in the last band shot the camera is sitting on table)

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Old May 23rd, 2007, 01:54 AM   #2
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How do you avoid image noisy when shooting in dark?

Hi Solomon, I've seen your video tests and was amazed by your shooting.
I can hardly find visible noise point in your low light test. While these image noisy was inevitable when I shot out at night.(I used "Auto" mode with 24p.)
So would you pls tell me how to avoid these noisy? Adjust shutter speed using shutter prior mode OR using post edit technique?
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 09:16 AM   #3
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looks great!

did you lock the shutter at 1/48 and then manually adjust aperture? your setup process would be much appreciated! also, do you have before after shots of the outdoor stuff and what you did in vegas for the CC? i never get great results from vegas...don't know why.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 11:17 AM   #4
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Great looking clips. The night one was a bit shakey, but nice colour correction. I'm guessing the girl at the ATM machine was waving to you!?

The sunny day clip looked great aswell. The bird part was funny. You actually climbed the tree to grab that shot?
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 12:13 PM   #5
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Great looking clips. The night one was a bit shakey, but nice colour correction. I'm guessing the girl at the ATM machine was waving to you!?

The sunny day clip looked great aswell. The bird part was funny. You actually climbed the tree to grab that shot?
:) Yes. I climbed a tree.

The band was "Cool Hand Luke"

Shutter was locked 1/48 and I think 1/24 for a shot or two. Exposure locked and adjusted manually.

Adam, there is a before and after on my first footage thread. It was basically a subtle S-curve on blue, and large highlight curve on red and green. footage was underexposed for more latitude.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 12:32 PM   #6
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EDIT: 1st CLIP UPDATED: Fixed interlace, added more panning shots
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Old May 25th, 2007, 02:44 AM   #7
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Hey Solomon,

Great stuff, really really great. Had a question though, what was your process for de-interlacing? Your 24p (of the recently edited handheld.wmv file) was fantastic looking.

Thanks!
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Old May 25th, 2007, 08:15 AM   #8
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if the footage is 24 "p" why would deinterlacing even be necessary, I thought the footage would be in 24 'full' frames already
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Old May 25th, 2007, 09:35 AM   #9
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its 24p stored in a 60i format
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Old May 25th, 2007, 02:21 PM   #10
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Well looking there, the low-ligt especially shows why this is the best camcorder in it's price range and above ;)
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Old May 26th, 2007, 10:54 AM   #11
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music in first clip?

Solomon,
What is the music in the daylight clip? It's very cool.
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Old May 27th, 2007, 08:54 PM   #12
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I watched your sunny day clip, the 24p motion was very smooth. I have been unable to get that little stutter with such a smooth motion with my hv20 (just recording in 24p and watching directly on tv)

does your video look choppier straight off the camera, and then you make it smoother after capturing to your computer, or would it look the exact same (motion wise) if you just played the raw footage on an HDTV?
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I watched your sunny day clip, the 24p motion was very smooth. I have been unable to get that little stutter with such a smooth motion with my hv20 (just recording in 24p and watching directly on tv)

does your video look choppier straight off the camera, and then you make it smoother after capturing to your computer, or would it look the exact same (motion wise) if you just played the raw footage on an HDTV?
For smooth 24p you'll need to shoot with a 1/48 shutter and remove the pulldown (to get true 24p frames). Also being slower with pans and movements will help
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For smooth 24p you'll need to shoot with a 1/48 shutter and remove the pulldown (to get true 24p frames). Also being slower with pans and movements will help
I've been shooting at 1/48, but i don't think i've 'removed the pulldown.' I just played back the footage i recorded at 24p (and 1/48th shutter) and then played the raw footage back on my TV straight from my camera. I was finding that the footage seemed a bit choppy and a had a weird motion to it.

Is there something I can actually do on my computer that will make this footage look more smooth then what I'm seeing when playing back directly to a TV?? This would make be very happy, because up to now, I'm worried I've spent all this money on the HV20, but haven't yet been satisfied with the motion of the 24p mode.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 07:30 AM   #15
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hi Solomon,

Would your video look as good if you played it straight away thru your hdtv.

Without post editing it?

best,

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