Settings for Shooting a Fashion Show at DVinfo.net

Go Back   DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL and GL Series DV Camcorders > Canon XL1S / XL1 Watchdog

Canon XL1S / XL1 Watchdog
Can't find it on the XL1 Watchdog site? Discuss it here.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old October 4th, 2004, 07:48 PM   #1
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pasadena, CA.
Posts: 53
Settings for Shooting a Fashion Show

Hello Folks,

I have another newbie question. I'm shooting a fashion show next month and I'm wondering how I should setup my xL1-s. I'm planning to shoot pretty much in manual except using auto focus so I can concentrate on the action. I was watching this tv show on the DIY Network called "Making Home Movies". The host was shooting a music video and they recommended shooting with auto focus on. Does that make any sense to do?

Thanks, Jerome
Jerome Terry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 5th, 2004, 12:35 AM   #2
Wrangler
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Southwest Idaho, USA
Posts: 3,063
Hi Jerome,

Most people don't like auto focus because of the 'hunting' factor.

Are you planning to follow the movement at all or just set the thing wide and record?

Basically, if you want zero stress you could use auto focus and accept any focus hunting the camera does. If you want to tend to the camera and shoot for a more professional look, go manual. I rely on that wonderful little button on the lens called "Push AF" when shooting events, but you'd want to practice before the show so you know exactly what it does. A search on this forum would provide better explanations on using it than what I'd give.

Did you have questions about other camera settings, or just this one aspect?
Lorinda Norton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 5th, 2004, 07:33 AM   #3
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: kathmandu, nepal, no kidding!
Posts: 62
Re: Settings for Shooting a Fashion Show

<<<-- Originally posted by Jerome Terry : Hello Folks,

The host was shooting a music video and they recommended shooting with auto focus on. Does that make any sense to do?

Thanks, Jerome -->>>

no sense at all with the xls1. i am in the middle of a rock video that is turning into an "artist's" fashion show (compilation song) and i found manual the only way to go because of changing lighting with motion. the autofocus was, uh, crap. i was a little shocked, as i was thinking of getting the EOS lens adapter and using some of my canon "still" glass, but if that means i have to autofocus those beasts all the time, well, rats.
good luck!
jigs
__________________
For more Adventures of Herojig,
see www.extreme-nepal.com or
go read the NEPALI TIMES every
Friday.
Jiggy Gaton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 5th, 2004, 08:11 AM   #4
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pasadena, CA.
Posts: 53
Thanks for the info Lorinda and Jigs. I use the Push AF button also and it seems to work great. I'm hoping that the light sources in the building where the show is taking place are bright enough to get a good exposure. I'm hoping be in a location in which I will not have to zoom much to cover all the action on runway. I have another friend who has a Canon Optura Xi. He is going to be shooting B roll. So we are going to try to match up our camcorder setting to get the closes possible image. I hope this plan is going to work. 1. First thing is manual white balance. 2. Gain setting to manual. 3. Adjust the aperture.

Jerome
Jerome Terry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 8th, 2004, 10:11 PM   #5
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Brossard, Quebec, Canada
Posts: 142
I do quite a few fashion shows here and here are a couple of tips:

1) Stay away from Auto-focus - I use the Push AF to "kick" the focus in

2) Usually the lighting for fashion shows are unevenly lit and not lit for video camera so I have to constantly "rack" aperture (but do it slowly in such a manner that it is not noticeable) as models comes towards the end of the runways where it's guaranteed to be overly lit. This is more trickier when I'm flying with the Glidecam V16.

3) Vary the shots with tight CU of face and of course the usual tilt up from feet to head as they walk towards you or away from you.

4) See if you can get a 2nd or a 3rd camera for various angles. They can be manned or unmanned. This will give you a choice of edits.

5) If you wil selling this tapes to the fashion designers, make sure you capture their logo

6) Try all sorts of angles including dutch

7) Try some snap zoom ins, zoom outs

8) To get those 'compressed' views of models coming down the runway, position yourself some distance from the runway and on an elevated platform such that you are tilting down somewhat and zoom in as close as possible and you'll get some nice shots this way. It'll look better if your camera is on a tripod.

9) Shoot in FRAME mode for nice a filmlike quality

That's my shooting style. Your mileage may vary.

Have fun

Regards
Norman Woo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 8th, 2004, 10:30 PM   #6
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Pasadena, CA.
Posts: 53
Thanks for all the input Norman!!!
Jerome Terry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 26th, 2004, 03:16 AM   #7
Regular Crew
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 109
Oh really. Try "pushing" the auto fuckup while using the camera on a crane or steadycam.
Dave Stewart is offline   Reply
Reply

DV Info Net refers all where-to-buy and where-to-rent questions exclusively to these trusted full line dealers and rental houses...

Professional Video
(800) 833-4801
Portland, OR

B&H Photo Video
(866) 521-7381
New York, NY

Z.G.C.
(973) 335-4460
Mountain Lakes, NJ

Abel Cine Tech
(888) 700-4416
N.Y. NY & L.A. CA

Precision Camera
(800) 677-1023
Austin, TX

DV Info Net also encourages you to support local businesses and buy from an authorized dealer in your neighborhood.
  You are here: DV Info Net > Canon EOS / MXF / AVCHD / HDV / DV Camera Systems > Canon HDV and DV Camera Systems > Canon XL and GL Series DV Camcorders > Canon XL1S / XL1 Watchdog

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 



Google
 

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:21 AM.


DV Info Net -- Real Names, Real People, Real Info!
1998-2017 The Digital Video Information Network