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Old November 8th, 2002, 02:41 PM   #1
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Shooting footage on mini-dv, then what?

I need to transfer it to Beta sp.....will I loose some picture quality if i do this?
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Old November 8th, 2002, 03:48 PM   #2
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Each time video is duplicated through an analog connection (even component video) it loses some quality. How much gets lost depends a lot on how vigilant the video facility is when the dub is made. Some facilities have better equipment than others, and some are better staffed than others.

I've had dubs made with white levels exceeding 100 IRE, audio EQ and levels tweaked and messed up, etc. One facility took nearly a half-hour just to figure out how to connect one deck to another. I finally bit the bullet and bought a Betacam deck to ensure the master tapes are done properly for the cable show I work on, and it made a big difference. This cable station will require all shows to be submitted on Betacam SP for the next five years so the investment was justified. But I wish I could have spent the money on something else!

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Old November 15th, 2002, 03:27 PM   #3
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Lets say I shoot some stuff and then want to use the firewall and send it straight to the computer, that would be a lot of footage to transfer wouldnt it?

IS there a short cut of some kind? Kinda like pre-editing? But if so then wouldnt that be risky to use the heads in the camera liek that?
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Old November 15th, 2002, 04:22 PM   #4
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A firewire DV transfer is designed to run at 1X tape speed, either direction. So if you have 10 hours of tape to transfer to your computer, yes, it will take 10 hours.

If you can't deal with that, look into products like the Firestore that capture DV footage straight to hard drive live during the filming, instead of to tape.
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Old November 16th, 2002, 06:09 PM   #5
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Direct to hard disk? DSR-DU1

For those who hate transfering from tape to computer, Sony has recently come up with the tiny DSR-DU1 which is a 40gb hard disk that can be attached to the camera, making data files which can be read by Premiere, FCP and some other NLE apps. At the same time, you are making a copy to DV tape!
The Firestore option seems good, but requires the unit plus an external HD, reducing it's portability. The DU1 is tiny (palm size) and looks very sweet! And is isn't so expensive (about $2200??) when one considers the time saved by not having to digitize and the bonus of having a backup tape copy that is in sync with the HD.
However, how well does the Sony work with Canon XL1 etc.? Obviously it would require it's own battery, rather than using the Canon's. (When attached to some Sony Pro cams, it can be used with a battery that powers both the unit and the camcorder - not the prosumer ones, yet). But does the lanc on the Canon sync the HD of the DU1? Any other problems I may not be aware of?


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Old November 17th, 2002, 08:20 AM   #6
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One shortcut involves your NLE. Many times you do not need to copy all your to the computer. Some NLEs allow you to specify what segments you want and then execute a batch capture.

It is still captured at the speed of the cam's tape drive, but you do not have to be there while that is happening.
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