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Old February 5th, 2006, 03:01 AM   #31
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"Then export lower fields first to a sd avi file. "


Yes, I made the change in a SD timeline but...I downconverted to a mpeg file
without intermediary avi files. What codec did you use to make that avi?
Thank you, Joel. Until I get a decent dvd out of my hdv files, I wonīt stop
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Old February 5th, 2006, 06:58 AM   #32
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"Then export lower fields first to a sd avi file. "


Yes, I made the change in a SD timeline but...I downconverted to a mpeg file
without intermediary avi files. What codec did you use to make that avi?
Thank you, Joel. Until I get a decent dvd out of my hdv files, I wonīt stop
Ok... follow closely....

Import Cineform HDV file (Upper fields first) into Premiere Pro SD Timeline ...(lower fields first)
In the time line right click>field options>reverse field dominance...
Export To mpeg using LOWER FIELDS FIRST!!!!!

Should be very crisp & nice...
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Old February 5th, 2006, 09:03 AM   #33
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Joel, what are you using to export to Mpeg? I have had lots of issues with AME. It looks like for my long project Pro Coder is going to work.

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Old February 5th, 2006, 01:48 PM   #34
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AME.... once in a while it crashes but for the most part 90% of the time it works great!

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Old February 6th, 2006, 02:25 AM   #35
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This is what I have done:
Project in Ppro, 720-576, DV PAL, Lower field first
Import HDV files, resize 53,4%
Canopus encoder mpeg file, lower field first, 16/9,

NOW itīs really crisp!!

(changing field dominance in the ppro timeline and
exporting to make a mpeg file with upper field first ends in the
same result)
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Old February 6th, 2006, 09:11 AM   #36
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(changing field dominance in the ppro timeline and
exporting to make a mpeg file with upper field first ends in the
same result)
do not export upper field first, LOWER!
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Old February 6th, 2006, 09:25 AM   #37
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if I use a lower first SD Premiere pro proyect
change field dominance in the timeline, resize hdv files
and export mpeg lower field first...

I have got field problems,
my graphic card is a matrox p650, I believe
Anyway, lower or upper THIS IS THE WAY
My dvdīs can be watched in a interlaced TV set without any problem
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Old March 13th, 2006, 08:01 AM   #38
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daniel,

try my method to make great interaced dvd from cineform 1080i

1. set up 720 x 480 (1.2) in ppro 1.5.1
2. drop HDV file into timeline
3. scale clips manually or set the option to scale clips in the project settings
4.reverse field dominace
5.export to dvd or mpeg using lower field first....

you'll see the great results....

it is important to not reverse fields in the HDV timeline but the 720 x 480 timeline...

joel

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i think you may have tried reversing fields in the HDV timeline....you gotta do it in the DV(NTSC) timeline...
Joel,

I have since seen other posts in other forums that address this issue, but yours was the first I saw and it saved me weeks of additional frustration. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!

I (and I can't be the only one) need SD DVD from my HDV clips for friends and family around the world. I also don't like the letterboxed default that Premiere Pro will give you when outputting an HDV project to DVD, so I resize HDV clips in an NTSC DV project. Here's what I'm pretty sure happens:

1. Premiere Pro imports the Cineform Intermediate AVI clips into the project and assumes they are lower field dominant because you have defined them as such in your project settings!

2. From then on, all output, no matter how defined, will exhibit jerkiness, etc., especially for rapid movement, rapid pans, rapid zooms, etc., since the frames are being assembled incorrectly to start with.

I suspect you can more easily solve the problem with a custom NTSC DV project preset specifying upper first (instead of having to operate on every individual clip to reverse the field dominance), but I haven't specifically tested this yet. I wanted to thank you right away.

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