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Old August 1st, 2012, 11:34 PM   #1
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Playback to HDMI monitor?

I recently got a nanoFlash and a IndiPro 5" HDMI monitor, to use with my Panasonic AF100.

To use the monitor while recording at 24fps, I have to set the E-to-E to On. No problem. But when I want to playback the recording I just made, the monitor says Unsupported.

Now, If I record without any 3:2 pulldown removal anywhere, then yes I can view playback on the monitor; but then when I load the video into Vegas Pro 10, I see 30 frames per second. As far as I know, Vegas has no way to do 3:2 pulldown removal.

So I seem to be stuck without any way to review a 24fps video in the field. Am I missing some obvious solution?

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Old August 2nd, 2012, 09:35 AM   #2
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Re: Playback to HDMI monitor?

Dear Ken,

Many HDMI monitors cannot handle a 1080p24 signal or 1080psf24.

Please feel free to call me so I can discuss this in detail with you.

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HD-SDI monitors can handle a 1080p24 and 1080psf24 signal, but I realize that this is not much help to you right now.

I assume that you have your AF100 set to output 1080p24 or 1080psf24.

Or do you have it set to output 1080p24 with 3:2 Pulldown? This is sometimes called 1080p24 over 60.
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Old August 2nd, 2012, 08:53 PM   #3
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Re: Playback to HDMI monitor?

I think that what you're seeking is a playback telecine of 24p to 60i to a HDMI monitor. This is currently not possible in the current Nanoflash firmware, however, you can preview the clips on a computer in progressive.

For recording, PsF is a better recording mode for recording progressive images. Pulldown detection relies on whether it can detect a cadence for inversing telecine. If it can't, the Nanoflash will refuse to accept signals and will not record.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 02:23 AM   #4
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Re: Playback to HDMI monitor?

Dan and Jack,
Thanks for the responses. It looks like I made the wrong choice of monitor for my specific needs. I'm now looking at the specs and prices for other monitors. The HD-SDI monitors are a bit pricey for me. But Marshall makes an HDMI monitor, the V-LCD51 5" On-Camera Monitor, which they claim can handle "1080p (30 / 29.97/ 25 / 24 / 24sF/ 23.98 / 23.98sF)". Does this sound like it would handle playback from the nanoFlash of recordings done with "Record PSF->Progressive" and "Remove 3:2 Pulldown"?

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Marshall Electronics V-LCD51 5" On-Camera Monitor V-LCD51


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Old August 3rd, 2012, 02:55 AM   #5
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Re: Playback to HDMI monitor?

Hello Ken,
you may consider the Swit 's 5" LCD monitor with both HDMI and 3G SDI inputs as well.

S-1051H :
S-1051H 5-inch 3GSDI&HDMI LCD monitor

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Old August 3rd, 2012, 11:24 AM   #6
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Re: Playback to HDMI monitor?

You might want to look at the SmallHD monitor choices as well.
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Old August 3rd, 2012, 12:27 PM   #7
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Dear Ken,

The specifications that you listed seem to be fine.

However, since I have not personally tested these monitors, it would be best for others with actual experience to comment.
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Old August 12th, 2012, 01:40 AM   #8
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Re: Playback to HDMI monitor?

Thanks everyone for your input. I decided to go with the Marshall V-LCD51 5" monitor. It arrived Thursday, and it works great! It's an HDMI monitor that can handle video from which 3:2 pulldown has been removed... no problems.

I was pleasantly surprised to find that it does peaking with a B+W display and red peaking highlights, as well as pixel-to-pixel magnification, and can do both at the same time. It also has Marshall's false colors filter for exposure judging.
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