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Old June 11th, 2013, 01:41 PM   #1
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4K now for $400

Abel Cine just informed me it's $400 at a SONY service center to now upgrade to 4K
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Hello and thank you for your business with AbelCine.

As an FS700 owner, we would like to inform you of a new upgrade for your camera.

Sony is offering a 12‐bit 2K-RAW & 4K-RAW output upgrade to owners of NEX-FS700U & NEX-FS700UK camcorders. Adding RAW output capability from the NEX-FS700 cameras requires a wide-ranging, internal hardware reprogramming.

This service must be performed at a Sony Professional Service Depot. The cost to perform the upgrade is $400.00 per camcorder, which is the labor cost of reprogramming.
If you would like to upgrade your camera, please contact your regional Sony Professional Service facility (locations and phone numbers below) to schedule the procedure and get informed of anticipated turnaround time. Please note, loaner cameras are not available.


Eastern Service Facility Teaneck
Sony Service Center

123 W. Tryon Avenue

Teaneck, New Jersey 07666

Voice: 201‐833‐5300

E-mail: TeaneckService@am.sony.com



Western Service Facility Los Angeles

Sony Service Center

2706 Media Center Dr., Ste. 130

Los Angeles, California 90065

Voice: 323‐352‐5000

E‐mail: LAService@am.sony.com

Shipping and insurance of the NEX-FS700 to Sony Service is the responsibility of the customer. Sony Service will return the upgraded camera at no charge using Fed Ex Standard delivery. Expedited shipment is available at an additional cost.

Users requiring operational support after this upgrade should contact the Sony Product Operational Support Center (POSC) at 800-833-6817 (M-F 8:00am- 8:00pm EST, excluding Holidays)


Also of note: AXS-R5 Version 1.2 or greater is required to support RAW recording with NEX-FS700 and HXR-IR5.
The cost for the upgrade will be waived if you have purchased the HXR-IFR5 Interface unit. Please include a copy of the purchase receipt with the NEX-FS700 camera and inform Sony service at time of appointment of your purchase.



For more information about the upgrade, please see below:

The upgrade adds “high production value” capability to NEX-FS700 camcorders


* 12-bit 2K-Raw & 4K-RAW recording to the optional HXR-IRR5/ AXS-R5 AXSM RAW recording system.
* 4K-RAW recording up to 60fps. 2K-RAW up to 240fps recordings
* Recording is as long as media capacity allows; there's no limit to clip size!
* 4K-RAW up to 60fps and 2K-RAW up to 240fps recordings write directly to the AXS-512/S24 memory card (when using the ASXM RAW system), without buffering- cutting the wait time for the data to spool from the buffer to the recording media.
* 120fps 4K-RAW recording-to-buffer (Approximately 3.75 seconds record time per burst, 17 seconds 4K playback at 24fps).
* Simultaneous AVCHD recording to internal SD card or external FMU memory unit while recording RAW to the AXS-R5 recorder (proxy is not available while recording HFR).
* Two new gamma curves: S-Log2 and 800% ITU70 are added to the camera.
* Record trigger command are now embedded in the HDMI and SDI uncompressed digital outputs (for outboard recorders).
* The SELP18200 Power zoom lens is supported for use with the zoom lever on the grip of the camcorder
* Additionally, upgraded NEX-FS700 camcorders may also interface with an appropriately configured Convergent Design Odyssey 7Q recorder/ monitor. Please contact Convergent Design or visit their website at Convergent Design | Professional Video Recorders | Gemini 444, nanoFlash, nano3D for important interface details. The Odyssey 7Q utilizes Cinema DNG RAW recording up to 2K 240fps. For 4K recording, the Odyssey 7Q creates DPX files. (corrections coming from Convergent).
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Old June 11th, 2013, 02:18 PM   #2
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Is nice!

Seriously, well done on Sony's part - they delivered what they promised, and it won't cost a mint.
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Old June 12th, 2013, 03:49 AM   #3
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I wish you could spend $400 and instantly start recording 4K footage. However, you need the Interface Unit, the Recorder, and whatever media it takes. Probably looking to spend another $9,000 all over again just to add 4K recording to it. :(
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Old June 12th, 2013, 08:56 PM   #4
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What about new FS700s? Do they come with this upgrade already done? (
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Old June 12th, 2013, 09:27 PM   #5
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I wish you could spend $400 and instantly start recording 4K footage. However, you need the Interface Unit, the Recorder, and whatever media it takes. Probably looking to spend another $9,000 all over again just to add 4K recording to it. :(
I can't count the price of memory - heck, even SD cards cost something. BUT, I take your point. It will be interesting to see how much it will take to get it up and running at 4K from the ground up. I'd guess it will be just under whatever the Canon C300 is going for.
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Old June 19th, 2013, 11:54 AM   #6
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So I guess you need to connect a SDI cable (BNC) from the FS700's 3G output port to a 3rd party external recorder to get 2K or 4K raw does that sound about right?
Aren't there some 3rd party external 4K recorders with 3G/SDI input ports for less than $9K? I thought external SSD 4K recorders were around $4K now days (AJA Ki Pro Quad Solid State 4K Recorder).
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Old June 19th, 2013, 06:03 PM   #7
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What about new FS700s? Do they come with this upgrade already done? (
Sorry Dmitri, looks like they won't be including this until late this year / early next year, if at all. At least based on what they are saying currently. As with everything else, this is subject to change (tomorrow)...

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/sony-nxc...ly-2014-a.html


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Old June 20th, 2013, 07:37 AM   #8
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I addded up the entire package and it came to $19,669.

FS700 with 18-200mm lens $8,100, HXR-IFR5 interface $2,500, AXS-R5 Recorder $5,350, V-mount battery for recorder (BP-FL75) $540, battery charger (BC-L90) $829, AXSM Card $1,800, ASX-CR1 USB 3.0 card reader $550.

For should-mounted use, all that extra weight should help balance out the camera.
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 03:26 AM   #9
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You can use any V-Mount battery, you don't need to use the expensive Sony ones.

You can also use the soon to be released Convergent Design Odyssey 7Q to record 2K raw or 4K compressed from the FS700 (It takes the 4K raw feed, de-bayers it and records it as 4K compressed). The Odyssey is a much more elegant solution and also works out a little cheaper:

Odyssey 7Q $2295, The 2K raw option is $1495, Media is $595 for 240GB, so with two cards to get you going your looking at $4980 USD. You can use any 2.5" SATA adapter to read the cards, prices are from $20 for USB2 to about $40 for USB3 and $100 for thunderbolt.
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 02:26 PM   #10
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Re: 4K now for $400

All this stuff just makes my head spin. I personally don't see the need to jump into all this yet. I'll wait till things are more simple and affordable because this is all one big mess just to get 4k or even 2k at this time.
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 06:21 PM   #11
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The Sony add-ons will let you do 4K at 120fps (for only 4 seconds at a time). The Odyssey 7Q will only do 30fps in 4K.
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 01:45 AM   #12
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All this stuff just makes my head spin. I personally don't see the need to jump into all this yet. I'll wait till things are more simple and affordable because this is all one big mess just to get 4k or even 2k at this time.
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As much as this forum is a lot of help ... it also messes my head up when I see threads like this.

Because now I want one!
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 02:34 AM   #13
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The Odyssey will do 240fps at 2K continuously as will the Sony R5.
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You can also use the soon to be released Convergent Design Odyssey 7Q to record 2K raw or 4K compressed from the FS700 (It takes the 4K raw feed, de-bayers it and records it as 4K compressed).
Alister, Do you know anything about the codec and bitrates for the 4K compressed footage?
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Old June 24th, 2013, 08:40 AM   #15
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Or did you mean UNcompressed, Alister? Because that is what I find on the CD website.
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