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Old April 9th, 2004, 05:05 PM   #121
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TRV950 or TRV940E

Hello,

I am about to buy a TRV950 from B&H. Just noticed they also offer TRV940E for extra $100 with 90-Day B&H warranty.
So, my question: is there any point to prefer PAL camcorder over the NTSC one? I mostly care about the video quality. Have anybody noticed any difference in perception because of some extra lines and/or different frame rate?

I live in USA and in Russia, so any format is acceptable for me. However I've been using TRV30 NTSC for two years. Collected about 30 tapes of archived videos.

So I am thinking if it makes sense to switch to another standard for higher video quality...

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Old April 9th, 2004, 05:37 PM   #122
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Welcome to dvinfo, Vasily! Isn't the TRV940 the TRV950 but without the bluetooth? Where do you do most of your shooting (Russia or USA, indoor or outdoor)? What is the footage for? Where does most of your footage go?
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Old April 9th, 2004, 05:58 PM   #123
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Thanks!

Maybe you are right about the Bluetooth. I was never paying any attention to this feature and I missed it again. For me bluetooth is not important at all. Am I correct when I assume that 950 and 940E are the same models (excluding bluetooth) except one is for NTSC and another is for PAL.

I am an amateur videographer :) All the footage I make for myself and my friends, nothing for sale.
Most of my shootings I do outdoor in America, but who knows, might be very soon I will be taping indoor in Russia
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Old April 9th, 2004, 06:17 PM   #124
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It's just that using a PAL cam in the USA will cause flickering with some indoor lighting. Bluetooth is pretty much useless on cams. Do you convert your NTSC footage for your friends? Via a multi-system converting VCR?
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Old April 9th, 2004, 06:35 PM   #125
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Oh, right! Good to know. Is that because the electricity supply in the USA has 60 Hz while the PAL makes 50 fields per sec?

About converting... When I have to make a VHS cassette, yes, you are right, I am using Samsung SV-5000W for that. However it happens not that often. Usually I make DVD disks. Fortunately in Russia all DVD players can play NTSC disks on PAL TV sets.
Sometimes I make DivX files for viewing on a computer.
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Old April 9th, 2004, 07:08 PM   #126
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Is that because the electricity supply in the USA has 60 Hz while the PAL makes 50 fields per sec
Yes. But it also depends on the kind of lighting. Only some kinds of lighting gives me problems with my PAL cam.
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Old April 11th, 2004, 02:08 PM   #127
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Frank,
so you are using a PAL camcorder in the USA. Any regrets, some other dissatisfactions?
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Old April 11th, 2004, 03:30 PM   #128
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I'm not using a PAL cam in the USA. I live in Canada. Using PAL in Canada---which is also NTSC.

For me there are no "regrets...dissatisfactions" because I was aware of the limitations before I bought PAL. All my shooting isn't PAL though. Most of it is NTSC these days.
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Old April 24th, 2004, 09:22 PM   #129
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Vasily,

If your country's TV system is PAL, then I strongly suggest that you get a PAL cam.

It's quite troublesome to convert from one system to another.

Also, please take note that most Sony consumer models use an "E" to indicate PAL system.

Usually, PAL cams are slightly more expensive than NTSC (no idea why).

There are 950 and 950E, 940 and 940E.

950s = Bluetooth + browser + stylus.

Since Bluetooth is becoming more popular now, and, more and more mobile phones are equiped with Bluetooth and GPRS, it may be useful in some situation.

I remember I once used my 950E to take some stills and sent them back via Bluetooth+mobile GPRS to my boss when I was abroad sourcing for some equipments. It's indeed useful.
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Old April 27th, 2004, 02:16 PM   #130
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DCR TRV950 in 16:9 mode

I am a little confused, does the DCR TRV950 also record in the 16:9 mode or is this only a feature of the DSR PDX10 ? If the TRV 950 does record 16:9 is the quality the same.
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Old April 27th, 2004, 02:43 PM   #131
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It has a 16:9 mode but it is not a true 16:9 so there is quality loss in the picture. The pdx10 will shoot true 16:9 though.
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Old April 27th, 2004, 04:12 PM   #132
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the 950 has an excellent 16:9 mode

http://www4.big.or.jp/~a_haru/SO/TRV...ide/resoDV.jpg
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Old April 27th, 2004, 10:38 PM   #133
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I think the 950's 16:9 mode, even though it does not use a wider portion of the CCD than 4:3 mode like the PDX10 does, still uses enough pixels to produce an image better (resolutionwise) than that of native DV resolution cameras like the PD170. You will get a slightly sharper, slightly cleaner (less noise) picture from a PDX10 in comparison to a '950 thanks to it using a larger surface of the CCD (more pixels). Also it seems the 950 does not include the same 14-bit image processing hardware as the PDX10, so there could also be better color fidelity with the latter. This is all theory, though. I have operated and read about the '950 but I don't have one and have never tried it side by side with my PDX10. Would be great for somebody who actually owns both to compare and post pictures... anybody?
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Old April 28th, 2004, 08:55 AM   #134
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Old April 28th, 2004, 09:13 AM   #135
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Wow Boyd. Thats pretty interesting. All this time I thought there would be a significant loss in resolution when using 16:9 on the TRV950. Guess I was wrong.
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