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Old February 12th, 2004, 07:32 AM   #31
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> Buy a pdx10 PAL, get 20 pct more resolution,
> shoot as clean as you can and then play with the
> picture in post. Should look very nice.

Yes, should look nice. I actually thought about doing this, using a tool which I think is called DVFilm Atlantis. It's a great idea if you have the time for all that processing. And if you are transferring to film it should make even more sense. But I do some TV work so the prospect of processing everything just was not too attractive... also: in my market it costs more to get hands on PAL equipment.
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Old March 27th, 2004, 07:50 AM   #32
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I am thinking that applying a little motion blur will help achieve the film look for this reason. If you think about it there is persistance beyond the 1/60 or even 1/30 (1/24) for film that allows some after image to remain with the eye causing a slight overlap, in the mind anyway, of the preceeding and next images. A slight motion blur might help simulate this effect that would be naturally happening in your mind in a theater.

Just a thought.

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Old March 27th, 2004, 08:03 AM   #33
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On the Mac, Joe's Filters provides a nice plug-in for this. I found it useful for making computer animation look a bit more like real footage. Certainly worth experimenting with, but a good deinterlacer will probably do what you want. Joe's Filters also has that, or another option is DVFilm Maker.
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Old March 27th, 2004, 08:11 AM   #34
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Boyd, have you tested the new DV Film Maker yet that does 24p? I tried it but got very bad flicker that made it unusable.

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Old March 27th, 2004, 01:55 PM   #35
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Motion Blur and more

Yes. Motion Blur is the way to go. In FCP I can control the strength and the amount of samples for motion blur. The more samples, the more render time, the smoother it looks.

If I add to this some non-linear transfer function (like Stib's Film Curves) then I get a really very 'film like' result. Well actually what I see is similar to that of film transferred to video.

Applying 'film' curves helps get more contrast from the mids, this especially helps if I underexpose a bit, wich also keeps the highlights from being slammed video style.

I also like to do other non-linear stuff like desaturating highlights and lowlights, you can do this with one of Apple's plugs.

It is also possible to use Stib's curves to seperately affect color channels, adding a non-linear tint to the picture. This makes for a really nice effect as seen on many music videos.

Of course, any blurring will --well-- blur the picture a little bit. This might seem like a resolution loss sometimes, but it has the added advantage of reducing noise and chroma artifacts, which is something good if using Stib's Film Curves or something like that with DV-originated material.

So as you see it all kind of fits together, 'film' curves, motion blur, underexposure.

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CHV Silk & Fog:
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I would love to post some footage but I can't right now because of bandwidth and space limitations.

Sorry for the long post. Hope it helps.
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Old March 28th, 2004, 06:47 PM   #36
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Could you repost that link? The "..." are confusing my browser as the link was shortened somehow.

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Old March 28th, 2004, 11:30 PM   #37
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Ok, sorry for the inconvenience. Added some direct links and fixed the original one.
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