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Old March 16th, 2007, 01:57 PM   #1
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David Mamet vs. Hollywood

Sounds like his new book would make a great movie! ;-)

http://www.forbes.com/2007/03/16/mam...mametbook.html

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Mamet's advice for surviving in this rank swamp is equally brutal. "Feel free to treat everyone like scum," he deadpans, "and should they rise to wealth and power, any past civility shown toward them will either be forgotten, or remembered as some aberrant and contemptible display of weakness."
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Old March 16th, 2007, 02:27 PM   #2
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I read the book a few weeks ago. It's very entertaining and he even provides the long-lost screenwriting secret of the incas and explains why Galaxy Quest is a perfect movie.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 12:09 AM   #3
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Galaxy Quest?! That's surprising to me.

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Old March 21st, 2007, 01:53 PM   #4
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That movie is perfect, as is The Fifth Element.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 02:10 PM   #5
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Mamet is arguing that Galaxy Quest is perfect in terms of dramatic structure.

A perfect film, he writes, starts ". . . with a simple premise and then proceeds logically, and inevitably, toward a conclusions that is both exciting and inevitable . . . . A washed-up bunch of television actors curse the long-gone success of their show; it has mired them in supermarket openings, portraying cut-out heros; they are given the chance to inhabit that fantasy turned real and discover, in themselves, real heroism."

Story is told without fat, that is, without any extra scences to distract the audience's attention from the plot.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 02:42 PM   #6
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I'll probably catch heat for this but, those movies (Galaxy Quest and The Fifth Element) are two of my all time favorites. I own both of them.

Just simply well done. Besides, the girl from The Fifth Element can stay with me anytime! What a great job of appealing to the protective nature of the human male.

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P.S.: Just ordered the book.

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Old March 21st, 2007, 04:35 PM   #7
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Guys I like the Fifth Element okay, but perfect? No way!

I've never been good with the in-depth critical film analysis, but at the very least, that movie is tonally uneven, which I really despis.

What I mean is, for 2/3 of its length or so, it's a fairly campy film, lots of humor mixed in with the action/light drama. Toward the end, the humor goes away and it gets very serious. What's up with that?
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Guys I like the Fifth Element okay, but perfect? No way!

I've never been good with the in-depth critical film analysis, but at the very least, that movie is tonally uneven, which I really despis.

What I mean is, for 2/3 of its length or so, it's a fairly campy film, lots of humor mixed in with the action/light drama. Toward the end, the humor goes away and it gets very serious. What's up with that?
It's the end of the world, for real! And, there was humor toward the end too. Remember Mom's phone call! :)

I still love it! Big bad-a-boom!

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Old March 21st, 2007, 05:58 PM   #9
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I don't remember that bit, actually.

Not saying there weren't a few jokes in that last act (I rememeber the awkward sex scene at the end), but compared to the tone of the first 2/3 of the movie, it's pretty different.

Art School Confidential is another example--

*POSSIBLE SPOILER*

Starts out as a pretty decent piece of intelligent comedy/satire, then becomes a very serious drama/murder mystery halfway through.
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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:16 PM   #10
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I've never been good with the in-depth critical film analysis...
I had to take a Film Theory class...Ugh! Talk about really getting into a movie a little too much. I received an A- in the class, but for a long time, I couldn't look at movies the same way. I would just start analyzing it.

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Old March 21st, 2007, 09:27 PM   #11
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I had to take a Film Theory class...Ugh! Talk about really getting into a movie a little too much. I received an A- in the class, but for a long time, I couldn't look at movies the same way. I would just start analyzing it.

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That's the problem in getting into this. You start to analize things too much. I remember back in the 70's when I ran the post theater in Germany, and I learned about cues and reels etc., and since then I could not watch a move without out looking for the cues and such. That was very minor compared to what I look for now!!!!!!!!!

Now you/I can tear everything apart. OK, so most of it needs to be torn apart. But, sometimes you just want to enjoy the movie!

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I was a film student and a film projectionist in film school a decade ago. No one liked going to the movies, because I'd comment on the way they shot it to how the theatre presented it. Usually said comments were negative. The film theory class was last year, before I graduated. Whew, that was a tough class.

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Old March 22nd, 2007, 08:24 AM   #13
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Toward the end, the humor goes away and it gets very serious. What's up with that?
A lot like life one might say.

I liked the 5th Element, but it's not mentioned in Mamet's book. He kindly has a list of all the films mentioned as an appendix.
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I'll probably catch heat for this but, those movies (Galaxy Quest and The Fifth Element) are two of my all time favorites. I own both of them.
Ditto. They're absolutely diverting and I can watch either more than once. 90 minutes of sheer fun.

OTOH, I think Miller's Crossing is pefect. I could watch that almost daily.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/...ford_ads_mamet

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