Another Bug

Ron Cooper · December 14th, 2008, 05:57 AM

I have an event, "Ignore event grouping" was turned on, (accidentally), I then cut a section ( two places) & removed it & then realised on dragging the far one back that it was not grouped with the audio. However, it made no difference when I turned I.E.G. off or on, they just would not group. - Is this a bug or not ?

RonC.

Don Bloom · December 14th, 2008, 06:07 AM

no. first get the A&V sync'd. Easiest way is right click on Audio, then goto MOVE (by slipping)-once sync's highlight both and press G to group the 2. Now when you have Ignore Event Grouping turned OFF you should be fine.
To me what is a "bug" and always has been since version 2 is being able to determine that IEG and some others is ON or OFF. The icons don't really tell the story.
Maybe it just my old eyes.

Don

Edward Troxel · December 14th, 2008, 07:12 AM

When you split them separately with Ignore Event Grouping turned on, you killed THEIR initial grouping as well. Bug? probably not. Unintended result? definitely.

Ron Cooper · December 14th, 2008, 02:29 PM

Thanks Don & Edward.

I thought it might be something like that, but I am still surprised that it would act this way as the original event was virtually from the camera & perfectly synced.

Surely I.E.G. is either ON or OFF, regardless of what happened before, - and yes Don, there could be a more obvious indicator when these switches are applied. Wih my elderly eyes I realise that all these things are designed by young people with excellent vision.

RonC.

Graham Bernard · December 15th, 2008, 12:34 AM

Well, Ron, how would it be for those of us that do not want the Grouping to remain AFTER a split? Can you imagine that? Here I go and repeat your process, with all the intention of killing the grouping relationship ONLY to find that at some point the Grouping was STILL in effect? Now how would THAT be? Can you imagine the mess I could get into?

Grazie

Ron Cooper · December 15th, 2008, 03:38 AM

Yes Graham, I can imagine, as it is like my previous post, you would expect the thing to do as you selected, - ON or OFF, regardless of what went on before, - not stubbornly have a mind of its own.

RonC.

December 14th, 2008, 05:57 AM	#1
Ron Cooper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 481	Another Bug - Ignore event grouping I have an event, "Ignore event grouping" was turned on, (accidentally), I then cut a section ( two places) & removed it & then realised on dragging the far one back that it was not grouped with the audio. However, it made no difference when I turned I.E.G. off or on, they just would not group. - Is this a bug or not ? RonC.

December 14th, 2008, 07:12 AM	#3
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	When you split them separately with Ignore Event Grouping turned on, you killed THEIR initial grouping as well. Bug? probably not. Unintended result? definitely. __________________ Edward Troxel [SCVU] JETDV Scripts/Scripting Tutorials/Excalibur/Montage Magic/Newsletters

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December 14th, 2008, 06:07 AM	#2
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	no. first get the A&V sync'd. Easiest way is right click on Audio, then goto MOVE (by slipping)-once sync's highlight both and press G to group the 2. Now when you have Ignore Event Grouping turned OFF you should be fine. To me what is a "bug" and always has been since version 2 is being able to determine that IEG and some others is ON or OFF. The icons don't really tell the story. Maybe it just my old eyes. Don

December 14th, 2008, 02:29 PM	#4
Ron Cooper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 481	Thanks Don & Edward. I thought it might be something like that, but I am still surprised that it would act this way as the original event was virtually from the camera & perfectly synced. Surely I.E.G. is either ON or OFF, regardless of what happened before, - and yes Don, there could be a more obvious indicator when these switches are applied. Wih my elderly eyes I realise that all these things are designed by young people with excellent vision. RonC.

December 15th, 2008, 12:34 AM	#5
Graham Bernard Old Boot Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London UK Posts: 3,633	Well, Ron, how would it be for those of us that do not want the Grouping to remain AFTER a split? Can you imagine that? Here I go and repeat your process, with all the intention of killing the grouping relationship ONLY to find that at some point the Grouping was STILL in effect? Now how would THAT be? Can you imagine the mess I could get into? Grazie

December 15th, 2008, 03:38 AM	#6
Ron Cooper Major Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 481	Yes Graham, I can imagine, as it is like my previous post, you would expect the thing to do as you selected, - ON or OFF, regardless of what went on before, - not stubbornly have a mind of its own. RonC.