Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Edward Troxel · March 16th, 2004, 08:24 AM

You'll also notice, if you look below the preview window, that the framerate drops as well. Yes, things can look funny the more effects you add.

Edward Troxel · March 16th, 2004, 08:26 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Jefferson : Yes you can but no audio will be available.. -->>>

Depends on the audio format of the DVD. If the audio is AC-3 then no audio will be available. If the audio is PCM, it will play the audio fine.

Remember, the VOB file is really an MPEG file and Vegas will use it with the same limitations as other MPEG files.

Edward Troxel · March 16th, 2004, 08:30 AM

Alpha channels are only saved if you render uncompressed AND check the alpha channel box anyway.

This IS a good thing for people to check if they are having problems transferring between applications. Another option would be to use Satish's Frameserver software and frameserve from Vegas to the other application. This should also bypass the 2Gig limit (as there really is no file).

Ian Stark · March 16th, 2004, 09:23 AM

Just a thought - is there any way to convert an avi that has been rendered as OpenDML to non-OpenDML (ie without having to re-render the entire .veg project)?

Thinking about it, I suppose that one could put the OpenDML avi on the timeline and render that with"save as OpenDML" unchecked.

Would there be any loss of quality doing it this way do you think?

Interesting to learn about Frameserver. I shall explore!

Michael Moore · March 16th, 2004, 09:54 AM

Hey guys & gals,
I am working on a intro to my documentary. I want to get something that looks "raw" or "hard" (I hate words like that - they sound so Hollywood). Anyway, I know where I can get the fonts I like. The problem I am having is that I am trying to get the flicker and jagged look. I tried the "film" filter in Vegas and that was okay but not the same. Is there somewhere where you can download more filters and or effects?
thanks
Michael

Cosmin Rotaru · March 16th, 2004, 10:05 AM

In PAL land, DVDs could also have mp3 sound. I guess that's also ok for Vegas?

Dwight Flynn · March 16th, 2004, 03:46 PM

Hi folks, after spliting the video using the "S" command in Vegas how do I join the sections back again (not as a transition but a straight cut, edit and join). Sorry if this is a very basic question, but I have not been able to find the answer anywhere else

Glenn Chan · March 16th, 2004, 03:51 PM

I really like the fonts over at High fonts http://www.highfonts.com/freetop.asp?f=0 and hopefully they'll have what you're looking for.

Quote:

I am working on a intro to my documentary.

lol.... (yeah yeah I'm sure you get Michael Moore jokes all the time)

Federico Dib · March 16th, 2004, 04:01 PM

Hi, I don´t know if I should post this on the DVD Web Delivery forum or here... but here I go..

What exactly do I need to correct in order to get accurate color when exporting to web?

So now I explain the question:

When I edit anything in vegas.. the Preview monitor shows an image.... I correct colors based on what I see there.. and on a small TV... And allthoug darker on the PC monitor.. I´m allready getting the hang of it.. and the results for TV playback are very accurate...

But when I render anything to say AVI or WMV, (or any other format).. and playback on WMP or REAL ONE it shows very very dark.. (and let´s not even talk about Qtime)

I know PC monitor is usually darker than a TV, but I find myself doing way too much trial and error when color correcting something that´s destined for web.
Now, to shorten the trial and error times, I want to make sure I´m correcting the right thing.

Is it gamma?, Brightness? contrast?....

Any magic tools? Suggestions?

Edward Troxel · March 16th, 2004, 04:01 PM

There is no built-in method for doing so. However, here's a couple of ways it can be accomplished:

1) Delete the section to the right and then drag the left one to fill the area vacated by the right one.

2) Automate the above process using Excalibur

Edward Troxel · March 16th, 2004, 04:05 PM

There are several third party effects available. Some that quickly come to mind:

Boris (various products including Red)
Zenote (various products based ont the BigFX FilmFX tools)
Pixelan
Satish's tools at debugmode.com

Dwight Flynn · March 16th, 2004, 04:19 PM

Edward, I have never used Excalibur. I believe that is your product (I may be wrong). How do I obtain it?

Edward Troxel · March 16th, 2004, 04:23 PM

Just click on the link on the word "Excalibur" in the previous post. All necessary information is there. In fact, you can download the demo version and try it out (15 runs before it times out).

hymnchoir · March 16th, 2004, 06:44 PM

Edward, I tried the link: http://www.jetdv.com/tts, but could not view the articles. Any sugesstions for successful viewing?

Edward Troxel · March 16th, 2004, 09:09 PM

The best way is to right-click the links and choose Save - File As to bring the file to your hard drive. You can then open them any time you want.

They probably WERE opening, you just didn't wait long enough. They are, generally speaking, between 1 and 1.5 megs in size.

Hymnchoir, you also need to edit your account to your real name. This is a requirement on this forum.

March 16th, 2004, 09:23 AM	#814
Ian Stark Inner Circle Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,237	Just a thought - is there any way to convert an avi that has been rendered as OpenDML to non-OpenDML (ie without having to re-render the entire .veg project)? Thinking about it, I suppose that one could put the OpenDML avi on the timeline and render that with"save as OpenDML" unchecked. Would there be any loss of quality doing it this way do you think? Interesting to learn about Frameserver. I shall explore! __________________ www.vit-media.com www.classicmachinefilms.co.uk

March 16th, 2004, 09:54 AM	#815
Michael Moore Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Vancouver Posts: 94	TEXT somthing like (Fight Clubs) Hey guys & gals, I am working on a intro to my documentary. I want to get something that looks "raw" or "hard" (I hate words like that - they sound so Hollywood). Anyway, I know where I can get the fonts I like. The problem I am having is that I am trying to get the flicker and jagged look. I tried the "film" filter in Vegas and that was okay but not the same. Is there somewhere where you can download more filters and or effects? thanks Michael

March 16th, 2004, 10:05 AM	#816
Cosmin Rotaru Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Romania, Timisoara Posts: 453	In PAL land, DVDs could also have mp3 sound. I guess that's also ok for Vegas? __________________ Cosmin Rotaru

March 16th, 2004, 03:46 PM	#817
Dwight Flynn Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 393	Newbie question about Joining after a "S" command split Hi folks, after spliting the video using the "S" command in Vegas how do I join the sections back again (not as a transition but a straight cut, edit and join). Sorry if this is a very basic question, but I have not been able to find the answer anywhere else

March 16th, 2004, 04:01 PM	#819
Federico Dib Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 312	What correction do I need to apply for web exporting? Hi, I don´t know if I should post this on the DVD Web Delivery forum or here... but here I go.. What exactly do I need to correct in order to get accurate color when exporting to web? So now I explain the question: When I edit anything in vegas.. the Preview monitor shows an image.... I correct colors based on what I see there.. and on a small TV... And allthoug darker on the PC monitor.. I´m allready getting the hang of it.. and the results for TV playback are very accurate... But when I render anything to say AVI or WMV, (or any other format).. and playback on WMP or REAL ONE it shows very very dark.. (and let´s not even talk about Qtime) I know PC monitor is usually darker than a TV, but I find myself doing way too much trial and error when color correcting something that´s destined for web. Now, to shorten the trial and error times, I want to make sure I´m correcting the right thing. Is it gamma?, Brightness? contrast?.... Any magic tools? Suggestions? __________________ Messenger Boy : The Thessalonian you're fighting, he's the biggest man I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to fight him. Achilles : That is why no one will remember your name.

March 16th, 2004, 08:24 AM	#811
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	You'll also notice, if you look below the preview window, that the framerate drops as well. Yes, things can look funny the more effects you add.

March 16th, 2004, 08:26 AM	#812
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	<<<-- Originally posted by Peter Jefferson : Yes you can but no audio will be available.. -->>> Depends on the audio format of the DVD. If the audio is AC-3 then no audio will be available. If the audio is PCM, it will play the audio fine. Remember, the VOB file is really an MPEG file and Vegas will use it with the same limitations as other MPEG files.

March 16th, 2004, 08:30 AM	#813
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Alpha channels are only saved if you render uncompressed AND check the alpha channel box anyway. This IS a good thing for people to check if they are having problems transferring between applications. Another option would be to use Satish's Frameserver software and frameserve from Vegas to the other application. This should also bypass the 2Gig limit (as there really is no file).

March 16th, 2004, 04:01 PM	#820
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	There is no built-in method for doing so. However, here's a couple of ways it can be accomplished: 1) Delete the section to the right and then drag the left one to fill the area vacated by the right one. 2) Automate the above process using Excalibur

March 16th, 2004, 04:05 PM	#821
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	There are several third party effects available. Some that quickly come to mind: Boris (various products including Red) Zenote (various products based ont the BigFX FilmFX tools) Pixelan Satish's tools at debugmode.com

March 16th, 2004, 04:19 PM	#822
Dwight Flynn Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York, NY Posts: 393	?Excalibur? Edward, I have never used Excalibur. I believe that is your product (I may be wrong). How do I obtain it?

March 16th, 2004, 04:23 PM	#823
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	Just click on the link on the word "Excalibur" in the previous post. All necessary information is there. In fact, you can download the demo version and try it out (15 runs before it times out).

March 16th, 2004, 06:44 PM	#824
hymnchoir New Boot Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6	Edward, I tried the link: http://www.jetdv.com/tts, but could not view the articles. Any sugesstions for successful viewing?

March 16th, 2004, 09:09 PM	#825
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	The best way is to right-click the links and choose Save - File As to bring the file to your hard drive. You can then open them any time you want. They probably WERE opening, you just didn't wait long enough. They are, generally speaking, between 1 and 1.5 megs in size. Hymnchoir, you also need to edit your account to your real name. This is a requirement on this forum.