Vegas Video discussions from 2004 (Q1Q2)

Edward Troxel · April 27th, 2004, 10:37 AM

If you re-render as low, I would assume you would delete the original. Otherwise there's NO reason at all for using low-rez during the editing phase. Personally, I'd just stick with full rez throughout.

Glen Elliott · April 27th, 2004, 11:24 AM

The whole reason for that workflow (capturing and editing in low res first before master) is to help speed up the responsiveness of the NLE beings it's dealing with low res footage and effects won't take as much of a toll on framerate.

Why not just capture in high res (standard) and edit using the video preview window in Preview mode. Once your ready for your final render just render it out at full res.

Peter Moore · April 27th, 2004, 12:08 PM

Can Vegas 5 do reverse pulldown of 60i footage (such as laserdisc or VHS films)? And can you set the offset and polarity manually like with virtualdub? Thanks a lot.

Michael Estepp · April 27th, 2004, 02:04 PM

I actually wanted to capture in low res because I thought it would save room on my hard drive.... even one gig counts, ya know?

Rob Lohman · April 27th, 2004, 02:07 PM

I would use VirtualDub for that. Why? Because Vegas to the best
of my knowledge will only handle inverse telecine with DV footage
that is marked as such. I don't think it has any manual options
in that regard.

You can always try out the demo of 5, ofcourse....

Peter Moore · April 27th, 2004, 02:52 PM

Yeah I have used VirtualDub and it works great. But sometimes I notice that the 3:2 offset actually changes in the middle of the footage, in which case I really need a good NLE to help me spot those points and then change them on the fly without having to wait until everything's output before I realize halfway through it's messed up. :)

But I will for sure be downloading the 5 demo. I just want to see if it's worthwhile before upgrading, since I'm strapped for cash between Gigastudio 3.0 and the possibility of an XL2 successor on the horizon. :)

John Haskins · April 27th, 2004, 07:29 PM

Thank you all very much. i have had my eye on the ULTRA key from Serious Magic - for lots of reasons, including the virtual sets. Nick, thanks a bunch for the extra info also.
I dont want to have to do a bunch of extra tweaking and detail work to get a good lookin, professional key.

Andy Shrimpton · April 27th, 2004, 08:05 PM

Hi Guys!

This may be a bit OT but I'll run it any way.

A friend of mine is going to get me to produce a 5 - 6 min promo for his business in Vegas, and put it on DVD. (Could be my first pro job - here's hoping!)

He then wants to run the DVD on his ;aptop, but display it on a screen or Overhead projector.

What's the best way for him to achieve this?

Thanks in advance!

Andy

Kim Kinser · April 27th, 2004, 08:11 PM

I have a SONY TRV27, TRV120, and TRV460

April 28th, 2004, 12:45 AM

I am using Vegas to create training videos for students in a university science course. I am trying to position text at precise places in the frame and then animate its motion using keyframes. I find this very tedious to do in Vegas because it is time consumming to get the position of the text accurately placed. I have been using either motion tracking or the pan crop tool. Movements of the text are coarse and Vegas updates the display slowly. This makes it difficult to quickly position the text where I want it. Using the arrow keys for movement is precise but slow. In addition The Vegas Media Generator cannot make superscripts and subscripts in the text (unless another layer is used.) This means using photoshop to make graphics files instead. Can anyone suggest a better way.

David Mintzer · April 28th, 2004, 07:00 AM

Try this ---Open and create your text using Media Generator. Then click on the Placement tab in the Video Media Generator dialogue box. Position your text and create your key frames---This is super fast---I have used many dedicated titlers and none are this fast. No need to consider other software unless you are doing complex titling.

Guy Bruner · April 28th, 2004, 07:00 AM

You might want to consider a separate titling software, like Blufftitler.

Edward Troxel · April 28th, 2004, 07:08 AM

In Vegas 5, you can make use of the new track nesting compositing ability to move multiple tracks as a group. Just make them all children to a blank track and use Track Motion on that parent track.

Sean Smith · April 28th, 2004, 07:28 AM

I will have to agree with Nick. I use DVMatte with Vegas and it was money well spend. Eventhough I could use Vegas keyer, the DVMatte is well worth the time having to import and export the footage. Vegas doesn't hold a candle to this plug-in.

Duncan Smart · April 28th, 2004, 07:51 AM

Er, plug the projector into the laptop, insert the DVD into the laptop...

April 27th, 2004, 12:08 PM	#1473
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Reverse Pulldown (Inverse Telecine) with Vegas 5? Can Vegas 5 do reverse pulldown of 60i footage (such as laserdisc or VHS films)? And can you set the offset and polarity manually like with virtualdub? Thanks a lot.

April 27th, 2004, 02:07 PM	#1475
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I would use VirtualDub for that. Why? Because Vegas to the best of my knowledge will only handle inverse telecine with DV footage that is marked as such. I don't think it has any manual options in that regard. You can always try out the demo of 5, ofcourse.... __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 27th, 2004, 08:05 PM	#1478
Andy Shrimpton Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Robina Queensland Australia Posts: 73	DVD to Screen Hi Guys! This may be a bit OT but I'll run it any way. A friend of mine is going to get me to produce a 5 - 6 min promo for his business in Vegas, and put it on DVD. (Could be my first pro job - here's hoping!) He then wants to run the DVD on his ;aptop, but display it on a screen or Overhead projector. What's the best way for him to achieve this? Thanks in advance! Andy __________________ 'This one goes to eleven' Nigel Tufnell

April 28th, 2004, 12:45 AM	#1480
John Hopkins Posts: n/a	Text Motion Tracking I am using Vegas to create training videos for students in a university science course. I am trying to position text at precise places in the frame and then animate its motion using keyframes. I find this very tedious to do in Vegas because it is time consumming to get the position of the text accurately placed. I have been using either motion tracking or the pan crop tool. Movements of the text are coarse and Vegas updates the display slowly. This makes it difficult to quickly position the text where I want it. Using the arrow keys for movement is precise but slow. In addition The Vegas Media Generator cannot make superscripts and subscripts in the text (unless another layer is used.) This means using photoshop to make graphics files instead. Can anyone suggest a better way.

April 27th, 2004, 10:37 AM	#1471
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	If you re-render as low, I would assume you would delete the original. Otherwise there's NO reason at all for using low-rez during the editing phase. Personally, I'd just stick with full rez throughout.

April 27th, 2004, 11:24 AM	#1472
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	The whole reason for that workflow (capturing and editing in low res first before master) is to help speed up the responsiveness of the NLE beings it's dealing with low res footage and effects won't take as much of a toll on framerate. Why not just capture in high res (standard) and edit using the video preview window in Preview mode. Once your ready for your final render just render it out at full res.

April 27th, 2004, 02:04 PM	#1474
Michael Estepp Regular Crew Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 95	I actually wanted to capture in low res because I thought it would save room on my hard drive.... even one gig counts, ya know?

April 27th, 2004, 02:52 PM	#1476
Peter Moore Trustee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 1,034	Yeah I have used VirtualDub and it works great. But sometimes I notice that the 3:2 offset actually changes in the middle of the footage, in which case I really need a good NLE to help me spot those points and then change them on the fly without having to wait until everything's output before I realize halfway through it's messed up. :) But I will for sure be downloading the 5 demo. I just want to see if it's worthwhile before upgrading, since I'm strapped for cash between Gigastudio 3.0 and the possibility of an XL2 successor on the horizon. :)

April 27th, 2004, 07:29 PM	#1477
John Haskins Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Byron Center, MI Posts: 29	Thank you all very much. i have had my eye on the ULTRA key from Serious Magic - for lots of reasons, including the virtual sets. Nick, thanks a bunch for the extra info also. I dont want to have to do a bunch of extra tweaking and detail work to get a good lookin, professional key.

April 27th, 2004, 08:11 PM	#1479
Kim Kinser Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Voorhees, NJ Posts: 82	I have a SONY TRV27, TRV120, and TRV460

April 28th, 2004, 07:00 AM	#1481
David Mintzer Rextilleon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 520	Try this ---Open and create your text using Media Generator. Then click on the Placement tab in the Video Media Generator dialogue box. Position your text and create your key frames---This is super fast---I have used many dedicated titlers and none are this fast. No need to consider other software unless you are doing complex titling.

April 28th, 2004, 07:00 AM	#1482
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	You might want to consider a separate titling software, like Blufftitler.

April 28th, 2004, 07:08 AM	#1483
Edward Troxel Sponsor: JET DV Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 7,953	In Vegas 5, you can make use of the new track nesting compositing ability to move multiple tracks as a group. Just make them all children to a blank track and use Track Motion on that parent track.

April 28th, 2004, 07:28 AM	#1484
Sean Smith New Boot Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD area Posts: 22	I will have to agree with Nick. I use DVMatte with Vegas and it was money well spend. Eventhough I could use Vegas keyer, the DVMatte is well worth the time having to import and export the footage. Vegas doesn't hold a candle to this plug-in.

April 28th, 2004, 07:51 AM	#1485
Duncan Smart Tourist Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1	Er, plug the projector into the laptop, insert the DVD into the laptop...