DV timecode help! at DVinfo.net

May 24th, 2004, 07:52 AM

Hi all,

I'm a bit new at this, so please bear with me.

I imported some images from miniDV to my desktop using Premier Pro 7.0. When I use Premier Pro, I can see/use the timecode that's embedded on the miniDV. Does anyone know of a way to show the timecode on top of the images? It seems like Premier would easily be able to handle this, but I haven't been able to find anything on it.

Thanks in advance!!!

Rachel

Rob Lohman · May 25th, 2004, 02:15 AM

It's a long time since I've used Premiere (never did use Pro), but
if I remember correctly there was either a filter or setting on the
clip that enabled this. Try looking around in the filters for a time-
code generator (should display your DV timecode) or in the
properties of a clip.

May 25th, 2004, 08:02 AM

Hmm... I took a good look around to all the effects and settings. When I look at the properties of the clip, they're non-editable (is that a word?) and they don't have the information I was looking to change.

Rachel

Ed Smith · May 25th, 2004, 12:43 PM

I don't think Premiere supports BITC (Burned-in TimeCode). Like you I can't see it either, nor can I find it in the help file.

Rob Lohman · May 26th, 2004, 04:12 AM

I must have been mixing up with Vegas then. I'm using it all the
time there. I can't imagine it not having it. If I get the change
I'll see if I can find a demo of Premiere and look around.

Ed Smith · May 26th, 2004, 05:07 AM

Searching though the Premiere forums on Adobes website it seems as though Adobe have not inclued this feature in. After Effects has it...

While trawling the forums, people were mentioning this program: http://www.2writers.com/download.htm. It might do what you are after, I have not used or tested it.

Cheers,

Ed

Ed Frazier · May 26th, 2004, 05:59 AM

I'm pretty sure I read that this has been added in the recent update to PPro (V1.5). This update has just started shipping and information should be available on the Adobe site.

K. Forman · May 26th, 2004, 06:25 AM

I haven't used Pro either, but using v6.something, if you select a clip and go to clip>advanced options>timecode, it should allow you to set the timecode. However, I have not used this feature, so I can't say that it is what you want, or that it will be in Pro. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

May 26th, 2004, 07:46 AM

Hi again,

Here's what I found after looking at all of your suggestions:

1. I used the utility that Ed suggested. It looks like it would be a solution, although the long way around. It creates a long sequence of bitmaps of timecode. Then I can insert it into my clip. (I'm going to have a lot of clips to do this to.) However, the utility crashed before I could get my bitmaps.

2. Adobe has not included it in their upgrade, as far as I can tell from the propaganda at adobe.com. Please tell me I'm wrong! :D

3. Adobe does have BITC capability; it just can't transform that information onto the actual video. When you do a capture, for example, you use the BITC.

4. The feature I'm looking for is not in After Effects. (if it was, I don't think I'd be able to get it.. silly grant budget)

I think that covers it. Thanks so much for all your help!

Rachel

Ed Frazier · May 26th, 2004, 08:20 AM

Hi Rachel,

I couldn't find the TC feature in any Adobe documentation either, but further checking indicates that this feature will be implemented as a new Real Time effect in the Matrox driver for PPro 1.5. Sorry to get your hopes up if you are not a Matrox user.

Ed Smith · May 26th, 2004, 08:47 AM

I got a feeling that Ed Frazier is right in the fact the Matrox X. Tools V6 will support BITC. However you will need to buy the RTX 100 PCI card to benefit.

There are other tools on the net. Rachel if you do a google search for 'Burned in timecode in premiere' there are a few other solutions.

I do hope that Adobe adds this as a standard feature...

Matthew de Jongh · May 27th, 2004, 02:39 PM

premiere pro doesn't support the timecode on the screen...

it can be done in vegas or in after effects.

i have to dig it up but what i did was to make an avi file that has the timecode running from all zero's up to an hour and a few minutes and you just put that on a video track above your real program.

crude but effective.

of course you need two versions if some of what you do is 24p

when i dig it up i'll post it somewhere to share.

matthew

May 24th, 2004, 07:52 AM	#1
Guest Posts: n/a	DV timecode help! Hi all, I'm a bit new at this, so please bear with me. I imported some images from miniDV to my desktop using Premier Pro 7.0. When I use Premier Pro, I can see/use the timecode that's embedded on the miniDV. Does anyone know of a way to show the timecode on top of the images? It seems like Premier would easily be able to handle this, but I haven't been able to find anything on it. Thanks in advance!!! Rachel

May 25th, 2004, 02:15 AM	#2
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	It's a long time since I've used Premiere (never did use Pro), but if I remember correctly there was either a filter or setting on the clip that enabled this. Try looking around in the filters for a time- code generator (should display your DV timecode) or in the properties of a clip. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 25th, 2004, 12:43 PM	#4
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	I don't think Premiere supports BITC (Burned-in TimeCode). Like you I can't see it either, nor can I find it in the help file. __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

May 26th, 2004, 04:12 AM	#5
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	I must have been mixing up with Vegas then. I'm using it all the time there. I can't imagine it not having it. If I get the change I'll see if I can find a demo of Premiere and look around. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 26th, 2004, 05:07 AM	#6
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	Searching though the Premiere forums on Adobes website it seems as though Adobe have not inclued this feature in. After Effects has it... While trawling the forums, people were mentioning this program: http://www.2writers.com/download.htm. It might do what you are after, I have not used or tested it. Cheers, Ed __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

May 25th, 2004, 08:02 AM	#3
Guest Posts: n/a	Hmm... I took a good look around to all the effects and settings. When I look at the properties of the clip, they're non-editable (is that a word?) and they don't have the information I was looking to change. Rachel

May 26th, 2004, 05:59 AM	#7
Ed Frazier Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 343	I'm pretty sure I read that this has been added in the recent update to PPro (V1.5). This update has just started shipping and information should be available on the Adobe site. __________________ Ed Frazier

May 26th, 2004, 06:25 AM	#8
K. Forman Capt. Quirk Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Middle of the woods in Georgia Posts: 3,596	I haven't used Pro either, but using v6.something, if you select a clip and go to clip>advanced options>timecode, it should allow you to set the timecode. However, I have not used this feature, so I can't say that it is what you want, or that it will be in Pro. Sorry I can't be more helpful. __________________ www.SmokeWagonLeather.us

May 26th, 2004, 07:46 AM	#9
Guest Posts: n/a	Hi again, Here's what I found after looking at all of your suggestions: 1. I used the utility that Ed suggested. It looks like it would be a solution, although the long way around. It creates a long sequence of bitmaps of timecode. Then I can insert it into my clip. (I'm going to have a lot of clips to do this to.) However, the utility crashed before I could get my bitmaps. 2. Adobe has not included it in their upgrade, as far as I can tell from the propaganda at adobe.com. Please tell me I'm wrong! :D 3. Adobe does have BITC capability; it just can't transform that information onto the actual video. When you do a capture, for example, you use the BITC. 4. The feature I'm looking for is not in After Effects. (if it was, I don't think I'd be able to get it.. silly grant budget) I think that covers it. Thanks so much for all your help! Rachel

May 26th, 2004, 08:20 AM	#10
Ed Frazier Major Player Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 343	Hi Rachel, I couldn't find the TC feature in any Adobe documentation either, but further checking indicates that this feature will be implemented as a new Real Time effect in the Matrox driver for PPro 1.5. Sorry to get your hopes up if you are not a Matrox user. __________________ Ed Frazier

May 26th, 2004, 08:47 AM	#11
Ed Smith Wrangler Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hampshire, England Posts: 1,545	I got a feeling that Ed Frazier is right in the fact the Matrox X. Tools V6 will support BITC. However you will need to buy the RTX 100 PCI card to benefit. There are other tools on the net. Rachel if you do a google search for 'Burned in timecode in premiere' there are a few other solutions. I do hope that Adobe adds this as a standard feature... __________________ Ed Smith Hampshire, UK Good things come to those who wait My Skiing web www.Frostytour.co.uk For quick answers Search dvinfo.net \| The best in the business: dvinfo.net Sponsors

May 27th, 2004, 02:39 PM	#12
Matthew de Jongh Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: sounthern maine Posts: 344	premiere pro doesn't support the timecode on the screen... it can be done in vegas or in after effects. i have to dig it up but what i did was to make an avi file that has the timecode running from all zero's up to an hour and a few minutes and you just put that on a video track above your real program. crude but effective. of course you need two versions if some of what you do is 24p when i dig it up i'll post it somewhere to share. matthew