Canon GL2 and Premiere Pro
 

Has anyone had any luck capturing to Adobe Premiere 6 via firewire. If so, what setting. I see that the GL1 is listed, so I tried that to no avail. Premeire doesn't recognize the device at all. Oddly enough my friend's Avid Express works just fine.

I know this was discussed some time ago, but since the GL2 has been out for a while now, someone has had to have figured this out.

Any ideas??

Tom

BTW, Win2K, P4 1.8G etc.

Hallo Tom, I've tried the xm2 with Premiere 6 and 6.5. It was a real Plug'n'Play. I've connected the camera, the first time he ask some drivers of windows or the firewire card. Then I turn on the camcorder and started premiere. the connection was here even with the standard dv control settings.

Maybe is your firewire card not configured correctly.

I too have not had any issues with Premiere 6 or 6.5 with my GL2 (I'm running 2K as well)

Interesting. What settings are you using for device control. I have Device Control 2.0 with Canon and the GL1A setting. Is this different on yours?

Thanks,

Tom

Hallo Tom,
I'm using win98 with the sound blaster audigy ex as firewire card. My actual device control is Control 2.0 with Canon Standard but it also worked with Control 2.0 standard without setting to Canon.

What kind of firewire card do you have?

VHS --> GL1 --> Premiere
 

I would like to transfer VHS Footage to Premiere, My Idea is to connect the VIDEO out of my VCR and connect it to the GL1's AV/ IN/OUT and from there connect the GL1 Firewire cable to the computer and capture the video with Premiere.

Problem. I can't seem to get this to work. Probabbly because this camera does not do Analog to Digital Instantly. Has anyone here done this with success?

(I do know how to do it by recording it to the MiniDV and then playing it back into premiere but is there anyway to do this with out RECORDING to a DV Tape.

Maybe this is one of the upgrade features in the GL2? It is explained on page 103,104 and 106 of the GL2 manual.

You are right, the gl-1 cannot do the pass through. You need to record it to the dv tape, and then to the computer. The gl-2 does have that feature, though. I just got a gl-1 myself, Yay!

Sooo.. EARLIWorm

"I just got a gl-1 myself, Yay!" Does that mean you are happy you DON'T have pass thru- because you just your GL-1? OR are you mistyping your response because you're so enthusiastic 'bout your NEW GL-2? Please clarify as I'm confused.

Reagrds - Grazie

I have a gl-1.
Yeah, I am very happy with it. I do not really need the pass through. It would be nice, But I can deal without it.

hi
i was wondering if the pass-through capability is solely dependent on the camera rather than the capture card and/or burning software...

thanks

I think you can buy a capture card that can do analog pass through. IM not sure tho.

Firewire with Premiere 6.0
 

I am wondering what I am doing wrong when trying to capture video from my GL2 to premiere 6.0 via firewire. I am connecting the firewire to the included port in the back of my Dell. I turn the gl2 on before opening premiere, as people have advised. When I go to video capture, it will play the video smoothly in the preview screen, and allow me to capture. However, when i play back caputured files, it just shows about a frame every second. So a 10 second clip is maybe a dozen frames. Is the problem that the GL2 is not listed under the canon cameras you can select from in the capture settings? I have tried selecting the GL1 instead, as well as leaving it as a generic device.

Any advice from someone (who perhaps has the same setup) would be greatly appreciated.

When you are playing back and your camera is hooked up to the computer through firewire still it will play through the camera. Just take the sucker out of the computer, then playing back should be fine.

Thanks a lot Ryan. I forgot about that in my ignorance in using firewire devices. I just got the GL2 a week ago, and before that i only had an analog vidcam.

Haha, no problem, I think that has happened to all of us at one point in time.

GL2 Freezing on Dumping in Premiere
 

I know some might think this goes in the NLE forum but since its pertaining only to GL2 users I want to keep this here please.

I have a problem with my GL2 where it will only capture 54 frames in Premiere until the picture on the capture freezes (it stops counting the amount of frames captured but doesn't show any dropped) and the GL2 keeps playing. My friend's GL2 does this on occasion with his Premiere 6.5 however I have the problem with all versions of Premiere.

Both mine and his will capture with other programs, however sometimes they turn out choppy.

Has anybody had anything similar happen with their GL2 and Premiere?

I'm asking in the GL2 section because I already have a post in the NLE and it describes the problem in more detail.

Forgot to add the only difference is in my Friend's GL2 and capturing, his will randomly start working for him to capture the entire thing??

I use Premiere Pro. The only capture "quirk" I've noticed so far is that it won't work if I've got the tape re-wound to the very beginning -- time code 00:00:00. If I advance the tape just a bit, capture works fine. I've successfully captured sequences in excess of 45 minutes in length.

Have you ever used any other Premiere version?

Were you experiencing the same problem where it will start to capture...then it will freeze on the computer, like a freeze frame on the capture preview window but the tape will still be playing?

I think I am going to format when I get home and try this without the windows updates...see if that changes anything. Because both comptuers I've tried this on have every single update downloaded!!

Yes, I've successfully performed captures on Premiere 6.5. I use a Dell Dimension 8200, 3.06 processor, with Win XP Pro. All updates and service packs have been installed. No, I haven't experienced your problem -- just the one issue that I mentioned in my first post.

Not GL-2
 

I don't believe the problem is related to your GL-2 as I had the same problem with a JVC. It would start and at about 62 frames it would stop. I also don't think its Premeire. Premeire indicates no dropped frames which means it thinks the incoming signal is correct. The camera is playing just fine. The problem is between the camera and the software. Could be drivers for your firewire card if its third party. I think I updated my chipset drivers (Nforce) and that took care of it for me. If you have a via chipset you might try updating it as well. I haven't had time to read your other post so if this doens't apply disregard.

I have the same problem. My solution is like Jim's, if the tape is at the very beginning where no timecode is displayed then I hit play on the Premiere monitor window until I see the picture (a couple seconds) then hit the capture button. I've captured complete 60minute tapes this way without dropped frames.

I'd used to get pretty frustrated when it lock up after 50-60 frames then I rewind back to the beginning and it do it again!

Cheers,
Brian

I'll have to try that when I get home, starting with no timecode.

Ryan, the only reason I thought it was my GL2 is my TRV38 dumped fine on my computer, I haven't changed anything since I got my GL2, and my friend's GL2 also had the same problem. If this doesn't work I think I'll format and not try windows updating, I remembere there being and update for the DV Codec for firewire cameras or it was for something along those lines and I'm thinking maybe that changed something that is causing this problem.

I tried doing what Brian and Jim said and started playing then hit record!! It works!!! Its still stupid how I have to do that but I'll stop complaining now that I got it to work!!

I think Premiere needs a little timecode "run up" from an existing point before it gets fully synched. (It doesn't know how to count from zero.) Of course, that's just a guess on my part. Glad it's working for ya!

GL2 and Premiere Pro
 

Hello all. I've enjoyed reading the many, many posts in the last few days and I've learned many things I didn't know about my camera. Now it's time to ask a question I don't see that anyone else is having an issue with:

When importing DV into Premiere Pro, I ALWAYS have problems. When the stream first starts, I frequently get errors such as "lost connection with camera" and "cannot find time code" (or something to that effect). None of my other cameras have this problem, albeit they are all Sony cameras. Sometimes I can get around this problem by playing the tape for a second or two before I actually hit the record button in the premiere window. Once I get it going, I normally don't have any problems.

Anyone else experience this? I do still have Prem 6.5 installed on my video machine, but I haven't tried it.

yep
 

Mine doesn't do that, but it does record audio weird. Every now and then the audio will start to pop or make this crackle sound while previewing in the capture screen and also while capturing. If it captures bad audio then I have to go back and try capturing again. Sometimes one segment will pop and crackle then I go back and capture it again and it doesn't do it. It's weird dude. It's clearly not on the tape. It's only during capture and previewing before capture in the adobe pro. Doesn't that suck.


Scott

I've been working on a wedding project for the last couple of days in which all my b-camera footage was off by 11 frames from it's audio. This was not the case when played back on my JVC DVdeck or my GL2 so I decided to check the Adobe Forums when I saw your post and viola, I found a fairly extensive FAQ on things to check... I won't be able to do anything until Tuesday, so if any of these work, let me and everyone else know!

Miguel

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Audio playback troubleshooting guide for Adobe Premiere Pro

This document can help you resolve audio problems that occur while you use Adobe Premiere Pro. Performing these tasks can help you resolve the most common problems.

To benefit most from this document, perform the tasks in order. Keep track of the tasks you perform and the results of each, including errors or other problems. Adobe Technical Support can use this information to better assist you, should you need to call.

Before performing any of these tasks, back up all personal files (for example, Adobe Premiere Pro files you created).

1. Check your connections.

Ensure that your speakers, capture card audio ports, and DV devices are properly connected.

2. Make sure that the system meets the requirements for the capture card.

Some capture cards require special cabling, settings, and drivers to enable audio playback. For more information, refer to the documentation for your capture card.

3. Install the recommended installation of QuickTime.

Install or reinstall QuickTime, and select the Recommended or Full installation. The problem can occur if the Minimum version of QuickTime is installed.

4. Ensure that Adobe Premiere Pro has finished conforming audio.

When you import audio into a project, Adobe Premiere Pro conforms the audio, converting it to the project's audio sample rate. While Adobe Premiere Pro conforms audio, it may not play correctly. A status bar in the lower right bottom of the screen displays the progress while Adobe Premiere Pro conforms audio.

5. Specify a new location for conformed audio files.

If the folder in which a project's conformed audio files are stored is full or inaccessible, Adobe Premiere Pro returns the error, "Disk Write Error. Verify drive connections, available disk space and disk access privileges. Then save, close and re-launch the project." If you receive this error, specify a new location with available space.

To specify a new location for conformed audio files:
1. Find and note the current location of conformed audio files. The default location of conformed audio files is My Documents/Adobe/Premiere Pro/7.0/Conformed Audio Files.
2. Choose Edit > Preferences > Scratch Disks and then specify a location for Conformed Audio.
3. Save, and close the project.
4. Delete the old Conformed Audio folder.

6. Update the playback settings to play audio on audio hardware.

By default, Adobe Premiere Pro previews audio through the DV device to external speakers only. If you change the audio playback to Play Audio on Audio Hardware, Adobe Premiere Pro plays audio through the computer's hardware and speakers.

To update the playback settings to play audio on audio hardware:
1. Choose Project > Project Settings> General.
2. Click Playback Settings.
3. Choose Play Audio on Audio Hardware.
4. Click OK to close the Project Settings dialog box.

7. Update the audio sampling rate of your project to match the audio sampling rate of your clip.

Clicks or pops may occur during playback if the audio sampling rate of your clip differs from the audio sampling rate of your project. Create a new Adobe Premiere Pro project with the same audio sampling rate setting as the media clips, and then import the old Adobe Premiere Pro project into the new one.

8. If the problem is specific to a clip, test the media file in another application.

Check the media file by playing it in an application such as Windows Media Player outside of Adobe Premiere Pro. If you can't hear the clip when you use an alternative application, recapture or replace the clip and test again.

9. If the problem is specific to a track, ensure that the audio is enabled and not muted.

Ensure that the audio has been enabled for the track in the Sequence, and that the track has not been muted in the Audio Mixer.

nope
 

All that is setup properly. It's during capture that this happens. While I'm watching the footage for the first time in the capture screens preview window. If I rewind and try it again it may not pop and crackle, or it could do it again. It's really the luck of the draw. As for capture card, I have a intergrated firewire on my Dell 650 workstation.

I don't know what it is. I've searched every forum known to man and can't find anyone with the same problem.

In the future try blacking out, or stripping your new mini dv, then rewinding it before you use it.

John

<<<-- Originally posted by John DeLuca : In the future try blacking out, or stripping your new mini dv, then rewinding it before you use it.

John -->>>

John I would buy into that as being teh cause of my situation however one of the advantages of having a JVC 30u Mini-DV deck is that I can stripe all my tapes before I use them and not wear out the heads on my cameras doing it.

In my case all my tapes are in sync, something happened in the transfer from my deck to the PC that is shifting my audio off by about 11 frames.

Any other ideas? It's happened a couple of times before so a fix would be really helpful!

Miguel

Ken

Sorry, I've only just seen your original post. Could I suggest that you abandon Premiere for capture and use Scenalyzer instead. I've used this for several years and it has never let me down. It's a great little capture programme. You can review it on www.scenalyzer.com.

You can get it downloaded on the web but, if I remember correctly, it does have a a red bar that comes up every now and again on the image in review (but not on the captured file). You can live with this, but I liked the programme so much I paid the small fee of £16 ($29) and received a registration number by return email that cleared this.

Incidentally, when I recently switched to Premiere Pro I bought a book by Jeff Sengstack as a reference (and I can recommend this book too) and he prefers Scenalyzer to the capture facility in Pro.

Thought this may help.

Regards.

Tony

Scenealyzer for capture? I've used it for splitting but I didn't know that it will capture. Is this exclusive to the paid copy?

I run Scenealyzer all the time for what it implies I'd be curious to know more about what you're doing with it.

Hi Miguel

I was first attracted to Scenalyzer as means to capture using a simple Firewire card having had an abysmal experience with Pinnacle DV200 and have never regretted it since. It specialises in capturing even with the free version.

Scenalyzer has full camera control and analyses scenes in real time. BUT .... (there's always a but!) I forgot to mention that I am still in the dark ages of avi files and you may be capturing in MPEG. Scenalyzer does not do this - it only captures in Type 1 and Type 2 avi files. I have never had a problem with this except when writing to DVD - then they need converting and this can literally take hours!

I also use it to output back to tape (DV) if I need to.

Regards.

Tony

Tony,

THanks for the tip, I capture from my JVC dual mini-dv / vhs via firewire and a canopus card. I capture in avi not mpeg and the canopus format is viewable to both premier via the plug in and scenealyzer with no issue.

I've not have many issues where there was a loss of sync however it did happen during this project. In the past I was able to re-capture the tape and there was no issue, however this time I found it faster to shift the audio about 11 frames forward to catch up, worked the project and all was well.

In the future I'll give scenealyzer a try for full capture, I have a program that I can run to convert the avi to canopus avi format for work in premier with canopus.

THanks again,
Miguel

Ken
I run into the same thing with Premiere Pro capture and my GL2 if the tape is stopped. Like you said I start the tape (usually from the capture app.) and then hit record. I have not encountered any problems with doing it that way. You dont need to stripe your tapes first as long as you dont need the first few frames of each time coded section. I assume the capture utility is very sensitive to time code breaks by design. If you capture from a running tape and still get those messages make sure you are using a high quality cable. There is nothing wrong with the capture program, its just picky about getting a clean signal with good timecode.

Hi Guys,
I am a Premiere Pro user as well, and I happen to own a GL2 too. I ran into problems with capturing in Premiere Pro using my GL2 as well. However, I think most of my problems were fixed when I upgraded to Premiere Pro 1.5. With this upgrade, Adobe seems to have added a few nice features as well as fixed most of the bugs (your problem being one of them). The upgrade is only $99, so that's not too bad. I personally think this should have been a free update because Premiere Pro 1 was clearly a mess-up. But hey, $99 fixes the problems so whatever.

Good luck!

Capturing GL2 footage to Adobe Premiere pro
 

I have my GL2 set up with the firewire port and I'm trying to capture footage and it only works for about two seconds and then tells me it can't find the time code and the capture stops. Is there something I need to do within the GL2 to get this to work, am I not recording properly? HAs anyone else ever had this problem? Are there special drivers for the GL2 for Premiere? I'm pretty stumped here. Any help would be great. Thanks. (And thanks to all for all the help with all the threads over the past six months!)

Gaps In Time Code
 

Hi Brian, this sounds very much like time code gaps, is the tape you are trying to capture from one long recording or have you stopped then removed the tape and later on used it from the point you finished from? If so when you put the tape back in the camera it is important to find the last bit of time code before you start recording, if not you will get a break in the code and the camera will start a new thread of code.

And so when you try to capture from the tape the capture device will read the end of the time code then stop.

You don't need any special software of drivers to capture firewire from the Canon camera.

Hope this helps.

Regards, Cliff Elliott

Just another reason to "ALWAYS" stripe time-code on your tapes! pop a new tape in the deck, keep the lens cover on and record 1 full hour of black on the tape to apply the time code, many of these problems go away when you do this. I use my JVC Mini-DV / VHS deck for this to save the wear and tear on my GL's.

Brian, another option that you might try is Scenalyzer Live, I think that it will capture without issue. I use it over the capture in Premier Pro as it will break scenes on timecode changes and create seperate files for each scene. The capture is flawless "knock on wood" and in several formats such as Microsoft DV, Canopus DV etc.

Enjoy
Miguel