Hardware help for PPro 2.0? at DVinfo.net

Bruce S. Yarock · April 14th, 2006, 04:26 PM

We've been using Premiere 6.5 for several years, and recently went up to PPro 2.0. We're also starting to do some hdv editing. Oyr current PC is also being use for soembusiness applications, and we've experienced some crashes and conflicts.I'm planning to put together a pc that will be only for editing.
Here's a list of what I plan to use. The one thing I'm not sure about is the video card.Our current pc has an ATI Radeon 9200, and usually works well.But i'd also like to have RGB component out (unless there's another way) so that we could hook up to an hd tv or monitor.

Componnets-
1-Aesus dual core mother board. P4 P800.
2-Intel Prescott chip 3.4 ghz
3- 2 gigs of samsung memory
4- a couple of good drives 9one with a sleeve bay for switching).
5- Video card? ( we also need dual monitor, and possibly s- video and rgb out).
Any help or reccomendations will be appreciated.
Bruce Yarock

Adam Grunseth · April 14th, 2006, 06:32 PM

I am just using a regular cheapo ATI card in mine, unfortunately I don't know exactly which one, I'm awayfrom my edit station right now, but it has a vga and dvi output I run dual computer monitors out of. I then use an excelerated Firewire card from canopus that offers realtime previewing from Premier. This way I use three monitors all together, two computer monitors for editing with my monitor windows and timeline in my left monitor, then in my right monitor I have my bin, effects, and sound tools. Then I have a third broadcast crt video monitor that I can preview the full rez video straight off of the timeline on (but that is what I use the canopus card for).

Matthew Wilson · April 14th, 2006, 08:47 PM

Bruce,
Check out the NVidia 7800GT or 7800GTX cards. They have dual DVI outs if your using flat panels and they give you component out as well for HD. Plus, some plugins like Magic Bullet and AE itself can use them for acclerated rendering of effects - If you look around you can get some good deals on the 7800GT. THe ATI 850XT would be a decent choice as well but not as fast in rendering and I don't think it has dual DVI.

Steven Gotz · April 14th, 2006, 09:59 PM

The Nvidia Quadro FX540 has two heads, and can export out to COmponent outputs. The Matrox Parhelia APVe has three heads, one of which has Component outputs.

Bruce S. Yarock · April 15th, 2006, 02:58 AM

Adam-
Thanks for the info. That sounds like wht I'm looking for.

Matthew and Steve-I'll check on those cards( Adobee also reccomends them). What would be the pros or cons between one of those and Adams solution?
Thanks
Bruce Yarock

Bruce S. Yarock · April 15th, 2006, 03:11 AM

Matthew-
I checked on the nvidia, and it mentions 2 dvi outputs, but nothing about comonent outs.Any other info?
Bruce Yarock

Bruce S. Yarock · April 15th, 2006, 03:22 AM

Adam-
When you get a chance, could you give me the model info on both the ATI and the Canopus?
Thanks
Bruce Yarock

Steven Gotz · April 15th, 2006, 06:46 AM

The Canopus DVStorm and other such cards don't handle HDV output. If you want HDV, you go with one of the cards designed for that purpose.

Matthew Wilson · April 15th, 2006, 10:57 AM

Bruce,
The cards generally have a breakout connector that provides S-video and component. Here's a review of the XFX 7800GT that shows what I'm talking about. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1848534,00.asp

Adam Grunseth · April 15th, 2006, 03:44 PM

My graphics card is an ultra cheapo card built by Saphire that uses the ATI Radeon X550 chipset. It didn't cost much at all, but it gets the job done. The canopus card I use is the ACEDVio Advantage card. As far as HDV editing, I work soley in SD so I can't help you there. I won't be making the switch to HDV until Blueray or HD-DVD comes out.

Bruce S. Yarock · April 17th, 2006, 07:43 AM

Thank you all for the info. It looks likme either the Nvidia quadro 540, or the 7800 gtx. I'm still trying to figure out the difference, and exactly which output cables each has.
Bruce Yarock

Jad Meouchy · April 18th, 2006, 07:20 PM

The 7800 is a gamer card. Quadro is for graphics workstations. This will make a significant difference in acceleration, so definitely go with the Quadro

Samsung memory is decent, but I'd recommend Corsair for quality.

Bruce S. Yarock · April 18th, 2006, 07:34 PM

Thanks, jad. I almost bought a 7800 on ebay, but deceided to wait. The Quadro is also reccomended by Adobe, and comes with a breakout box.
I'll check out the other memory.
Bruce yarock

April 14th, 2006, 04:26 PM	#1
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Hardware help for PPro 2.0? We've been using Premiere 6.5 for several years, and recently went up to PPro 2.0. We're also starting to do some hdv editing. Oyr current PC is also being use for soembusiness applications, and we've experienced some crashes and conflicts.I'm planning to put together a pc that will be only for editing. Here's a list of what I plan to use. The one thing I'm not sure about is the video card.Our current pc has an ATI Radeon 9200, and usually works well.But i'd also like to have RGB component out (unless there's another way) so that we could hook up to an hd tv or monitor. Componnets- 1-Aesus dual core mother board. P4 P800. 2-Intel Prescott chip 3.4 ghz 3- 2 gigs of samsung memory 4- a couple of good drives 9one with a sleeve bay for switching). 5- Video card? ( we also need dual monitor, and possibly s- video and rgb out). Any help or reccomendations will be appreciated. Bruce Yarock

April 14th, 2006, 08:47 PM	#3
Matthew Wilson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 259	Bruce, Check out the NVidia 7800GT or 7800GTX cards. They have dual DVI outs if your using flat panels and they give you component out as well for HD. Plus, some plugins like Magic Bullet and AE itself can use them for acclerated rendering of effects - If you look around you can get some good deals on the 7800GT. THe ATI 850XT would be a decent choice as well but not as fast in rendering and I don't think it has dual DVI. __________________ MW

April 14th, 2006, 09:59 PM	#4
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	The Nvidia Quadro FX540 has two heads, and can export out to COmponent outputs. The Matrox Parhelia APVe has three heads, one of which has Component outputs. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

April 15th, 2006, 06:46 AM	#8
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	The Canopus DVStorm and other such cards don't handle HDV output. If you want HDV, you go with one of the cards designed for that purpose. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

April 15th, 2006, 10:57 AM	#9
Matthew Wilson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 259	Bruce, The cards generally have a breakout connector that provides S-video and component. Here's a review of the XFX 7800GT that shows what I'm talking about. http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1848534,00.asp __________________ MW

April 14th, 2006, 06:32 PM	#2
Adam Grunseth Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 393	I am just using a regular cheapo ATI card in mine, unfortunately I don't know exactly which one, I'm awayfrom my edit station right now, but it has a vga and dvi output I run dual computer monitors out of. I then use an excelerated Firewire card from canopus that offers realtime previewing from Premier. This way I use three monitors all together, two computer monitors for editing with my monitor windows and timeline in my left monitor, then in my right monitor I have my bin, effects, and sound tools. Then I have a third broadcast crt video monitor that I can preview the full rez video straight off of the timeline on (but that is what I use the canopus card for).

April 15th, 2006, 02:58 AM	#5
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Adam- Thanks for the info. That sounds like wht I'm looking for. Matthew and Steve-I'll check on those cards( Adobee also reccomends them). What would be the pros or cons between one of those and Adams solution? Thanks Bruce Yarock

April 15th, 2006, 03:11 AM	#6
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Matthew- I checked on the nvidia, and it mentions 2 dvi outputs, but nothing about comonent outs.Any other info? Bruce Yarock

April 15th, 2006, 03:22 AM	#7
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Adam- When you get a chance, could you give me the model info on both the ATI and the Canopus? Thanks Bruce Yarock

April 15th, 2006, 03:44 PM	#10
Adam Grunseth Major Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eugene Oregon Posts: 393	My graphics card is an ultra cheapo card built by Saphire that uses the ATI Radeon X550 chipset. It didn't cost much at all, but it gets the job done. The canopus card I use is the ACEDVio Advantage card. As far as HDV editing, I work soley in SD so I can't help you there. I won't be making the switch to HDV until Blueray or HD-DVD comes out.

April 17th, 2006, 07:43 AM	#11
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Thank you all for the info. It looks likme either the Nvidia quadro 540, or the 7800 gtx. I'm still trying to figure out the difference, and exactly which output cables each has. Bruce Yarock

April 18th, 2006, 07:20 PM	#12
Jad Meouchy Major Player Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 663	The 7800 is a gamer card. Quadro is for graphics workstations. This will make a significant difference in acceleration, so definitely go with the Quadro Samsung memory is decent, but I'd recommend Corsair for quality.

April 18th, 2006, 07:34 PM	#13
Bruce S. Yarock Trustee Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pembroke Pines, Fl. Posts: 1,842	Thanks, jad. I almost bought a 7800 on ebay, but deceided to wait. The Quadro is also reccomended by Adobe, and comes with a breakout box. I'll check out the other memory. Bruce yarock