24f support in Premiere Pro cs3? at DVinfo.net

Marty Hudzik · July 28th, 2007, 06:28 PM

Since Adobe had released and update to Premiere Pro 2.0 adding support for 24f Canon modes I guess I just assumed that they would have this built into Cs3....but I do not see it as an option. Anyone?

I generally use Cineform but on some projects I like to edit in Native HDV and 24f support is a must. Can I use the preset for PPro 2.0? Or do I create a new one?

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Thanks

Marty Hudzik · July 28th, 2007, 09:43 PM

upon checking further I cannot even create a custom preset. HDV 1080i seems to be locked at either 29.97 or 25fps. Can't even get a 24 or 23.97 option.

Bummer.

Carlos Rodriguez · July 29th, 2007, 01:22 AM

I've got the same issue with 720p24 footage from my hd110 in cs3. I figured this preset would have been included in cs3. I'm wondering if the preset plugin for prohd presets for ppro 2.0 will work with cs3.

What's going on Adobe?

Carlos Rodriguez · July 29th, 2007, 01:39 AM

OK I tested the old presets for ppro 2.0 in cs3 and cs3 recognizes them when I create a new project. use this link to download the presets for your canon hdv cam.

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...atform=Windows

Carlos Rodriguez · July 29th, 2007, 01:43 AM

just for info I'm having audio synch issues in my timeline. there's a good maybe 5 second delay.

Brian Spatz · July 30th, 2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos Rodriguez

just for info I'm having audio synch issues in my timeline. there's a good maybe 5 second delay.

Would you recommend purchasing Premiere Pro 2.0 (as upposed to CS3) and wait to upgrade until this is all sorted out?

Carlos Rodriguez · July 31st, 2007, 03:02 PM

I've figured out a decent solution that works.

I take my 24p hdv video into a 30p timeline. I unlink audio and video. slow video down to 80% and leave audio alone. It looks just like 24p should. after all my edits are done, I export as a 24p video and it looks just like normal.

note. if you have a talking head on the picture, be sure to drop your entire clip on the timeline before doing any edits or adjustments. it will save you a re-aligning headache.

lets hope adobe throws in some help pretty soon.

other option is stick with the working 2.0

Brian Spatz · August 1st, 2007, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlos Rodriguez

lets hope adobe throws in some help pretty soon.

other option is stick with the working 2.0

And 2.0 supports 24f on the MAC?

Carlos Rodriguez · August 3rd, 2007, 03:28 PM

as far as I know, PPro CS3 is the only product that works on Apple OS

Floris van Eck · August 4th, 2007, 09:29 AM

When you can, just get Cineform. I really like it. Although I think Adobe should include Canon 24F support. Especially since they had it in CS2, and now dropped it in CS3. That's one thing I really hate about Adobe... not customer-orientated. They just do as they like without caring about their customers. Same with Avid. They have become colossi that forget to listen to their customers.

Sony Vegas is a program that I like much better in that regard. But I have a love/hate relationship with the interface. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. As Avid, Apple and Adobe all have a similar interface... I prefer to use one of those. It's really hard to use Vegas if other people in a project are working on Avid/Adobe/Apple. Switching between the other three is somewhat less difficult.

Anyway, Adobe should solve this. Totally unacceptable.

Kyle Brady · August 4th, 2007, 10:00 AM

What a bummer! I was all ready to get PP3 and was hoping for great things. I really like the interoperability with other programs in the suite. But incompatibility with 24F is a deal breaker. I hope they fix it. I can't believe they wouldn't support it.

Carlos Rodriguez · August 4th, 2007, 11:56 AM

I agree, need 24p/f support? go with cineform.

Greg Rothschild · August 8th, 2007, 08:39 AM

I called customer support about this issue yesterday. I was told that they are indeed working on it- they will eventually issue an update with 24F support. That's the good news. The bad news is there was no date for the release of the update. She said that her best guess was 3 months.

Carlos Rodriguez · August 8th, 2007, 08:17 PM

that's lame. How could they not have this function included in this release, but have it included in their previous? Oh well, for now I'll have to go with my workaround. It works pretty well I suppose.

Carlos Rodriguez · August 8th, 2007, 08:18 PM

btw, thanks Greg, I was getting ready to call, but found myself somewhat impatient.

July 28th, 2007, 06:28 PM	#1
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	24f support in Premiere Pro cs3? Since Adobe had released and update to Premiere Pro 2.0 adding support for 24f Canon modes I guess I just assumed that they would have this built into Cs3....but I do not see it as an option. Anyone? I generally use Cineform but on some projects I like to edit in Native HDV and 24f support is a must. Can I use the preset for PPro 2.0? Or do I create a new one? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Thanks Last edited by Marty Hudzik; July 28th, 2007 at 09:07 PM.

July 31st, 2007, 03:02 PM	#7
Carlos Rodriguez Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 206	solution I've figured out a decent solution that works. I take my 24p hdv video into a 30p timeline. I unlink audio and video. slow video down to 80% and leave audio alone. It looks just like 24p should. after all my edits are done, I export as a 24p video and it looks just like normal. note. if you have a talking head on the picture, be sure to drop your entire clip on the timeline before doing any edits or adjustments. it will save you a re-aligning headache. lets hope adobe throws in some help pretty soon. other option is stick with the working 2.0

August 8th, 2007, 08:39 AM	#13
Greg Rothschild Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 120	I called customer support about this issue yesterday. I was told that they are indeed working on it- they will eventually issue an update with 24F support. That's the good news. The bad news is there was no date for the release of the update. She said that her best guess was 3 months. __________________ Greg Rothschild Photography http://www.gregrothschild.com

July 28th, 2007, 09:43 PM	#2
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	upon checking further I cannot even create a custom preset. HDV 1080i seems to be locked at either 29.97 or 25fps. Can't even get a 24 or 23.97 option. Bummer.

July 29th, 2007, 01:22 AM	#3
Carlos Rodriguez Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 206	I've got the same issue with 720p24 footage from my hd110 in cs3. I figured this preset would have been included in cs3. I'm wondering if the preset plugin for prohd presets for ppro 2.0 will work with cs3. What's going on Adobe?

July 29th, 2007, 01:39 AM	#4
Carlos Rodriguez Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 206	OK I tested the old presets for ppro 2.0 in cs3 and cs3 recognizes them when I create a new project. use this link to download the presets for your canon hdv cam. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...atform=Windows

July 29th, 2007, 01:43 AM	#5
Carlos Rodriguez Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 206	just for info I'm having audio synch issues in my timeline. there's a good maybe 5 second delay.

August 3rd, 2007, 03:28 PM	#9
Carlos Rodriguez Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 206	as far as I know, PPro CS3 is the only product that works on Apple OS

August 4th, 2007, 09:29 AM	#10
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	When you can, just get Cineform. I really like it. Although I think Adobe should include Canon 24F support. Especially since they had it in CS2, and now dropped it in CS3. That's one thing I really hate about Adobe... not customer-orientated. They just do as they like without caring about their customers. Same with Avid. They have become colossi that forget to listen to their customers. Sony Vegas is a program that I like much better in that regard. But I have a love/hate relationship with the interface. Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. As Avid, Apple and Adobe all have a similar interface... I prefer to use one of those. It's really hard to use Vegas if other people in a project are working on Avid/Adobe/Apple. Switching between the other three is somewhat less difficult. Anyway, Adobe should solve this. Totally unacceptable.

August 4th, 2007, 10:00 AM	#11
Kyle Brady New Boot Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 9	What a bummer! I was all ready to get PP3 and was hoping for great things. I really like the interoperability with other programs in the suite. But incompatibility with 24F is a deal breaker. I hope they fix it. I can't believe they wouldn't support it.

August 4th, 2007, 11:56 AM	#12
Carlos Rodriguez Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 206	I agree, need 24p/f support? go with cineform.

August 8th, 2007, 08:17 PM	#14
Carlos Rodriguez Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 206	that's lame. How could they not have this function included in this release, but have it included in their previous? Oh well, for now I'll have to go with my workaround. It works pretty well I suppose.

August 8th, 2007, 08:18 PM	#15
Carlos Rodriguez Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Modesto, California Posts: 206	btw, thanks Greg, I was getting ready to call, but found myself somewhat impatient.