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February 15th, 2008, 03:27 PM | #1 |
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which portable recorder with timecode?
Looking for a portable recording solution that supports timecode for video use.
How much do I need to spend? I love the Sony PCM D50, but that doesn't support timecodes. thank you |
February 15th, 2008, 03:42 PM | #2 | |
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February 15th, 2008, 03:52 PM | #3 | |
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Yes that's a ton of money. I assume it's generally not to hard to sync up with video in post - any tips?! |
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I think I've also read something about outputting the timecode from the camera to one audio channel of the recorder... not sure how that works. |
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Problem is, most consumer and prosumer cameras don't have timecode input/output capabilties. I think you're thinking about a reverse scenario. Where the recorder has the ability to generate TC (the Sound Devices recorders previously mentioned can both read and generate/output timecode while the Tascam recorder can only read code from an external source but won't generate or output it) some people have sent code from the recorder to an audio track in the camera. I'm told, but don't have any first hand knowledge how to do it, that Avid can read the code from the audio track and generate a timeline from it so an incoming timestamped BWF audio file can align to that timeline. Since the audio track that is recorded in camera is already in sync with its video track, if the incoming audio file from the recorder is aligned to the timecode containing audio track, it will also automatically be aligned to the video track. I've also heard the FCP can do something like that as well but again I don't have any firsthand experience with it.
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Maybe also to use a separate timecode generator (Denecke SB-T?) and send that time to an audio track on the audio recorder, and to an audio track on the camera recorder. And maybe some software tool to combine the outputs meaningfully... I've always wondered why this A/V time synchronization is so expensive... the sync principles are so simple and in widespread use on so many devices... Internet sync is down to 10ms accuracy, etc. |
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(Incidentally I have a pcm d50 on order.) |
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Here is the software needed for Final Cut Pro: FCP auxTC reader http://www.videotoolshed.com/?page=products&pID=26 Wayne
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February 16th, 2008, 04:03 AM | #10 |
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But... the Cantar is such a unique and artful piece of equipment -- it makes the Deva look so utilitarian next to it... :)
Don't look up the prices... it would be like comparing a HVX200 price to that of the RED. However, the reality is you don't need the Deva or Cantar and if you don't need timecode there are a plethora of new small and affordable recorders out there. Wayne
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A slate works perfectly. Just roll sound, roll cameras, all point cams at the slate, do the slate and you are good to go.
In the edit, get all the video synced to that clap from the sound file(s) and you will be happy you saved money by buying a cheaper recorder. |
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