4:4:4 10bit single CMOS HD project

Joshua Starnes · February 16th, 2005, 08:32 PM

Schneider. The Xenon's and Cinegon's are about as good as you're going to get in a c-mount. You should be able to find a 25mm or 50mm pretty easy for between $100 and $300.

If you can't find what you want on eBay, trying looking at Igor's Camera, (www.igorcamera.com) I've gotten good deals on used lenses from there in the past, and the lenses were fine.

Obin Olson · February 17th, 2005, 12:03 AM

I feel like last of the dead in here..anyone awake and ALIVE anymore? Rob? Steve? Even Wayne?? Jason?

We are so close now it's SICK..I can FEEL victory in my bones!

the 64bit card is so FAST! 24FPS 12bit should NOT be any issue for this thing..and the Dothan CPU is FAST and cool running..

again..can someone provide some FTP space?

Kyle Edwards · February 17th, 2005, 12:15 AM

how many megs will be your upload?

Obin Olson · February 17th, 2005, 12:17 AM

I am not sure..but I will try and keep it small..stills and some video in the windows media codec

Kyle Edwards · February 17th, 2005, 12:20 AM

If you let me know exactly how much, I can probably get you a host.

Jason Rodriguez · February 17th, 2005, 01:19 AM

I'm here Obin :)

Just my throat hurst and I can't sleep :(

Like everybody else, I'm just waiting to see some more tantalizing stills :)

Dan Diaconu · February 17th, 2005, 07:53 AM

Obin,
Try them:

http://www.rapidshare.de/en/main.html

Wayne Morellini · February 17th, 2005, 10:19 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : I feel like last of the dead in here..anyone awake and ALIVE anymore? Rob? Steve? Even Wayne?? Jason? -->>>

Hey why did you put poor Jason after me ;)

You are allways going to get FTP problems because raw files are huge, and tons of people downloading will max out the account. I suggest you mirror if you can and use a lot of sample stills and a few sequences of good short shots, like you did with the 1300.

I wonder if dvinfo.net might host them, they do that already with the DOF adapters.

Ohh, and check this out, a new Micron 2MP sensor:

http://images.micron.com/images/imag...ib76_Print.png

I know it might be optimal lighting, but I think it is remarkable for a cheap phone sensor. It will be interesting what they come up with in the future in the video sensors.

Wayne

Obin Olson · February 17th, 2005, 10:49 AM

wow that is a nice cell phone image! I love CMOS..so much nicer then CCD

Chris Hurd · February 17th, 2005, 10:53 AM

I might be able to do some hosting, but it would need to be limited to one or two of the very best clips, and I would need to know the file size (the weight) of the clip in advance.

John Logan · February 17th, 2005, 12:18 PM

Again Sorry Obin , I checked the provider of the ftp account and it does not allow uploading if the domain is not .fr

But an idea :
seed a torrent !

Jason Rodriguez · February 17th, 2005, 01:48 PM

Okay Obin,

I can host for you, although I'm on a DSL line, so it's not perfect (1.5Mb/s). But I think it should be good for about a week.

ftp://windowsfs:windowsfs@68.166.68.130/Public

user: windowsfs
password: windowsfs

Just upload as you please, but again, beware that I'm not on a T1 (but I'm almost as fast)!

Also don't use the drop box.

Also by next tursday I'll be taking it offline, since I don't want my machine as a true FTP server.

Rob LaPoint · February 17th, 2005, 04:43 PM

Obin, have you done any work on a case design yet or are you strictly working on getting everything working first?

Oscar Spierenburg · February 17th, 2005, 05:28 PM

That made me think, how is your design Rob?

Obin Olson · February 17th, 2005, 08:15 PM

no case design yet..taht will be the easy part of this project!

I think we found the problem with our current display issues..looks like with the new cl2 64bit card you must use the newer SDK XCLIB kit..we are still using an older one in the compile that we are working with now...i will know soon if this is the issue and then i can shoot stuff with no dropped frames low cpu usage and full motion preview!..then i will psot some raw some tiff and some wmv video..

I can't tell everyone how glad I am our 64bit card is working..that problem almost put a lid on this project for good...

I am sending the crappy lens back and getting a Kern Pillard lens instead...

I would be happy to let some people try the software as soon as we get the basics really working well..you would need to buy a SI 3300RGB and a Epix CL2 card to use things..or you could get a 1920HD ALtasnse from SI! but that will cost a bit more

February 17th, 2005, 10:53 AM	#2470
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	I might be able to do some hosting, but it would need to be limited to one or two of the very best clips, and I would need to know the file size (the weight) of the clip in advance. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 17th, 2005, 04:43 PM	#2473
Rob LaPoint Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Pavilion, USA Posts: 64	Obin, have you done any work on a case design yet or are you strictly working on getting everything working first? __________________ Whatever works

February 16th, 2005, 08:32 PM	#2461
Joshua Starnes Major Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 356	Schneider. The Xenon's and Cinegon's are about as good as you're going to get in a c-mount. You should be able to find a 25mm or 50mm pretty easy for between $100 and $300. If you can't find what you want on eBay, trying looking at Igor's Camera, (www.igorcamera.com) I've gotten good deals on used lenses from there in the past, and the lenses were fine.

February 17th, 2005, 12:03 AM	#2462
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	I feel like last of the dead in here..anyone awake and ALIVE anymore? Rob? Steve? Even Wayne?? Jason? We are so close now it's SICK..I can FEEL victory in my bones! the 64bit card is so FAST! 24FPS 12bit should NOT be any issue for this thing..and the Dothan CPU is FAST and cool running.. again..can someone provide some FTP space?

February 17th, 2005, 12:15 AM	#2463
Kyle Edwards Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 274	how many megs will be your upload?

February 17th, 2005, 12:17 AM	#2464
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	I am not sure..but I will try and keep it small..stills and some video in the windows media codec

February 17th, 2005, 12:20 AM	#2465
Kyle Edwards Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: LI, NY Posts: 274	If you let me know exactly how much, I can probably get you a host.

February 17th, 2005, 01:19 AM	#2466
Jason Rodriguez Trustee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 1,095	I'm here Obin :) Just my throat hurst and I can't sleep :( Like everybody else, I'm just waiting to see some more tantalizing stills :)

February 17th, 2005, 07:53 AM	#2467
Dan Diaconu Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 804	Obin, Try them: http://www.rapidshare.de/en/main.html

February 17th, 2005, 10:19 AM	#2468
Wayne Morellini Inner Circle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 2,762	<<<-- Originally posted by Obin Olson : I feel like last of the dead in here..anyone awake and ALIVE anymore? Rob? Steve? Even Wayne?? Jason? -->>> Hey why did you put poor Jason after me ;) You are allways going to get FTP problems because raw files are huge, and tons of people downloading will max out the account. I suggest you mirror if you can and use a lot of sample stills and a few sequences of good short shots, like you did with the 1300. I wonder if dvinfo.net might host them, they do that already with the DOF adapters. Ohh, and check this out, a new Micron 2MP sensor: http://images.micron.com/images/imag...ib76_Print.png I know it might be optimal lighting, but I think it is remarkable for a cheap phone sensor. It will be interesting what they come up with in the future in the video sensors. Wayne

February 17th, 2005, 10:49 AM	#2469
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	wow that is a nice cell phone image! I love CMOS..so much nicer then CCD

February 17th, 2005, 12:18 PM	#2471
John Logan Tourist Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: france Posts: 2	Again Sorry Obin , I checked the provider of the ftp account and it does not allow uploading if the domain is not .fr But an idea : seed a torrent !

February 17th, 2005, 01:48 PM	#2472
Jason Rodriguez Trustee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 1,095	Okay Obin, I can host for you, although I'm on a DSL line, so it's not perfect (1.5Mb/s). But I think it should be good for about a week. ftp://windowsfs:windowsfs@68.166.68.130/Public user: windowsfs password: windowsfs Just upload as you please, but again, beware that I'm not on a T1 (but I'm almost as fast)! Also don't use the drop box. Also by next tursday I'll be taking it offline, since I don't want my machine as a true FTP server.

February 17th, 2005, 05:28 PM	#2474
Oscar Spierenburg Major Player Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: (The Netherlands - Belgium) Posts: 735	That made me think, how is your design Rob?

February 17th, 2005, 08:15 PM	#2475
Obin Olson Trustee Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Wilmington NC Posts: 1,414	no case design yet..taht will be the easy part of this project! I think we found the problem with our current display issues..looks like with the new cl2 64bit card you must use the newer SDK XCLIB kit..we are still using an older one in the compile that we are working with now...i will know soon if this is the issue and then i can shoot stuff with no dropped frames low cpu usage and full motion preview!..then i will psot some raw some tiff and some wmv video.. I can't tell everyone how glad I am our 64bit card is working..that problem almost put a lid on this project for good... I am sending the crappy lens back and getting a Kern Pillard lens instead... I would be happy to let some people try the software as soon as we get the basics really working well..you would need to buy a SI 3300RGB and a Epix CL2 card to use things..or you could get a 1920HD ALtasnse from SI! but that will cost a bit more