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Will Hanlon October 31st, 2005 08:17 PM

How much does the SG35 weigh (sorry if this question has been asked before)? The cost is $240 US?

Gabriel Chiefetz October 31st, 2005 11:44 PM

I agree that having the battery pack attached to the camera would allow for handheld shooting, and this would be ideal. This feature would make the unit much more attractive to me.

Thanks for asking!

Gabriel

Michael Maier November 1st, 2005 03:34 AM

As I understood, the price is 199 pounds or about 350 US dollars.

Robert Kirkpatrick November 1st, 2005 09:12 AM

I know I'm being ridiculously impatient here, but any word yet on the FX1 footage? :)

Wayne Kinney November 1st, 2005 09:30 AM

Thanks for your patients guys,

The FX-1 shoot had been canceled due to bad weather among other things.The guy needs to take a 2 and a half hour drive to get here, so we are aiming for next weekend when the trip will be more fruitful. This is kind of a one off chance for me to test with the FX-1, so really want to run full tests outside.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Eniola Akintoye November 1st, 2005 11:31 AM

Wayne,
A lot of modifications, lots and lots of add ons has been said and I believe done on this SG35mm Adapter.

I am sure we will have to read all the threads on this whole board to get an insight on what to expect from this piece of equipment and since you are the one producing it, I am sure you are writing everybody's request and what modifications and add ons you have completed, etc.

So, could you please provide a fully updated list of everything on the SG35 adapter. E.g, Different SG35mm Adapter packages with prices:


S35mm Adapter with ????????? options
Achromat Lens
15mm Rod
Face Cap
Bag
Cost is $???

S35mm Adapter without ????????? options
15mm Rod
Cost is $???

You know, if you can please do this so that we can know which package to save for. Just like the Micro35 Indie Bundle,
The Digital Cinematographer's Bundle and the The micro35 Cinema Lens Adapter package.

Wayne Kinney November 1st, 2005 11:54 AM

Hello,
I have been waiting to till i get the FX1 tested to announce the release of the SG35 with a list of prices. Below are the features:
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A real spinning glass element (not plastic) for maximum quality. The glass has also been treated for minimal light loss.

A 2 element condenser system to give a bright and completely eliminated hotspot/vignetting image, even at F16.

Adjustable ground glass spinning speed for different shooting situations. Set it a minimum for longer battery life. Adjust to spin faster when stopping down the SLR aperture or setting a faster shutter speed.

Includes and achromatic close up lens to aid in the camcorder focusing.

Includes 15mm rods support system, adjustable for different camcorders.
------


Basic SG35 package:
1x SG35 unit plus 15mm rod support system £199 plus P&P

1x Optional Quick Release sliding plate for mounting camcorder £50 (not needed)


Production time from payment received to unit shipped is 2 - 3 weeks.

Thanks for your interest,
Wayne.

Eniola Akintoye November 1st, 2005 12:34 PM

What about the Achromat lens and what is the price in $$$.
Besides, I thought you stated that you are giving discounts or has the deadline passed? or was it for the first 5 units, not sure anymore.

Wayne Kinney November 1st, 2005 01:18 PM

The achromat is included in the £199 price.

Unfortunitly, the first 5 units have already been sold, even though its not officially released. So the price will be £199 (about $350) plus P&P.

Regards,
Wayne.

Wayne Kinney November 2nd, 2005 05:59 AM

Strange, it says last post by gary stone, but nothing there?

Wayne.

Wayne Kinney November 2nd, 2005 06:00 AM

Strange, it says last post by gary stone, but nothing there?

Wayne.

Wayne Kinney November 2nd, 2005 06:00 AM

is there something wrong with the forum this morning? It says last post by gary stone, yet nothing there?

Wayne

Eniola Akintoye November 2nd, 2005 07:33 AM

Hmmm, not sure if there's anything wrong with the thread, well how can someone pay for the product?
I don't use paypal because I have an issue with them, but what other online secure form of payment do you have?

I will like to order for one but I will have to talk to you over the phone or email so that I can communicate with you the specific accesories I need my adapter to have. E.g power supply, xl2 specification, etc.

Eniola Akintoye November 2nd, 2005 07:33 AM

Hmmm, not sure if there's anything wrong with the thread, well how can someone pay for the product?
I don't use paypal because I have an issue with them, but what other online secure form of payment do you have?

I will like to order for one but I will have to talk to you over the phone or email so that I can communicate with you the specific accesories I need my adapter to have. E.g power supply, xl2 specification, etc.

Eniola Akintoye November 2nd, 2005 07:33 AM

Hmmm, not sure if there's anything wrong with the thread, well how can someone pay for the product?
I don't use paypal because I have an issue with them, but what other online secure form of payment do you have?

I will like to order for one but I will have to talk to you over the phone or email so that I can communicate with you the specific accesories I need my adapter to have. E.g power supply, xl2 specification, etc.

Wayne Kinney November 2nd, 2005 08:02 AM

Eniola

please email me using the link from my name on the left, so we can discuse futher.

Regards
Wayne

Wayne Kinney November 2nd, 2005 04:23 PM

Hello,

Please email me via the link from my name to the right.

Thanks,
Wayne.

Wayne Kinney November 3rd, 2005 07:16 AM

Is the forum up and running again?

Wayne.

Gary Stone November 3rd, 2005 12:18 PM

construction...
 
hello all...

what are the pieces holding the rods constructed out of? is that wood or have i gone nutty?

gary

Wayne Kinney November 3rd, 2005 02:28 PM

constructed from acetal plastic (very though plastic).

Thanks,
Wayne.

Eniola Akintoye November 3rd, 2005 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney
Eniola

please email me using the link from my name on the left, so we can discuse futher.

Regards
Wayne




I have been clicking your name but nothing seems to happen (got an error messsage) but o well....

I am even thinking of coming to England for X-mas Holiday but I should have gotten the adapter, tested it and if I have any complains, then I should be able to do that by then, but hopefully, everything goes on fine.

Also, I do not want a situation whereby I get to have mine and then, more new stuffs are added/changed. You know what I mean, I want to make sure I have the best and best of all the equipment that you gat basicly.

Is there a price one can pay for free upgrades? That way, we, your very first customers can enjoy the fact that we supported you work and effort in making ours and your life much easier.

By the way, do you think your 15mm Rod can be used with the Micro35 M2 Adapter?

Wayne Kinney November 3rd, 2005 02:54 PM

Eniola,
my email is waynekinney@hotmail.com

If you can make it to the UK then all the better. Concerning updated versions of the adapter, the design will stay the same for some time.

The 15mm rods are the standard 60mm from centre to centre, so in theory should fit the M2.

Thanks,
Wayne

Wayne Kinney November 22nd, 2005 05:29 PM

SG35 - New test footage uploaded
 
Hello,
I just shot some test footage with the SG35 unit. All shots are with my 1 CCD cheapo panasonic camcorder.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...sg35clip02.htm

Settings were as follows:

Cam:
Shutter speed: 1/50th sec

Aperture: F2.0 - no gain.

----------------

SG35:
Ground Glass Speed - Set to slowest speed throughout.

----------------

SLR lens settings:

Aperture: F1.4 fully open

50mm Nikon Nikkor S

Im very happy with the results concidering it's from a cheap 1 CCD panny.

The real tests will be with the DVX100 which i hope to get at the end of the week, my customers HD100 tests which should be here thursday/friday and the z1 tests at the end of the month.

Please let me know what you think.

Quyen Le November 22nd, 2005 05:33 PM

Nice Wayne.

Quyen

Yasser Kassana November 23rd, 2005 05:33 AM

You know for a one chip camcorder - that's great. I can't wait til i test my Z1!!!

Wayne Kinney November 24th, 2005 06:21 PM

Thanks Yas,
Yas and myself will be meeting on the 3rd Dec to test out the Sony z1 (like FX-1) with SG35.

Wayne Kinney December 1st, 2005 01:13 PM

SG35 - DVX100 - First Test Footage and Pictures
 
Hello,

I carried out a test shoot with the DVX100 and SG35 today. A big thank you to Stephen Pipe for making time to test the SG35 with his DVX100. We put together a quick sequence indoors, lit by a single 350w tungsten. December weather in the UK rendered outside shooting a no go.

Here is a clip, 26MB Quicktime 7 (please update to latest quicktime version to play) h.264 codec:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k...G35_dvx100.htm

And below are some pictures of the setup:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/DSCI0197a.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/DSCI0199a.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/DSCI0200a.jpg

There are a few changes i want to make to the SG35 before offering it to dvx100 users, which im working on now.

Any comments would be great.

Yasser Kassana December 1st, 2005 01:33 PM

That was gooooood shiiit man. no seriously very clean footage. I'm coming on saturday man...

Justin Tran December 1st, 2005 09:36 PM

man that setup is looks rather big, how is it for portability/handheld stuff? DLing the footage now....

was that a dvx100 or 100a?

Wayne Kinney December 2nd, 2005 05:40 AM

Hello, thanks for your comments.

Yes, that matte box really added to the overall length.

It was DVX100a.

Will be testing with the z1 tomorrow.

Declan Smith December 3rd, 2005 06:07 PM

That was excellent Wayne. What lens did you have hooked up to the DVX100 ?

Also, what matte box did you use ? Interested in getting one for the XL2.

Wayne Kinney December 4th, 2005 05:12 AM

Declan,
We used a Nikon Nikkor S 50mm F1.4 (great lens).

It was not my matte box, but i believe it was a Crossiel matte box.

Thanks,
Wayne

Wayne Kinney December 4th, 2005 01:52 PM

SG35 - Z1/FX-1 - First Test Footage and Pictures
 
Hello,
We tested the SG35 with the Sony z1 (fx-1) yesterday. We shot along Brighton sea front just after sunset to test the SG35's low light performance, which we are pleased about. Below is a short clip we put together:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/SG35_z1.htm

And a Picture of the z1 and SG35 (sorry, its a little dark):

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.kinney/z1_sg35.jpg

We used a Nikon 50mm F1.8 lens.

Any comments would be great!

Anthony Bristol December 4th, 2005 02:34 PM

Hi Wayne, nice video, did you use any gain to get your subject (Yasser?) visible? I notice the bottom left and right of the image has small some non GG material showing. Did you have any problems getting the GG to fill the Z1's 16:9 frame?

Also, could you explain how you exported your clip? My avi's are 1440 x 1080 and and look fine in PP1.51 but when I export (h.264) the aspect ratio is off, obviously due to the horizontal res of 1440 not being 1920. When I change the settings it just puts black bars on the sides, not filling the frame. Got me stumped :\

Wayne Kinney December 4th, 2005 02:55 PM

Hello Anthony, thanks for your comments.

No gain was used on the z1, it was set to F2.0 and the SLR to F1.8. That is indeed Yasser Kassana from this board.

You have a keen eye for detail. That was in fact the edge of the glass disk. The disk in the test unit was slightly smaller then the 95mm diameter of the units that ship. The glass is a few months old now.

Regarding the aspect problem your having, what i do is export the clip out from premiere to after effects, set after effects settings as 16:9 with square pixel aspect (1:1), and interpret the clip as DV widescreen. After affects will then convert the 2 different aspects properly.

Anthony Bristol December 4th, 2005 04:02 PM

Taking into consideration how dark it is down in the South these days that's very impressive light loss (or little I should say) :) . Perhaps a "Smoking Kills" disclaimer at the beginning of the footage would be approprate ;-)

Thanks for the tip re encoding i'll be giving it a try now.

Yasser Kassana December 5th, 2005 04:18 AM

Yeah there was some more footage, it was raining. The majority of the footage was shot in 50i hence you can see some trails, it was raining we had an umbrella covering the camera, so i'm assuming some of the footage might have been unusable. JUst wondering - we shot some great footage in your house Wayne - that was really really good. Any chance of having a part 2?

Wayne Kinney December 5th, 2005 10:31 AM

Here is another low light test we shot indoor.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wayne.k..._z1_candle.htm

Robert Kirkpatrick December 5th, 2005 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne Kinney
Here is another low light test we shot indoor.

Was the only light from the candle? If so, that's damn impressive.

Does the Z1 (and by extension, the FX1) line up easily with the current SG35 bracket and setup?

Wayne Kinney December 5th, 2005 03:49 PM

Robert,
There was a small lamp to one side of Yas, after the candle.

The SG35 lines up nicely with the z1, since its fully adjustable.


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