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John Gaspain
March 4th, 2004, 04:18 AM
<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : It looked great and had a nice pace to it. I did feel the group
scenes near the end looked a bit "stiff" and "acted" instead of
like they where just hanging out. -->>>

Thats exactly what I thought, Well said.

John Gaspain
March 4th, 2004, 04:20 AM
did you ask the PBS techs?

Neboysha Nenadich
March 4th, 2004, 04:36 AM
hmmh...
thanx for watching it and for your comments...
I aprreciate that.
:)

Ken Tanaka
March 4th, 2004, 12:14 PM
John,
Actually, there was little time available to make such inquiries. I ultimately shot the piece at 60i with my DVX100A, opting for the most standard of modes. In this case, the advantages of progressive shooting would have been nil, since the end product would be two 30 sec clips of two theatrical productions.

Peter John Ross
March 4th, 2004, 12:20 PM
Oxymorons
http://www.outofourheads.com/media/Oxymoron.mov

4 meg

This is a quick video that teaches us all something about grammar with a muppet who was once a crack dealer on Sesame Street.


From OUT OF OUR HEADS improv troupe in Columbus, Ohio -> starring George Caleodis, veteran of the Second City and many a Sonnyboo short.

For more info on OUT OF OUR HEADS and several more shorts - www.outofourheads.com

Haasim Mahanaim
March 4th, 2004, 02:44 PM
I've noticed a lot of film and TV students are quite taken by the score Philip Glass' score because I have heard his music in various student films.

Your trailer lags a bit in the beginning and by the end I'm still unclear about the issue the film is supposed to explore, but the footage looks well shot, especially considering it hasn't been colour corrected.

The title shot reminded me of those nature documentaries commisioned by the Canadian government during the 1970's, but it's effective and reflect's a mature sensibility instead of trying to be modern and 'kewl'.

Brett Erskine
March 4th, 2004, 03:45 PM
Thought I would share some aerial videography I did with the DVX100.

There are two short demo videos available at the link below. One was shot in Gorema which is a ancient cave city in central Turkey. The other video was mostly shot over the French Alps.

Let me know what you think. I would love a critique so I can progress.

http://www.cinematographerreels.com/demoreels.htm

And for thoughs interested I work as a freelance cinematographer. My company is called Premiere Visions. We offer cine/videography, editing and DVD mastering services for anything from indepedent films to travel videos. For more information visit www.CinematographerReels.com.

Brett Erskine
Director of Photography
Premiere Visions
1761 W. La Palma Ave., Suite 302
Anaheim, CA 92801
www.CinematographerReels.com
BErskine@CinematographerReels.com
(714)329-1520

Rob Lohman
March 5th, 2004, 07:10 AM
That was quite funny. Heh. Thanks. I thought the lighting could've
been better though!

Peter John Ross
March 5th, 2004, 11:28 PM
I didn't even work on it. I never noticed lighting at all because I was so into the joke.

Jonathan Pike
March 6th, 2004, 07:44 PM
Well done trailer, makes me interested to see the whole thing. Well shot, too.

I agree I'm not quite sure what it's all about, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. The trailer seems to spark enough tension and interest to draw people in...then again, an investor may want to know the exact issue at hand.

Bryan Mitchell
March 6th, 2004, 11:29 PM
[site down]

Shot at 2 angles, performed to 2 songs. Edited them together to a new 3rd song.

Let me know what you think. I often have doubts about my work.

James Nyfeler
March 7th, 2004, 01:44 PM
Bryan, I don't consider myself a pro, rather an intense hobbiest, but I have my opinions.

I felt the clip needed better synchronization with the music, and the camera movement seemed to bother me for some reason. I think I would have preferred to have mostly fixed camera sequences rather than pan -- letting the fountains do the work. I also think that you could shoot the exact show from 2 different angles, showing a specific sequence back-to-back, but from different angles (I know that you used two cameras, but I didn't notice this technique). Also, I think you used slow-mo at least once (maybe more), but I think more slow-mo placed at the right time to the right music it could be quite effective. Depending on the music, you could do almost all slow mo if you wanted to.... just play around with it.

I liked the venue (makes me want to get back to Vegas!). Overall, it was pleasing to watch. Good work.

Bryan Mitchell
March 7th, 2004, 04:31 PM
Actually, I only had 1 camera. I had to wait another 30 minutes for the next show from the next angle to a new song. Which Is why to put them together, it had to be a new song. No slo-mo, but I have thought about adding it to make it timed to the music better. There is some slight movement on some of the shots I'm not sure about either, but the two major pans in the movie I thought played well.

Thanks for your reponse. I'm going to reedit it today.

John Gaspain
March 8th, 2004, 04:05 AM
well done trailer,

I just hope its not a Liberal propaganda movie, Its kinda hard to tell where you are going with it.

The clip lags a bit.

gas

Haasim Mahanaim
March 8th, 2004, 08:40 AM
<<<-- Originally posted by John Gaspain :
I just hope its not a Liberal propaganda movie

::rollseyes::

Chris Shepard
March 8th, 2004, 10:54 PM
Check it out here, its the last link on the bottom

http://borealskischool.com/videos.htm

Right now it's only in Xvid format but by the end of the week we will have it in Quicktime.

Alex Taylor
March 9th, 2004, 01:39 AM
Do you mean DivX?

Lathe Austin
March 9th, 2004, 02:03 AM
<<<-- Originally posted by Alex Taylor : Do you mean DivX? -->>>

I may be wrong but I think that Xvid is another type of encoder.

Spencer Houck
March 9th, 2004, 09:32 AM
XviD is a pretty popular DivX related codec. Cleverly...DivX backwards.

I'm not really into skating/snowboarding video stuffs but it was pretty cool to watch. The title graphics seem a little hard to read though, possibly a larger font with a stroke around it to make the white stand out against all that snow.

-Spence

Chris Shepard
March 10th, 2004, 03:17 PM
yep xvid is just another dvix format.

John Gaspain
March 10th, 2004, 03:38 PM
looks good!

A larger font would be good, and maybe turn up the saturation in some shots. Good riders thats for sure. Do you have a Wide angle or fisheye lens?

gas

Chris Shepard
March 10th, 2004, 04:57 PM
Semi-fisheye (0.33x) on one camera (GL-1) and a Wide 0.44 on a canon optura 200mc.

Rafal Krolik
March 11th, 2004, 09:36 AM
I was recently given photos and some "poor" video footage by the manager of Cincere, an upcoming artist ( more info at http://www.simplycincere.com ). Here is the link to the video that I created from the materials given to me: www.sevillemedia.com/cincere/
Any advice or opinion will be deeply appreciated.
(I appologize if I mess up trying to make the above link clickable )

Victor Muh
March 11th, 2004, 10:00 PM
Here's a tow-in surfing sequence I edited for the 2004 Movie Night of Extreme Sports in Germany. It features Garrett McNamara surfing one of the world's largest and best know waves.

Let me know what y'all think.

I'm still in L.A. and would love to work on some projects out here, too. (hint, hint)

Go here: http://advaloreminternational.com (I put the video on my website's frontpage.)

More surfing videos are on the way!

Adrian Douglas
March 11th, 2004, 11:32 PM
Pretty sweet Victor, that barrel about three-quaters of the way through is SICK!!!. It's really hard to get a feel of how awesome Jaws is on video ay, it's something you just have to exerience.

Jason Brooks
March 12th, 2004, 10:06 AM
WOW! That got my heart racing. Good choice of music.

Randy Stewart
March 13th, 2004, 01:43 PM
Victor,
Excellent footage of Jaws. Looks like much of your footage was from a helicopter or on the water. Is that true? You got some great shots especially of the guys gettin' tubed. They are fearless. I'm working on some footage we just shot a couple of weeks ago at Pipeline. Will post it on our site at: http://www.cr-home-videos.com/ when done. In fact, there's a short JAWS show on our site now of some 60 footers from year before last. Thanks for the show.
Aloha,
Randy

Rob Lohman
March 14th, 2004, 05:57 AM
I've edited your posts to make the links click-able. What you need
to do is this:

[ url ]link you want to make clickable[ /url ]

But remove the spaces I put in above.

Rob Lohman
March 14th, 2004, 06:15 AM
I think it looked okay given the state of the original material. I
did find it moved a bit slow and was "annoyed" by seeing the
same photos over and over again. One section where the same
picture I saw earlier was moving in so slowly I lost interest.
But that's just a personal viewpoint ofcourse. What might not
work for me might work great for the fans or other people.

Rafal Krolik
March 14th, 2004, 08:33 AM
Thanks Rob. Yeah, the limited ammount of material sort of left me struggling to find a way to fill up the entire length of the song.
Must get better.

Randy Stewart
March 14th, 2004, 01:42 PM
Rafal,
Really liked the vid and agree with Rob's comments. One other thing that stuck out for me was the intro sound and shake didn't match the rest of the vid in feel/style. I guess that's just the intro used for your video production but you may consider striking the sound portion and using the music from the vid with the visual as a musical transition or lead in for the audience into the feel of the video. I really like the creativity of the vid and use of the material you have. You may try to use less of the same picture of the subject but when you do use it, let it glide across the screen slowly while the background is several fast moving cuts of his performances and fans reactions (especially the fans reactions). Making the vid move is the best way to keep attention when you have little to work with. Again, really like the vid. Keep'em coming.
Aloha,
Randy

Rafal Krolik
March 14th, 2004, 02:08 PM
Thanks a lot Randy, Yeah, the intro has to stay so I will have to do a better job of leading into the actual feature. You mention using some footage in the background. I originally started something to that extent but Cincere's manager said that created too much repetition of the video footage and we settled on what you saw. Once again, the HUGE limiting factor was the limited ammount of "good enough" resources to work with. On the side note, todays local paper announced a feature in the upcoming Friday paper about Cincere plus last I heard he's been in talks with Virgin Records.

Off topic but I noticed that you're from the "new" city of Kapolei. I lived in Hawaii for almost six years and my wife was born and raised there. Don't ask how I talked her into moving to Wisconsin but she curses me daily and misses the million members of her family still on the island.

Thanks again for your suggestions.

Rafal

Randy Stewart
March 14th, 2004, 08:09 PM
Rafal,
Sorry to hear that you are missing Hawaii. It's one of those awesome gorgeous days here today. You'll have to come visit soon. Take care.
Aloha,
Randy

Randy Stewart
March 15th, 2004, 01:02 AM
Victor,
As promised, just posted a video of Pipeline shot on 19 Feb 04. Waves were smaller in the morning but got bigger (some 20's) later in the early afternoon. My brother (amateur) shot this using a Sony digital 8 camera so it's not the best footage. Threw some tunes and a couple of titles on it. Here's my site: http://www.cr-home-videos.com/ . Go to sample videos and click on the title.
Enjoy.
Aloha,
Randy

Steve D. Taylor
March 16th, 2004, 02:24 PM
http://www.olypen.com/sdtaylor/completed.html

(Click "The Dance")

I don't know much about video compression, so the quality for web is a bit rough. Feedback very welcome. Thanks for looking.

Steve.

Federico Dib
March 16th, 2004, 08:06 PM
Hi,
This is my last fiction work...
Letīs see If I can get some feedback, before making the final Cut.

WMV version... Try increasing the brightness about 12 to 15.. donīt know why it looks so dark....

http://www.def3ct.com/federico/videos/dream3.wmv


Quiktime... It seems to be ok here... but havenīt tested it yet on other Computers.. so if it looks too dark, try the same as above.

http://www.def3ct.com/federico/videos/dream3.mov

Alex Taylor
March 17th, 2004, 01:53 AM
Overall your editing is good. There's one part that you could vastly improve, however. (Spoiler alert) When the killer catches up to him and puts the knife to his kneck, all the tension has been lost for two reasons: firstly, you already introduced the alarm clock sound, so we know it's a dream; secondly, the dissolve between the knife slit and the watch gives away the cut (the knife cut) too much.

What I suggest is don't introduce the alarm clock sound. Instead, wait right up until the killer starts cutting his neck, right before you would see blood. Then, cut the music and cut right to the watch with the alarm sound. IMO this would improve it a lot; right now we hear the alarm clock sound so we're just waiting for him to wake up, and the tension is lost.

Clark Kline
March 17th, 2004, 02:00 AM
Hi again everyone.

We just posted our new teaser for heads or tails, dubbed "teaser c". Shot entirely on Panasonic DVX100 in standard mode.

I want to thank everyone on the board for their help and answering questions. This place has really helped out.

Visit www.foolmartyr.com for the new teaser.

Ben Gurvich
March 17th, 2004, 06:46 AM
Hi all,

Was just playing around in AE with this little idea trying to get a nice composite. tell us what you think

got to www.benzenworlds.com and the "works in progress section"

qt = 11mb wmv = 1mb,

Cheers
Ben Gurvich

Rob Lohman
March 17th, 2004, 08:43 AM
I'm not exactly sure what the movie is about, but if I think it is
what you composited then it looked good. The sound is king
though. Turning the volume up (not too loud!!) is definitely a
good thing for this movie <g>

Rob Lohman
March 17th, 2004, 09:03 AM
Interesting Clark! You had some great shots and composition
in there. I was a tad distracted by all the different looks though.
Also I thought it was a tad to long and most of the "text" passed
me by. But it looks very interesting!

Nice job!

Rob Lohman
March 17th, 2004, 10:13 AM
This is a difficult short to give your opinion about. I really liked
some sequences but felt others were moving to slowly for my
taste. Also the story was a bit hard to follow for me.

One warning: I assume you haven't gotten the rights to use
those (famous) people and there voices. That might be a bit
dangerous to do!

I also thought that the music ended to abruptly when we
switched to the TV. I felt I was yanked out of my watching
experience.

Steve D. Taylor
March 17th, 2004, 10:50 AM
Rob, thanks for the comments.

Regarding the pace, I've been heavily influenced by the works of Jon Jost, Eric Rohmer, John Cassavetes, and the like, which would likely have affected the pace of my stuff. Jost felt the piece was too obviously spelled out in meaning, so I've actually tried to slow future projects down and allow for more ambiguity in meaning. I'm working on a feature at the moment that will likely be even slower and more challenging to understand on the suface than this short. I've tried to make the allusions to the state of our country, values, and violence subltle (more so than in The Dance, as many have said I was a bit heavy handed...that I didn't give the audience the chance to figure it out for themselves) in my next project.

I agree with you on the abrupt music mixing...I need to get better at that.


Regarding the use of the Oprah show, I sent a copy to them hoping for a responce (positive or negative), but never heard back. I suspect they wouldn't bother, but I hoped they might have some reaction. Given her past free speech battles with the beef industry, I doubt she would want the publicity, but who knows. It was certainly an intentional risk.

Thanks again for watching,

Steve.

Rob Lohman
March 17th, 2004, 01:31 PM
Well I did have some thoughts on the story. I'm not sure if that
was the way you intented it <g> I don't mind a movie where
you need to think for yourself. A challange is much appreciated.
I just wasn't too sure about this one.

Adam Lawrence
March 17th, 2004, 03:38 PM
Just wanted to get some crtique on a little spot we did for an awards show. I used an XL1 and a desktop halogen lamp with paper plate diffuser. :)

everything is live action aside from the games that were composited onto the arcade screens. All done in around 13 hours straight. Needless to say there wasnt enough time to fidget with the good stuff but tried my best.

I dont shoot live action very often so would love a few pointers for next time.

Thanks in advace

http://client.eatdrink.net/merica/addys/2004/intro.html

BTW....it is a Quicktime @ 19mg

Rich Lee
March 17th, 2004, 04:02 PM
Dude! those little kids that would come into the arcades and would just bang on the buttons when playing me in street fighter or mortal kombat, i hated them! i was a good palyer too, but somehow those little guys would occasionaly kick my butt! just from bangin on the buttons...not sure if u had the same experiences.

anyway, Not bad for such little time invested. the compositing isnt to shabby either, it looks like blown out video, good job! love the old school video game soundtrack, maybe its not old school...at first reminded me of legend of zelda, but now maybe its like final fantasy or something...

anyway, i dig it.

George Ellis
March 18th, 2004, 06:34 AM
One of the regular crew (Allen - Video777) in the Liquid Edition forum was kind enough to host part of a compilation I made of this year's band performances. I still do not like the editing on some of the transitions, but I finally had to move on to finish the project so they could have it before Christmas.

The challenge is that this is not 1 show with multiple cameras. This is multiple shows with one camera, a Sony consumer 520. To make it more interesting, no two shows are alike. They were always tweaking the show, and under direction, the timing is never the same. Hence, I could not pick on audio track and sync to it. The end is just an add-on of "remember when" we started the season and did not have all the show, changed this part, or did not have our new flags? :) In the beginning, the strange note comes from one of the students in the stands with a horn. I was annoyed when it happened, but we had some fun with it.

Be bandwidth kind and Right-click, Save As to download the video.

10 minutes - WMV in VHS res. 29MB.

http://www.video777.com/contributions.htm#gellis

It is the Band Compilation. The band is the Collins Hill Screaming Eagle Marching Band of Suwanee, GA.

Rob Lohman
March 18th, 2004, 08:14 AM
I loved the "older" man in this, good acting. I'm not to sure on
what the movie was actually telling us though....

Clark Kline
March 18th, 2004, 11:18 AM
<<<-- Originally posted by Rob Lohman : Interesting Clark! You had some great shots and composition
in there. I was a tad distracted by all the different looks though.
Also I thought it was a tad to long and most of the "text" passed
me by. But it looks very interesting!

Nice job! -->>>

Thanks! We originally had a shorter teaser (about 1:50) but our composer delivered us the music piece at 2:30 so I recut it to build to his piece.

By different looks do you mean the color corrected scenes or just in general?

Federico Dib
March 18th, 2004, 12:26 PM
Hi,
Alex thanx for the comments... Iīm taking it in consideration for the final Cut.

But I would like to have some more feedback.
Anyone else?

Iīm a tough guy, I can take it like a man.. Come on.. Bring it to me!