Canon & DV Expo East at DVinfo.net

Mike Rinkunas · July 6th, 2005, 12:07 AM

ok,

with little more then a week left til DV Expo East, any new words/rumblings/hints/rumours from the canon camp on any products to be revealed at the show? - HD GL3 likely, XL3 wishful thinking based on other treads on this board.

I know this is generally the show where they start introducing new items.
~Mike

Jed Williamson · July 6th, 2005, 07:32 PM

Here is my best guess:

Canon will annouce a new Digital Rebel (SLR style but a fixed lens) with HD video mode 1080 16x9 30p. However it will require you to also purchase a (canon) firestore device to use with it. Priced together around $1,500.

They will move 1 million units by the end of 2006.

Sign me up for 2 of them.

Mike Rinkunas · July 6th, 2005, 08:36 PM

wow, sign me up for 2 as well!!

wait, but how will it sound???? will it have XLR Jacks with phantom power?

that would of been a good april fools joke :-)

~Mike

Jed Williamson · July 6th, 2005, 10:05 PM

It's not that much of a leap from the S2 which is under $500. It takes 640x480 30p & has amazing quality for a still cam.

Canon could easily output 1440x1080 files at 24/25/30fps to a firestore device via firewire. It's just a matter of if they want to or not.

Now the sound will probably be crappy. But really good production sound hardly ever comes directly from a camcorder, always from a secondary dedicated recording device.

I'm probably off by a year so look forward to this product at NAB or DVexpo 2006 :)

Radek Svoboda · July 7th, 2005, 04:57 AM

You can't sample that large sensor at such high rate, only portion of. That is why 6 MP sensor provides only 640x480 pixels at 30p.

Radek

Jed Williamson · July 7th, 2005, 08:04 AM

Why not?

Are you saying some super highly paid engineers over at canon can't do it?

Radek Svoboda · July 7th, 2005, 11:41 AM

Unfortunately not, so far only Sony engineers able provide CMOS for video cameras, Sony CCD's used in various brands have highest resolution at 30p. No company is advanced in sensor technology as Sony.

Radek

Jed Williamson · August 24th, 2005, 10:51 PM

Now that we have the first still camera to record XGA video 15fps at 1024x768

Canon S80 for $500-600
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...12074&pageno=5

It's not much of a leap for them to build something with the specs I had mentioned by next year. I'm excited. I know what to ask for the Holidays - A big piggy bank :)

July 6th, 2005, 12:07 AM	#1
Mike Rinkunas Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 134	Canon & DV Expo East ok, with little more then a week left til DV Expo East, any new words/rumblings/hints/rumours from the canon camp on any products to be revealed at the show? - HD GL3 likely, XL3 wishful thinking based on other treads on this board. I know this is generally the show where they start introducing new items. ~Mike

July 6th, 2005, 07:32 PM	#2
Jed Williamson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 175	Here is my best guess: Canon will annouce a new Digital Rebel (SLR style but a fixed lens) with HD video mode 1080 16x9 30p. However it will require you to also purchase a (canon) firestore device to use with it. Priced together around $1,500. They will move 1 million units by the end of 2006. Sign me up for 2 of them.

July 6th, 2005, 08:36 PM	#3
Mike Rinkunas Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Allentown, PA Posts: 134	wow, sign me up for 2 as well!! wait, but how will it sound???? will it have XLR Jacks with phantom power? that would of been a good april fools joke :-) ~Mike

July 6th, 2005, 10:05 PM	#4
Jed Williamson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 175	It's not that much of a leap from the S2 which is under $500. It takes 640x480 30p & has amazing quality for a still cam. Canon could easily output 1440x1080 files at 24/25/30fps to a firestore device via firewire. It's just a matter of if they want to or not. Now the sound will probably be crappy. But really good production sound hardly ever comes directly from a camcorder, always from a secondary dedicated recording device. I'm probably off by a year so look forward to this product at NAB or DVexpo 2006 :)

July 7th, 2005, 04:57 AM	#5
Radek Svoboda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 500	You can't sample that large sensor at such high rate, only portion of. That is why 6 MP sensor provides only 640x480 pixels at 30p. Radek

July 7th, 2005, 08:04 AM	#6
Jed Williamson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 175	Why not? Are you saying some super highly paid engineers over at canon can't do it?

July 7th, 2005, 11:41 AM	#7
Radek Svoboda Major Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Prague, Czech Republic Posts: 500	Unfortunately not, so far only Sony engineers able provide CMOS for video cameras, Sony CCD's used in various brands have highest resolution at 30p. No company is advanced in sensor technology as Sony. Radek

August 24th, 2005, 10:51 PM	#8
Jed Williamson Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 175	Now that we have the first still camera to record XGA video 15fps at 1024x768 Canon S80 for $500-600 http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/con...12074&pageno=5 It's not much of a leap for them to build something with the specs I had mentioned by next year. I'm excited. I know what to ask for the Holidays - A big piggy bank :)