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Hi Mike,
I can't explain why switching burners should effect the recording of .wav file audio. Very odd. As regards the fade method in X2, I use the following approach. There are probably other methods as well. In the Storyboard mode (not the Timeline mode) I insert a solid color in the last placeholder at the end of the movie / clip. These solid colors can be selected and inserted in the Effects Tab under the Color subtab. I place a black solid color clip into this placeholder and optionally adjust the duration of the clip to make the black screen on the file either longer or shorter. I then apply a transition called "Fade to Black" which can be found in the F/X transitions as the transition from the prior movie clip to the final solid color clip. This makes a smooth transition from your ending of the video clip to the black background. Some other NLEs make this fade process with fewer steps, and there may be a way in X2 to do it in a simpler manner. Again, I urge you to pose questions of this type on the Ulead / Corel forum since I am not a master of each of the dozen or more programs I use and each has special tricks which I may not know about. Good luck, Larry |
Thanks Larry, I will give it a shot.
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Hi Mike,
Larry has it pretty much right. I drag a "Black" from the color bin and "Fade to Black" from the Favorites in the Effects, you could use Cross Fade, too. VideoStudio is a great way to make DVDs with HD content for Bluray players, too. My best, Mike |
Thanks. Well, my trial period ran out, so I will have to wait until I purchase the Corel program to try the fade. Overall, I do like the program, but I miss some of the things that Pinnacle 12 can do, or should I say, how they do certain things. But, the final PQ is what I am after, so Pinnacle will be put on the back burner, so to speak. Christmas is coming so I will not have to wait too long.
One thing I never did figure out was how to make the titles a different color than white. Respectfully, Mike |
Hi Mike,
I played with Corel VS X2 Pro for a while tonight and could also not find a way to change title font color. I am almost positive this feature used to exist in the prior Video Studio 11.5 but I can't find it anyplace now. Maybe a quesion posted on the Corel Ulead forum would answer your question. Larry |
Thanks Larry. Yeah, I probably ought to wander over to their forum site and take a look-see. My preview period expired, so I will have to wait until Christmas before working with it anymore. Meantime, I will continue my research.
By the way, does Nero have a download for me to try their program? Mike |
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Any application can be troublesome if you don't use it often. VideoStudio is no exception. In the Title options, next to font size, is the color options. Select it for color you wish. It's worth noting that you can have more than one font and color in the same title - a cool option for such an inexpensive NLE. BTW, you can make your own custom titles, too, and add them to the titles menu for later repeated use. My best. Mike |
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Thanks Mike Gunter for finding this and helping Mike Burgess.
I see that Video Studio X2 Pro has a small icon which hides or shows the Options Control Panel, and I had mine set for "Hide". Mike Burgess may have had the same problem, since for both of us the various font options were hidden. I therefore wanted to warn Mike Burgess to be sure the icon is properly selected to reveal the Optional Control Panel. See attached. Larry |
Larry;
It's a litle early for me to butt in here with my comments on Corel's Videostudio X2 Pro, but it seems relevant in this thread. I took your advice and downloaded the trial version a week ago. Good advice Larry and I thank you. I use a 64 bit system version of Vista Home Premium on a quad core computer and it all seems to work well. I have a HF-10 also just newly acquired so I'm learning both at the same time. By and large I am quite surprised with Corel's VideoStudio X2Pro compared with Adobe 6.5 which I have been using for years. VS is much more advanced than I thought it would be, better than Adobe and has several advanced features that I think even later versions of Adobe still don't have. All for US$99.00. Very surprisingly low. So I am going to buy into Corel, really I can't go wrong. There is no device driver for the HF-10 that I can find from Corel, Canon, or Windows. I thought this would be a real problem but I find that windows immediately recognizes the HF-10 as a drive as soon as I plug in the USB from the camera and I can drill down into the camera's memory and drag n'drop any shots I choose to a new folder on my desktop almost in real time. Very fast. Then I can import into VS easily for editing. I can edit full AVCHD 1920X1080 at full resolution in Corel with few issues. Adding transitions, other effects, and titles and credits is childs play. But it slows down the system a bit, not much though. I save the final show to the same folder as I imported to, in full AVCHD 1920X1080. I can easily make SD DVD's on either + or - disks taking about 3X real time from AVCHD 1920X1080 input. With a AVCHD burner I suspect it will be just as easy. In all a good experience, so far. May I suggest to readers that going to a pen and tablet input instead of a mouse is a great speed improvement, but only with practice of course. I learnt this years ago from the kings of NLE systems the British firm Quantel, who had only pen and tablet input (with a keyboard) and never had a mouse, but then just to confuse me completely they introduced a mouse in later versions and now I'm not sure they even use a tablet any more. But the speed improvement for me was huge. In my early days of editing I was completely enamoured by Quantel, so much so that I enquired about costs, to my amazement a fellow called me, from England, to enquire if I would want them to also supply (as apparently was not un-common) a new building as part of the quote for a system. |
Hi Tom,
You can also have a menu-ed AVCHD DVD disc that plays in some Bluray players in HD with VideoStudio Pro X2. It's a remarkable bargain for the price. My best, Mike |
Tom,
Glad to hear that you like VS X2 Pro. It also amazes me just how much more capable it is compared to Adobe Premiere when handling AVCHD. The range of effects, transitions, filters, and other neat capabilities is especially impressive considering how little they charge for it. Nero and PowerDirector 7 from Cyberlink are also extremely capable, and make the bug guns like Sony Vegas, Premiere, and Final Cut look limited or bloated in many ways and vastly overpriced. My HF100 does not have internal memory, so I merely read the SD card into my Dell at 30 Mbytes/sec and directly use the .mts clips with no driver issues. It is very fast, and much better than my HDV work with other camcoorders I have here. I absolutely love this little HF100 and the workflow which takes me from shooting a clip to watching an AVCHD disk on my BluRay player in less than 10 minutes. You do not need a special burner for AVCHD disks, and can make them with the same burner you presently use for SD. All you need is a player which supports AVCHD, which many if not most BluRay players provide. Then you can watch your content in full blown HD with the same quality as it comes from your camcorder directly at 1920 by 1080p. I loved your comment about Quantel offering a building. Talk about a video editing accessory..... Larry |
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I am buying it directly from Corel. I think the Pro version for $99.00 is worth the extra cost over the standard version. VideoStudio X2 - Video Editing |
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You definitely need the Pro version to do HD work. I too bought all of my Corel and Ulead software directly from them on the web.
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Glad to help, Mike!
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Peter,
For whatever it's worth, I have never seen this problem either in the new X2 or the older 11.5 version of Video Studio Pro. I went to the Ulead support forum and found the long thread where some other users have reported the same problem. One of the posts describes the "solution" he came up with using Nero Vision as an intermediate. I downloaded his "before" sample .mts file, and cannot see any stutter effect on my machine at all using 3 different players I have here for AVCHD. It may be that some machines have hardware or software issues which show up in this way. Perhaps a marginal processor or video card. Perhaps a codec not playing properly. I realize this answer does you no good in terms of solving YOUR problem, but I would also be glad to take a look at your file if you want to post it someplace. My HF100 files all seem to edit without this problem, and I always use Smart Render, try to do cuts-only edits, and have made tons of AVCHD disks. I would definitely ask Corel for their support in fixing this, and several other people are obviously experiencing the same issue. Larry |
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Hi Peter,
Does the stutter occur in the final video or in the time line? So far, VSX2 has been just perfect for AVCHD, in some ways, surprisingly so. It's quite an inexpensive application - mine was an upgrade, even better an upgrade on sale. I use VSX2 for a multitude of common tasks - ripping DVDs, DV to DVD Wizards (for legal work), it recognizes some of the more oddball CODECs conversions that come our way, too. I highly recommend it. For the low cost, I find it a no-brainer. My best to all. Mike |
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Hi Larry Sorry I've been away from this for a while. But I made the changes you suggested and my ratios are still 0%. Any suggestions? |
Jamie,
Please create a very short (maybe 10 second) clip and either email it to me or post it on a website where I can download it. Since you camcorder is the oldest / very first AVCHD model, and uses 1440 by 1080 rather than 1920 by 1080 resolution for HD, I want to see what if any options I can find to avoid having the re-rendering penalties. Thanks, Larry |
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I privately emailed you my email address using this forum's mail system if you should choose to use this method to send me a short clip. Larry |
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Hi, Mike. The sutter occurs in the final rendered video. Oddly, I don't seem to get this stutter with VS11+ or with Pixela bundeled software. I wonder if this problem only occurs with Canon HF100 produced video. Larry, thank you for offering to take a look at my video. I will post an example soon. |
I've tried Nero Vision with Nero 8, and I am not able to edit my HF100 AVCHD and then smart render it. I am able to smart render if I don't do anything to the original clip. But if I make some cuts or trims, and try to create the HF100 file structure saved to my computer, the smart render is always at 0%. I also noticed that I can't set the video bit rate any higher than 14000 kb/s. But, in previous posts by Larry, he has recommended folks setting it to 15000 kb/s. I know that the max bit rate of the HF100 is 17000 kb/s, so I feel that I would want to set it to that. Any input is appreciated. Thanks.
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Peter,
I leave the Automatic Smart Encoding mode set to the default settings and my HF100 content is output at the same bitrate as the original. I agree that that the manual settings seem to indicate otherwise, but the resulting video and audio, as reported by 3 players I have here, all maintains the very same unmodified video and audio bitrates. I would just leave it set to the default. As regards re-rendering, it appears that merging clips, using unmodified clips, or trimming clips from either end causes no re-rendering. Removing a central region of a clip does indeed force re-rendering, as would the expected things like color changes, sharpening, titling, etc. Is your experience different? Larry |
Hi, Larry. I was doing more to the clip than you have stated. Mainly, I was cutting portions out and putting them in other areas. So, I guess this explains the re-render. Maybe this is also what's causing the blips in VSX2. If I simply trim and rearrange clips, maybe I won't get the blips/stutters. I have some test clips from VSX2 if you wouldn't mind taking a look at them. I have one clip created by Pixela that has no stutters and an almost exact replica created by VSX2 and it stutters at cuts. My email address is in my profile, so if you send me your email address, I think I can send 20mb files via my gmail account. Thanks for your help.
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Hi Pete,
I've sent you my email address. Please send me the clip(s). Gmail should be able to handle the attachment. Larry |
Hi Larry. I'm not up on all the file sharing sites, so I emailed the
two files to a new gmail account. Can you please login to that account and retrieve them? The url is: mail.google.com The id is: sharing.file919 The pw is: sharing.file There are two files. One is made with Pixela, and the other with VSX2. You can see that the Pixela file does not stutter before/after a cut and the VSX2 file does. Thanks for your help. |
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Peter,
I have downloaded the files and confirmed the glitch you reported. It is quite possible that you have VideoStudio set for non AVCHD projects and thus a transcoding is required as the file is first converted from AVCHD into the VideoStudio project format and then once again transcoded as it is being output as AVCHD. I have attached a screen shot showing you how the Project Properties need to be set, namely, the same as AVCHD from your camccorder. I can't tell you why Corel doesn't set this as a default or retain it once it has been set from one project to the next, since many people are now using AVCHD. Instead, it defaults to standard 720 by 480 DVD format. The settings may be the reason for your problem but I am not entirely sure, as I am not an expert in this program. I do not see the glitch you are experiencing on any edits I do here. More info can be found at my post#9 at thread: http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/avchd-for...tml#post945224 Let me know if I can help you further. Best, Larry |
Thanks for the advice, Larry. I tried a lot of different combinations, but was unable to fix the stutter problem. I wonder if it could be my computer. Can you give me your computer specs? I have and AMD 5400+ dual core, 7600GT video card, 2gb ram.
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Peter,
Your hardware is most certainly marginal for AVCHD playback, and many people, myself included, recommend ONLY a quadcore for smooth AVCHD playback. I had assumed, since you were apparently playing AVCHD from Canon's Pixeal, that your hardware was adequate for the task, but it may not be. I do see the "glitch" in the VSX2 file you provided, but this does not appear to be stutter. Rather, it is a flaw in the way the clips were joined, either as a result of some transcoding error, or perhaps some other bug in VSX2 which I have not personally encountered. This glitch should not be dismissed as a stutter arising from marginal hardware, and it is entirely visible on my machine, which plays AVCHD with ease. This still leaves us with no explanation as to what the problem is which you are experiencing. I ask you to do 2 things: 1. Post a copy of your original .mts file from your Canon camcorder which can be a small, short clip, which I can edit here in VSX2. This should NOT come from Canon Pixela, which adds its own processing to the clip; rather, it should come directly off your camera's SD card, from the STREAM folder in the BDMV folder in the AVCHD folder. This is raw AVCHD. Note that this forum directly supports fairly large attachments to each post, and therefore you need not use gmail as an intermediary way to send things. I believe you can attach at least a 50MB attachment here, perhaps larger. The file attachment screen tells you the actual limit for such files. 2. Strongly consider posting your specific issue regarding this "glitch" on the Corel / Ulead support forum. There are a lot of people there who know much, much more than I do about VSX2. I am very glad to try to help you, but I am NOT your best and most knowledgable resource, merely somebody trying to help somebody else out. I will, of course, continue to try to help, and will use your raw clip to see what results I get with it here. Best, Larry |
Hi, Larry. Oddly, my computer plays AVCHD fairly well through Windows Mediaplayer or PowerDVD. It's not at full frame rate, but it's close.
I have discussed this at the Corel/Ulead forum, but the consensus there is: this is a bug in VSX2 that EVERYONE is experiencing. That's why I was so surprised that you are not experiencing it. I've attached the raw MTS file from my flash card. What I did to edit it is: 1) Trim a few seconds off the beginning and end of the clip. 2) Split the clip in half. 3) Move the second half to the beginning of the project and the first half to the end. 4) Smart render. The forum is having trouble uploading the MTS file, I will try to get it to you some other way. |
Thanks for the update Peter. You can also use the gmail approach if this forum does not appear to allow you to send the clip.
The smooth playing of AVCHD on your machine is unusual. I am guessing you do not have full 1920 by 1080 resolution playback. AVCHD CAN be played on many lower power systems without problems if the frame rate is dropped, the resolution is lowered, or especially if both are true. Or perhaps your video card has full rez 1920 by 1080 HD acceleration, which some video cards provide. This allows lesser CPU capacity. Regarding the splicing glitch, I just have not seen it but now will go over to the Ulead/Corel forum to find what others have had to say. This is a very major bug making VSX2 very unusable if it is affecting a large group of people, and I really have not seen it here for whatever reason. I will wait to hear from you regarding the sample clip, but it now sounds like your camcorder video is not really the culprit. Larry |
Larry, I emailed a similar file to the account mentioned previously. It's a bit shorter than the previous file so that it can fit in Google's size limitations. Thanks again for your help.
By the way, one of the contributors to the VS forum has already notified the company of the issue, and they claim to be researching it. In doing some tests, I think I have found a fairly good solution. If I run the clip (uneditied) through Nero Vision, and smart render it, it turns the file into mt2s. Then, when I import that into VS and edit it, it appears that the blips do not occur on the edited/finished product. I am noticing a very slight degradation in quality, but maybe I can live with that. But, again, I do not understand why you are not having the same problem as me with the raw MTS files. |
Hi Peter,
I downloaded 00035.MTS and made an AVCHD with 2 duplicate clips separated by a fade. I do indeed see the same glitch / "blip" you and others report. It is very obvious. I went back to look at the videos I made with the HF100 and VSX2 Pro and found that the camera was set for 30 progressive rather than 60 interlaced. These show no blip or glitch I think you will discover that if you set your camera to record progressive frames that your problem will disappear. The video quality is superb. This is indeed a bug in the software, but one that I had not excperienced until you brought it up. I think this is a really solid workaround, but presume the Corel will ultimately fix the problem for those shooting 60i frames. Hope this helps! Best, Larry |
Great deduction, Larry! I will double check by testing it, but I'm sure you're right. So, I guess the solution to the VSX2 stutter problem (at least for straight cuts - not sure if this solves stutters before and after transitions) is:
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Peter,
Hopefully Corel will fix this nasty bug soon but the workarounds are as you state. I want to clarify, for those who may read this thread, that "stutter" is really a different issue, and not a Corel-specific one. The problem we have been discussing is a stitching / splicing error specifically occuring at the joining of two files when some transitional effect is used between them, and people on the Corel / Ulead thread call it a "blip" and I have called it a "glitch". This is a brief and isolated event due to a programming error by Corel. Stuttering is the jerky, unsmooth, delayed / interrupted playback of AVCHD arising (most often) from inadequate playback resources such as: --too slow a processor --an inadequately sized / improperly specificed playback buffer --a poorly written codec for video, audio, or both --improper muxing of the video and audio --too little RAM --bad display driver software etc., etc., etc..... Sorry for being long winded, but we are dealing with only a glitch or blip here (unless your computer is also stuttering for some reason such as the ones listed above). Best, Larry |
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I would appreciate it if you would report back here with your confirmation, after you have had a chance to go into the camer menu and change the frame rate to 30p and re-do your short experiment. Thanks, Larry |
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