7D vs T2i test video

Marty Hudzik · February 25th, 2010, 09:51 AM

Most cameras have presets for color balance....you know....indoor, outdoor, flourescent, tungsten. cloudy, dusk, etc. Recently they have been adding actual color temperature adjustments in 100k increments. This is a cool new feature that is welcomed by all of us.

So...if indeed the T2i does not have this (it appears initially not to) then it is not a major change in design philosophy, just an omission of a "newer" feature.

Chris Hurd · February 25th, 2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marty Hudzik

So what ISO settings are available?

100 to to 12,800.

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Originally Posted by Marty Hudzik

And...any chance of clarifying what the dedicated video mode on the dial means?

That's how you put the camera into video recording mode.

Marty, have you downloaded and read through the operator's manual yet? It answers these questions plus many more. There's a "sticky" post at the top of the forum index with the manual attached. The link is http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...-eos-550d.html

J.J. Kim · February 25th, 2010, 10:05 AM

Thank you, Chris, for putting two threads together for me. And big thanks for answering most of the questions.
Follow focus ring answer looks like has been answered. Yes, the one on L lens is older model (with red ring), and 28mm one has newer version.
WB setting, please go to my blog for detail at Orange Video Production
I am thinking about going out and shoot some more, but I only have 4GB SD card.
My 32GB cards are coming tomorrow (along with extra batteries), so I will def. shoot more this weekend.
Thank you!

JJ

Chris Hurd · February 25th, 2010, 10:18 AM

According to the owner's manual, you can choose a WB preset or get a manual balance using a bounce card, the old fashioned way. Unfortunately there's no way to input a specific color temperature in degrees Kelvin using 100 degree increments as there is on the 7D and other pro -level EOS cameras.

So it looks like we'll have to carry bounce cards again...

Marty Hudzik · February 25th, 2010, 10:20 AM

Chris,

thanks. I hadn't seen the manual yet so I will grab that. However, I find that often some of these little items are not apparent until you physically handle the camera which is why I was asking someone who had used the 7d and the T2i.

On the 7d you can switch to video recording mode via a dedicated switch, so you can shoot video with any of the preprogrammed shooting presets plus the 3 custom presets. On the surface it appears that isn't the case with the t2i.

I am just trying to wrap my head around real world limitations of the t2i vs. the 7d. I know the specs, I am familiar with the main differences but until someone uses it, there is no good way to know the intangible differences that appear that are not documented.

Chris Hurd · February 25th, 2010, 10:25 AM

For every HD-equipped Canon D-SLR, the actual HD recording is initiated in a different way for each camera. On the 5D Mk. II, you change a menu setting one time to enable the Set button to start recording, when in Live View mode (two steps; press the Live View button then press Set).

On the 7D, there's a physical switch to access movie mode, and a dedicated Start button.

On the 1D Mk. IV, you change a menu setting one time and then activate recording with the FEL button.

On the Rebel T2i / 550D, turn the mode dial to "movie" and press the Live View button to start recording. Funny how it's so different for each one of these cameras.

Bryan McCullough · February 25th, 2010, 10:26 AM

Well I've never gotten away from using bounce cards to set WB, so I guess I'll not miss that setting. Thanks for the great review/comparison!

J.J. Kim · February 25th, 2010, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark Ross

Wow.. great comparison video. Thanks for posting.

The only real thing that jumped out at me was the final set of comparison shots... The T2i looked much warmer (especially on the skintones) than the 7D.

I do think, however, that the T2i will be more than adequate for a lot of people.

I set the WB differently. That's not caused by different camera. I set it differently.
Why? I don't know. LOL!

JJ

Jose Ortiz · February 25th, 2010, 11:38 AM

JJ.
Thanks for sharing this video!

James Strange · February 25th, 2010, 07:59 PM

Found this while googling

Dont think its on the boards here, if it is, mods please feel free to remove

Video ISO Comparison: Canon EOS Rebel T2i vs. Canon EOS 7D | Digital Camera Review

James

Carlo Zanella · February 26th, 2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan McCullough

What do you call those large focus rings he's got on his lenses? Those look like they'd be pretty handy.

Check out this one I got from Indy System (IndiSYSTEM - Studio 4 Productions).

They snap around the lens with magnets and they help you a great deal with focusing.
It takes me 5 seconds to put them on, and when I store the camera, I take them off in a second. It's a great design. They come out in different diameter sizes, so you can use them with any camera (I also have one on my 7D rig as well and on my EX1).

Carlo Zanella
The Santa Fe TV Show

Bryan McCullough · February 26th, 2010, 12:06 PM

That looks great, but I can't find them on the site. What am I missing?

Alex Sava · February 26th, 2010, 02:01 PM

Thanks a lot for the video, J.J.

Been waiting for a video like that ever since I first heard of the T2i/550D so major props. :D

Bill Pryor · February 26th, 2010, 04:52 PM

You got ring gears but not the rest of the follow focus system?

Michael Simons · February 26th, 2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan McCullough

That looks great, but I can't find them on the site. What am I missing?

I couldn't find the rings either. Please email me with the information. Thank you.

February 25th, 2010, 10:18 AM	#19
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	According to the owner's manual, you can choose a WB preset or get a manual balance using a bounce card, the old fashioned way. Unfortunately there's no way to input a specific color temperature in degrees Kelvin using 100 degree increments as there is on the 7D and other pro -level EOS cameras. So it looks like we'll have to carry bounce cards again... __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 25th, 2010, 10:25 AM	#21
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,366 Images: 513	For every HD-equipped Canon D-SLR, the actual HD recording is initiated in a different way for each camera. On the 5D Mk. II, you change a menu setting one time to enable the Set button to start recording, when in Live View mode (two steps; press the Live View button then press Set). On the 7D, there's a physical switch to access movie mode, and a dedicated Start button. On the 1D Mk. IV, you change a menu setting one time and then activate recording with the FEL button. On the Rebel T2i / 550D, turn the mode dial to "movie" and press the Live View button to start recording. Funny how it's so different for each one of these cameras. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 25th, 2010, 07:59 PM	#25
James Strange Major Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Glasgow, Scotland, UK Posts: 309	More 7D 550D comparisons Found this while googling Dont think its on the boards here, if it is, mods please feel free to remove Video ISO Comparison: Canon EOS Rebel T2i vs. Canon EOS 7D \| Digital Camera Review James

February 25th, 2010, 09:51 AM	#16
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Most cameras have presets for color balance....you know....indoor, outdoor, flourescent, tungsten. cloudy, dusk, etc. Recently they have been adding actual color temperature adjustments in 100k increments. This is a cool new feature that is welcomed by all of us. So...if indeed the T2i does not have this (it appears initially not to) then it is not a major change in design philosophy, just an omission of a "newer" feature.

February 25th, 2010, 10:05 AM	#18
J.J. Kim Major Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Wheeling, IL Posts: 270	Thank you, Chris, for putting two threads together for me. And big thanks for answering most of the questions. Follow focus ring answer looks like has been answered. Yes, the one on L lens is older model (with red ring), and 28mm one has newer version. WB setting, please go to my blog for detail at Orange Video Production I am thinking about going out and shoot some more, but I only have 4GB SD card. My 32GB cards are coming tomorrow (along with extra batteries), so I will def. shoot more this weekend. Thank you! JJ

February 25th, 2010, 10:20 AM	#20
Marty Hudzik Trustee Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canton, Ohio Posts: 1,771	Chris, thanks. I hadn't seen the manual yet so I will grab that. However, I find that often some of these little items are not apparent until you physically handle the camera which is why I was asking someone who had used the 7d and the T2i. On the 7d you can switch to video recording mode via a dedicated switch, so you can shoot video with any of the preprogrammed shooting presets plus the 3 custom presets. On the surface it appears that isn't the case with the t2i. I am just trying to wrap my head around real world limitations of the t2i vs. the 7d. I know the specs, I am familiar with the main differences but until someone uses it, there is no good way to know the intangible differences that appear that are not documented.

February 25th, 2010, 10:26 AM	#22
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	Well I've never gotten away from using bounce cards to set WB, so I guess I'll not miss that setting. Thanks for the great review/comparison!

February 25th, 2010, 11:38 AM	#24
Jose Ortiz Major Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tampa Florida Posts: 347	JJ. Thanks for sharing this video!

February 26th, 2010, 12:06 PM	#27
Bryan McCullough Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 842	That looks great, but I can't find them on the site. What am I missing?

February 26th, 2010, 02:01 PM	#28
Alex Sava Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 37	Thanks a lot for the video, J.J. Been waiting for a video like that ever since I first heard of the T2i/550D so major props. :D

February 26th, 2010, 04:52 PM	#29
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	You got ring gears but not the rest of the follow focus system?