expensive glass vs not expensive glass(not a dumb question i swear)

Perrone Ford · August 20th, 2010, 01:03 PM

Nicely done by Bloom. At his age, I would have expected him to be more familiar with some of the older glass. Especially considering his background. But there you go.

Interesting that he noted the same issues with sharpness I did. These lenses are too sharp for what our cameras can resolve in video mode and just create problems. I can't wait to shoot some of the stuff I want to do in the next 2 months with some vintage glass. Just wish I could afford that 85mm Takumar. But it's going for nearly $400 on eBay right now. A bit too rich for me unless I start making money with it.

Liam Hall · August 20th, 2010, 02:11 PM

As I understand it Bloom's background is working for Sky News, so his experience is with ENG cameras and lenses.

Perrone Ford · August 20th, 2010, 02:33 PM

I thought he had done stills work prior to that. Perhaps I was mistaken.

Jon Braeley · August 21st, 2010, 01:32 PM

When I was a photographer (a long time back) I don't think I even owned a zoom lens. I owned around eight primes - but often used three primes and thats it - to change focal length I walked.

But now prime lenses just give me trouble. I only shoot documentaries in fairly remote places, and changing lenses is impossible - only in quiet moments shooting B-roll and setting establishing shots can I relax to use primes. You need 2 or 3 camera bodies but I cant carry too much gear.

I will be shooting the 7D as my main camera next month in China (a martial arts doc) and will take three Canon L lenses and the Tokina. All zooms. The only prime I will carry is a 50mm/1.4 - sometimes I interview in dark interiors like temples.

So the choice is zooms andit has to be L glass, for the times I am red-dust storms or rain that knocks you down!
The ideal for me would be one lens - 12-200mm F2.0 IS and weighing 12oz and that may not happen in my lifetime. This is also why Red is releasing the scarlet with a fixed 8x zoom. For people like me.

August 20th, 2010, 01:03 PM	#16
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	Nicely done by Bloom. At his age, I would have expected him to be more familiar with some of the older glass. Especially considering his background. But there you go. Interesting that he noted the same issues with sharpness I did. These lenses are too sharp for what our cameras can resolve in video mode and just create problems. I can't wait to shoot some of the stuff I want to do in the next 2 months with some vintage glass. Just wish I could afford that 85mm Takumar. But it's going for nearly $400 on eBay right now. A bit too rich for me unless I start making money with it. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

August 20th, 2010, 02:11 PM	#17
Liam Hall Major Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 969	As I understand it Bloom's background is working for Sky News, so his experience is with ENG cameras and lenses. __________________ Writer-Director-DOP www.liamhall.net

August 20th, 2010, 02:33 PM	#18
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	I thought he had done stills work prior to that. Perhaps I was mistaken. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

August 21st, 2010, 01:32 PM	#19
Jon Braeley Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 528	When I was a photographer (a long time back) I don't think I even owned a zoom lens. I owned around eight primes - but often used three primes and thats it - to change focal length I walked. But now prime lenses just give me trouble. I only shoot documentaries in fairly remote places, and changing lenses is impossible - only in quiet moments shooting B-roll and setting establishing shots can I relax to use primes. You need 2 or 3 camera bodies but I cant carry too much gear. I will be shooting the 7D as my main camera next month in China (a martial arts doc) and will take three Canon L lenses and the Tokina. All zooms. The only prime I will carry is a 50mm/1.4 - sometimes I interview in dark interiors like temples. So the choice is zooms andit has to be L glass, for the times I am red-dust storms or rain that knocks you down! The ideal for me would be one lens - 12-200mm F2.0 IS and weighing 12oz and that may not happen in my lifetime. This is also why Red is releasing the scarlet with a fixed 8x zoom. For people like me.